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As the former dean of the school for 25 years, John Smith shook the hand of more than 250,000 graduates.


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It is tempting to jump to Choice A; but then A has a subtle pitfall. There is no such job as the former Dean, for some particular number of years.
Obviously, one can be a dean for certain number of years. Then ex-dean for some number of years and then a permanently former dean lifelong; So if we have to take the time - frame along with the argument, then we have to drop the former status.
Secondly and in a way jestingly, can a former dean shake hands with 250,000 people? If he is not the incumbent dean, who will shake hands with him?
That is why E is the choice.
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daagh wrote:
It is tempting to jump to Choice A; but then A has a subtle pitfall. There is no such job as the former Dean, for some particular number of years.
Obviously, one can be a dean for certain number of years. Then ex-dean for some number of years and then a permanently former dean lifelong; So if we have to take the time - frame along with the argument, then we have to drop the former status.
Secondly and in a way jestingly, can a former dean shake hands with 250,000 people? If he is not the incumbent dean, who will shake hands with him?
That is why E is the choice.


You are assuming that we should know background knowledge, and we are not supposed to ;)
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I can see that you want to justify your choice steadfastly, but honestly, I have not assumed anything as far as I see, but only that I have explained; however if you have found some assumption in me , which I am not aware, can you kindly spell out what that assumption is ? After all, learning is eternal from whatever source it is. Isn't it? .
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I can see that you want to justify your choice steadfastly, but honestly, I have not assumed anything as far as I see, but only that I have explained; however if you have found some assumption in me , which I am not aware, can you kindly spell out what that assumption is ? After all, learning is eternal from whatever source it is. Isn't it? .


I think that E changes the meaning.
The original sentance makes it clear that the dean is no longer a dean. If we take option E, it looks like that he is still the dean.
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As the dean of the iniversity for 25 years, He shaked hands with more than 250 000 graduates.
How can you infer from this that he is no longer the dean ?
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If he is currently continuing as a dean, we don’t call him a former dean; additionally, if he is still a continuing dean, we will not use past tense and say he shook hands, but will say, he has been shaking hands; It is as simple as that.. Especially a verb, which is an action word, carries a lot of connotations with it and I can understand that use of tense can be tricky sometimes
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If he is currently continuing as a dean, we don’t call him a former dean; additionally, if he is still a continuing dean, we will not use past tense and say he shook hands, but will say, he has been shaking hands; It is as simple as that.. Especially a verb, which is an action word, carries a lot of connotations with it and I can understand that use of tense can be tricky sometimes


Thank you Ivan and Daagh for a nice explanation . OA is "E" . I went with "A" thinking that "e" changes the meaning by saying- Dean- and not a former dean .
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