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# BIG GMAT CHANGES: Select Section Order on the GMAT starting July 11

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02 Aug 2017, 08:49
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[quote="ramyanag"]Hi,

I took GMAT exam yesterday with the new select section feature in the order: Verbal, Quant, IR and AWA. I was scoring 730 - 740 in the GMAT Prep Mock tests. I was expecting something above 700. But unfortunately got 590 (Q:49,V:24). I am really disappointed with my score. Now I am planning to take again in the old order only. Not sure what was the cause of this much score dip in verbal. Because I used to do "fake tests" as mentioned by a member, GMATNinja, everyday for 20 days with verbal first and used to score anywhere between 35-38 correct answers out of 41 questions in a timed condition. I am trying to introspect the causes for my low verbal score. I am feeling I should not have taken the exam in the new order.
Did anyone take GMAT in any of the new section orders? Please share your experiences.

Wow, sorry to hear about the bad experience on the exam! Were any of those practice tests repeats, by any chance? I'm just wondering if your GMATPrep results might have been inflated by familiarity with some of the questions at all?

The only other thing I can think of is that you might have felt a little bit out of sorts at the very beginning of the testing experience. The nice thing about the old order is that you can "warm up" with the AWA and IR, and get yourself settled into the testing environment. Maybe jumping right into verbal might have made you a little bit less comfortable than usual?

Just a thought. In general, I think it's good to start with a section that you're comfortable with -- whatever that might mean for you. Quant, maybe?

Sorry again to hear about the frustrating experience!

Hi GMATNinja,

I had my exam today with the new selection order (Quant-Verbal-IR). My score today: 530 (Q37, V27, IR4). Needless to say, I was devastated.

I have been scoring consistently 730-750 (Q48-49, V41-43) in the mocks. Granted, my mock scores were a little inflated, but I cannot imagine my actual score dropping more than 200 points. I think there is something seriously wrong with the algorithm of the new selection order.

Do you think there will be any review from GMAC on these inconsistencies?

Any help would be much appreciated!

Cheers,
Aparna

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To add further, I gave my 1st exam in Apil with 2 months preparation and scored a 640 (Q44, V35). After rigorous prep of another 2 months, I was expecting a decent score of at least 700

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I gave my GMAT exam today after a gap of 15 days and scored 670 (Q45, V37, IR6). Though I am not happy with my score as I was aiming for 700+, I am at least satisfied. I took the exam in the traditional order this time. After the disastrous score of 530 that I scored a fortnight ago, I think this score is a major improvement. The traditional order is almost similar to Gmatprep mock and the questions are of similar difficulty.

In conclusion, I had a very bad experience with the Quant-Verbal-IR-Essay order. The traditional order worked better for me.

Cheers,
Aparna

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02 Aug 2017, 09:20
suryaaparna wrote:

I gave my GMAT exam today after a gap of 15 days and scored 670 (Q45, V37, IR6). Though I am not happy with my score as I was aiming for 700+, I am at least satisfied. I took the exam in the traditional order this time. After the disastrous score of 530 that I scored a fortnight ago, I think this score is a major improvement. The traditional order is almost similar to Gmatprep mock and the questions are of similar difficulty.

In conclusion, I had a very bad experience with the Quant-Verbal-IR-Essay order. The traditional order worked better for me.

Cheers,
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Do you really blame section order change for the low score?
No other major/minor change in
night routine prior to exam day?
level of excitement and nervousness before the test?
breaks routine

I am asking this because after the initial response from others "GMAT is getting harder", we are now getting the responses "GMAT didnt changed". And the latter response coming from people who scored high as well as from those who scored low.

Did you analyze your ESR from first and second GMAT? Did you see something really off about that? Was score in all your subsections consistent?

Sorry for so many questions! But people like me would like to know the answers to analyze whether to go for section order change!

Regards!
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02 Aug 2017, 09:50
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Do you really blame section order change for the low score?
No other major/minor change in
night routine prior to exam day?
level of excitement and nervousness before the test?
breaks routine

I am asking this because after the initial response from others "GMAT is getting harder", we are now getting the responses "GMAT didnt changed". And the latter response coming from people who scored high as well as from those who scored low.

Did you analyze your ESR from first and second GMAT? Did you see something really off about that? Was score in all your subsections consistent?

Sorry for so many questions! But people like me would like to know the answers to analyze whether to go for section order change!

Regards!

you should really give mock tests with different orders and see what is most comfortable for you. I chose V<Q<IR<AWA because I used to get exhausted doing verbal last even after 10 practice tests. I also didn't choose quant first because I was bit better at Quant than verbal so I decided to attack the section that I was weakest at. Other people on this forum have attempted their strongest section first to boost their confidence. The strategy you choose is highly dependent on you and how comfortable you are with different section.
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Updated on: 02 Aug 2017, 10:30
Thanks everyone who has posted the feedback after the addition of new options.
I am going to stick to the old format as I feel the Awa and IR are warm ups for me. I have tried practicing IR, unable to see an improvement, so I am not expecting to crack it. I would rather use it to warm up and get to real work once it's over. Also, I believe I won't be able to wait for the score once quant and verbal are done, old habits die hard!

Though I had thought of hitting verbal first, am going to stick to the older format. The thought of jumping into the SC ocean right at the beginning looks daunting to me now!

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02 Aug 2017, 10:30
AkshayKS21 wrote:
suryaaparna wrote:

I gave my GMAT exam today after a gap of 15 days and scored 670 (Q45, V37, IR6). Though I am not happy with my score as I was aiming for 700+, I am at least satisfied. I took the exam in the traditional order this time. After the disastrous score of 530 that I scored a fortnight ago, I think this score is a major improvement. The traditional order is almost similar to Gmatprep mock and the questions are of similar difficulty.

In conclusion, I had a very bad experience with the Quant-Verbal-IR-Essay order. The traditional order worked better for me.

Cheers,
Aparna

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Do you really blame section order change for the low score?
No other major/minor change in
night routine prior to exam day?
level of excitement and nervousness before the test?
breaks routine

I am asking this because after the initial response from others "GMAT is getting harder", we are now getting the responses "GMAT didnt changed". And the latter response coming from people who scored high as well as from those who scored low.

Did you analyze your ESR from first and second GMAT? Did you see something really off about that? Was score in all your subsections consistent?

Sorry for so many questions! But people like me would like to know the answers to analyze whether to go for section order change!

Regards!

I don't think my level of preparation was any different to that of the previous attempt. On the contrary, my morale was very low after the disastrous score. I had to work very hard to gain back my confidence.

I still think something was wrong with the algorithm immediately after go-live of the order levels. During the 2nd attempt in which I scored 530, I kept on thinking I am getting low difficulty questions, but I concentrated on the exam and didn't spare it much thought. However, the end result showed that I was indeed right to worry. It happened with both the sections, quant and verbal.

Anyway, I suggest that you give all your mocks in the order you are comfortable with. This way, you will be able to stimulate the real-time test and check how you are preforming.

Cheers.

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03 Aug 2017, 07:27
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Hi Everyone,

I gave my first attempt at GMAT today in the following order Q>V>IR>AWA and scored 720 (Q49 V39 IR7)
My GMATPrep scores are as below:

GMATPrep 1 - 710 (Q48 V39) (traditional order) Neighbours disturbed me during this test and as a result ended up not answering one question in quant
GMATPrep EP1 Exam 1 - 690 (Q47 V38) (V>Q>IR>AWA)
GMATPrep EP1 Exam 2 - 680 (Q49 V34) (Q>V>IR>AWA)
GMATPrep EP2 Exam 1 - 660 (Q44 V37) (Q>V>IR>AWA) No idea why my score tanked in this one. Maybe because I was burnt-out with over preparation.

Overall I felt that the exam today was more or less similar to the GMATPrep. Even the scores say so.
I am afraid of the AWA score as I was exhausted by then and feel that my essay was not up to the mark.

Hope this information helps.

Cheers!
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03 Aug 2017, 07:52
srk89 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I gave my first attempt at GMAT today in the following order Q>V>IR>AWA and scored 720 (Q49 V39 IR7)
My GMATPrep scores are as below:

GMATPrep 1 - 710 (Q48 V39) (traditional order) Neighbours disturbed me during this test and as a result ended up not answering one question in quant
GMATPrep EP1 Exam 1 - 690 (Q47 V38) (V>Q>IR>AWA)
GMATPrep EP1 Exam 2 - 680 (Q49 V34) (Q>V>IR>AWA)
GMATPrep EP2 Exam 1 - 660 (Q44 V37) (Q>V>IR>AWA) No idea why my score tanked in this one. Maybe because I was burnt-out with over preparation.

Overall I felt that the exam today was more or less similar to the GMATPrep. Even the scores say so.
I am afraid of the AWA score as I was exhausted by then and feel that my essay was not up to the mark.

Hope this information helps.

Cheers!

Congratulations on a high score!! :D
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07 Aug 2017, 06:04
srk89 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I gave my first attempt at GMAT today in the following order Q>V>IR>AWA and scored 720 (Q49 V39 IR7)
My GMATPrep scores are as below:

GMATPrep 1 - 710 (Q48 V39) (traditional order) Neighbours disturbed me during this test and as a result ended up not answering one question in quant
GMATPrep EP1 Exam 1 - 690 (Q47 V38) (V>Q>IR>AWA)
GMATPrep EP1 Exam 2 - 680 (Q49 V34) (Q>V>IR>AWA)
GMATPrep EP2 Exam 1 - 660 (Q44 V37) (Q>V>IR>AWA) No idea why my score tanked in this one. Maybe because I was burnt-out with over preparation.

Overall I felt that the exam today was more or less similar to the GMATPrep. Even the scores say so.
I am afraid of the AWA score as I was exhausted by then and feel that my essay was not up to the mark.

Hope this information helps.

Cheers!

As soon as you said 'neighbours disturbed me..' I immediately thought 'Must be from my country '.. Then i looked at your profile on the left and yes, you indeed are from India
heartiest Congratulations on a good score by the way.
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08 Aug 2017, 05:56
How can I put this new feature to practice? I am not sure if I should stick to the original format or start with Verbal first. If I do start with verbal first on the GMAT exam, I am anxious if that would affect my score negatively because I didn't practice with Verbal first.

Thoughts?
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How can I put this new feature to practice? I am not sure if I should stick to the original format or start with Verbal first. If I do start with verbal first on the GMAT exam, I am anxious if that would affect my score negatively because I didn't practice with Verbal first.

Thoughts?

Hi pra1785 ,

You should not change the order unless you have practiced the new order atleast 4 to 5 times.

Please note that changing the order at the last moment can actually screw everything. I would suggest BE AWARE.
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10 Aug 2017, 04:45
srk89 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I gave my first attempt at GMAT today in the following order Q>V>IR>AWA and scored 720 (Q49 V39 IR7)
My GMATPrep scores are as below:

GMATPrep 1 - 710 (Q48 V39) (traditional order) Neighbours disturbed me during this test and as a result ended up not answering one question in quant
GMATPrep EP1 Exam 1 - 690 (Q47 V38) (V>Q>IR>AWA)
GMATPrep EP1 Exam 2 - 680 (Q49 V34) (Q>V>IR>AWA)
GMATPrep EP2 Exam 1 - 660 (Q44 V37) (Q>V>IR>AWA) No idea why my score tanked in this one. Maybe because I was burnt-out with over preparation.

Overall I felt that the exam today was more or less similar to the GMATPrep. Even the scores say so.
I am afraid of the AWA score as I was exhausted by then and feel that my essay was not up to the mark.

Hope this information helps.,

Cheers!

Hi,

Does the GMAT prep software give the option to chose order? I am not sure if the software is updated..... how were you able to take gmat prep tests with that order?
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10 Aug 2017, 04:46
abhimahna wrote:
pra1785 wrote:
How can I put this new feature to practice? I am not sure if I should stick to the original format or start with Verbal first. If I do start with verbal first on the GMAT exam, I am anxious if that would affect my score negatively because I didn't practice with Verbal first.

Thoughts?

Hi pra1785 ,

You should not change the order unless you have practiced the new order atleast 4 to 5 times.

Please note that changing the order at the last moment can actually screw everything. I would suggest BE AWARE.

Hi,

Just to understand, how can it mess up everything as long as you know the stuff ? would it really matter?
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10 Aug 2017, 04:55
pra1785 wrote:
Hi,

Does the GMAT prep software give the option to chose order? I am not sure if the software is updated..... how were you able to take gmat prep tests with that order?

Hi!
Well of course the software is updated.
Open GMATPrep and the "update" option pops up. We can update the software without disturbing the existing test data.
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Took the test today 710(Q48,V40,IR8). I am happy that it crossed 700/but was aiming 750. Anyway the order I chose was Q-V-IR-Awa.
The exam felt just like GMAT prep, with some really easy ones freaking me out a bit! And I scored 48 in Quant, which isn't a good score. Thank God for verbal, it just saved me.

Awa shouldn't come back too bad! Fingers crossed.

I shall post a debrief soon.

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Took the test today 710(Q48,V40,IR8). I am happy that it crossed 700/but was aiming 750. Anyway the order I chose was Q-V-IR-Awa.
The exam felt just like GMAT prep, with some really easy ones freaking me out a bit! And I scored 48 in Quant, which isn't a good score. Thank God for verbal, it just saved me.

Awa shouldn't come back too bad! Fingers crossed.

I shall post a debrief soon.

Thanks GMaTCLUB!

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So you din't stick to "traditional" order
Congratulations! 710 is a good score
And IR 8! You were frightened of IR (as per your last post). Good one!
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pra1785 wrote:
Hi,

Does the GMAT prep software give the option to chose order? I am not sure if the software is updated..... how were you able to take gmat prep tests with that order?

Hi!
Well of course the software is updated.
Open GMATPrep and the "update" option pops up. We can update the software without disturbing the existing test data.

I did not know that! I did not get the updated option
I wasted both my test now without knowing this

Thanks for updating me though and congrats!
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spc11 wrote:
Took the test today 710(Q48,V40,IR8). I am happy that it crossed 700/but was aiming 750. Anyway the order I chose was Q-V-IR-Awa.
The exam felt just like GMAT prep, with some really easy ones freaking me out a bit! And I scored 48 in Quant, which isn't a good score. Thank God for verbal, it just saved me.

Awa shouldn't come back too bad! Fingers crossed.

I shall post a debrief soon.

Thanks GMaTCLUB!

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So you din't stick to "traditional" order
Congratulations! 710 is a good score
And IR 8! You were frightened of IR (as per your last post). Good one!

Thanks Akshay!!

The order was more of a last.minute change as I was too sleepy and didn't know if I will survive after one hour of Awa and IR! I thought mostly we practice without IR and AWA and jump to quant. So it didn't sound like a big leap, a risk I took which I definitely don't recommend without preconditioning in the practice tests!

IR looked pretty doable, I was myself surprised at the questions and thought there must be a catch...but score says there wasn't!

Thanks again!

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So I finally got around to taking the GMAT with the select section order feature--I chose Verbal, Quant, IR, AWA as the order of my sections, and I scored a 750 composite (Q50, V42, IR 8, 6 AWA).

My debrief: https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-tutor-debrief-finally-cracked-q50-q50-v42-ir8-750-composite-248190.html#p1916781

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31 Aug 2017, 19:27
The new changes will likely provide more flexibility to the candidates:)
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The new changes will likely provide more flexibility to the candidates:)
I wonder whether a year from now we'll see the GMAT introduce the option to take the exam over multiple days!
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