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Hey guys did anyone tried rescheduling?
I tried to do it online but it is asking for 50 bucks ....

Is it free only if we call them and re-schedule ?


Yes, it sounds like that from the FAQ language - you have to call and they will waive both reschedule ($50) and phone ($10) fees.
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Q: I already have a GMAT exam scheduled. Should I reschedule it to take advantage of this new feature?
A: The decision to reschedule is up to you. For those that have already done significant preparation for the GMAT and are already prepared to take the exam, you may feel comfortable proceeding with your exam as scheduled, as the original section order will be available.

If you would like to reschedule your GMAT exam to take advantage of the new Select Section Order feature, you can call GMAC Customer Service to reschedule your exam. Both your reschedule fee and phone fee ($10) will be waived if your request is received within a 7-day grace period of the announcement (request via phone must be received on or prior to June 22, 2017). Remember, you have to call in to customer service by June 22 to have the fee waived.

After the grace period, you may reschedule your GMAT exam online, at least 24 hours prior to your scheduled appointment, for the standard reschedule fee.
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Hey guys did anyone tried rescheduling?
I tried to do it online but it is asking for 50 bucks ....

Is it free only if we call them and re-schedule ?


Yes, it sounds like that from the FAQ language - you have to call and they will waive both reschedule ($50) and phone ($10) fees.



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Need your guidance here. I am a test taker from India and my GMAT is scheduled @ 9 AM ( 7 more hours to go ) India Customer service is closed and will be open at 9 AM. Will I be allowed to reschedule the exam by any chance? Please advise!!
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Hey guys did anyone tried rescheduling?
I tried to do it online but it is asking for 50 bucks ....

Is it free only if we call them and re-schedule ?


Yes, it sounds like that from the FAQ language - you have to call and they will waive both reschedule ($50) and phone ($10) fees.



BB,

Need your guidance here. I am a test taker from India and my GMAT is scheduled @ 9 AM ( 7 more hours to go ) India Customer service is closed and will be open at 9 AM. Will I be allowed to reschedule the exam by any chance? Please advise!!



I doubt it... since GMAC usually does not allow changes less than 24 hours in advance. You can always try the US phone number if you wish but I would get some sleep and not worry about this change. You can always retake July 11th or 12th.

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Within 24 hours of the scheduled test date and time: Appointment cannot be rescheduled. If you do not show up for your scheduled appointment, your account history will display the appointment as a no-show. This will not appear on your score reports when you send them to schools.
Source: http://www.mba.com/us/frequently-asked- ... tment.aspx

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Scheduled my retake for June 24, but now I have to decide if it's worth pushing back three weeks. Decisions decisions...
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Scheduled my retake for June 24, but now I have to decide if it's worth pushing back three weeks. Decisions decisions...



I don't know frankly... if you feel you can improve your score in the extra 3 weeks and you can stay alert and maintain your readiness and prep level, then sure.
I was kind of done with the GMAT prep and would not change the appointment when I was taking the test, just because I could not endure 3 more weeks of studying, refreshing, analyzing, waiting. In my case, I would say - no, don't wait. If anything, it will make the test center quite empty and quiet during the next 3 weeks until July 11th and will probably result in a better score just because of that ;-)
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Scheduled my retake for June 24, but now I have to decide if it's worth pushing back three weeks. Decisions decisions...



I don't know frankly... if you feel you can improve your score in the extra 3 weeks and you can stay alert and maintain your readiness and prep level, then sure.
I was kind of done with the GMAT prep and would not change the appointment when I was taking the test, just because I could not endure 3 more weeks of studying, refreshing, analyzing, waiting. In my case, I would say - no, don't wait. If anything, it will make the test center quite empty and quiet during the next 3 weeks until July 11th and will probably result in a better score just because of that ;-)



haha yeah, I believe I am in the latter camp as well. The push back wouldn't be to have more time to study, it would just be to capture the advantage of doing the sections that "matter" first. Luckily, I have a few days to mull this over.

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Welcome news! Thanks for sharing the details.

I have to believe that 90% of GMAT test-takers will now choose to put Verbal and Quant (either order) at the beginning of the test, since those are the only two subscores that contribute to one's 200-800 composite score. In my opinion, that's the way the GMAT should have been structured all along.

For me, Verbal/Quant/IR/Essay would be ideal, since I've found over time that the last part of the Quant section tends to impact my score less than does the last part of Verbal--in other words, the Quant algorithm is more "adaptive" than the Verbal, which requires a solid performance deep into the test for a 40+ score. The ability to complete the Verbal and Quant sections during the first 2.5 hours of the test, while I'm still sharp mentally, rather than 4 hours deep, will surely prove advantageous. Maybe now I can finally earn my perfect 800! Or maybe not. Hehe.

In some ways, this announcement has turned the GMAT from a 4-hour test to a 2.5 hour test. The exam should become much more manageable now, and I expect a lot of re-takes as a result. I also expect average composite scores to go up, though IR and AWA scores may drop concurrently.

It is also important to note that these updates to the test will make the free GMAT Prep software and Default Exam Pack much easier to use for practice (as opposed to diagnostic tests), given the large number of questions available in that question pool--around 1,500 total. Instead of having to click through the essay and all the IR questions (not adaptive, and the same 12 questions every time) at the beginning, you will soon be able to proceed straight to the Quant and Verbal, and let the adaptive nature of the test take its course, guiding you to new GMAT questions every time, albeit with significant question repetition after frequent re-takes. Keep in mind that there are only 90 questions per test, but more than 15 times that amount in the overall question pool.

For now, however, the GMATPrep software has not yet been updated. GMAC tells us that GMATPrep will be updated with this "select section order" feature by July 31st, 2017.
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Great news for the day :lol:

I have 2 questions:

1. Is there any change in other factors, such as score algorithm, score adjustment, if candidates select other section orders different from original order?

2. Even that they made the change official, for a certain time, there will be for sure score inflation since the order change is available for every candidate. In case that GMAC notices significant score inflation, would they change the order change back to the original order?
I would like to ask this question because the section order is quite important and it would effect the candidates' strategy for preparing GMAT.
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1. Is there any change in other factors, such as score algorithm, score adjustment, if candidates select other section orders different from original order?

2. Even that they made the change official, for a certain time, there will be for sure score inflation since the order change is available for every candidate. In case that GMAC notices significant score inflation, would they change the order change back to the original order?
I would like to ask this question because the section order is quite important and it would effect the candidates' strategy for preparing GMAT.


I don't have any special information from GMAC, but I can 100% guarantee that they won't adjust the scoring algorithm depending on your section order. And I'd be shocked if they ever change the order back to the way it was. That's actually why GMAC ran a test of the "select section order" privilege a few months back: they wanted to prove that it won't bias or invalidate scores in any way.

So if they're offering this privilege, they're confident that there will be no reason to remove it anytime soon. Sure, tests get redesigned from time to time, but I'd bet anything that this change is here to stay. Especially since the GMAT is competing with the GRE for market share. Both companies keep giving us new tools and toys.

And for whatever it's worth, I don't think that the score inflation will be all that large from this. I think verbal scores will go up a little bit on average, since fatigue probably only plays a role on that section, and maybe AWA and IR scores will drop a little bit. But most people are fresh enough for quant, and I'd be surprised if anything really changes there -- other than the fact that quant scores just keep rising and rising, anyway. I blame Bunuel for that! :D
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Great news for the day :lol:

I have 2 questions:

1. Is there any change in other factors, such as score algorithm, score adjustment, if candidates select other section orders different from original order?

2. Even that they made the change official, for a certain time, there will be for sure score inflation since the order change is available for every candidate. In case that GMAC notices significant score inflation, would they change the order change back to the original order?
I would like to ask this question because the section order is quite important and it would effect the candidates' strategy for preparing GMAT.


1.There might be test takers who still go with the original orders of the sections. Some people might do better if they have a warm-up before they start with sections that count - Quant and Verbal . So, the scoring algorithm should not change. It must have been that GMAC did not observe any significant score bias during the pilot project.

2.I think we all need to thank ETS and GRE :). Since many b schools have started accepting GRE scores, the GRE is becoming popular among graduates. An advantage of GRE is that if someone is unsure whether to pursue MS or MBA, he/she can take the GRE.
Thus, GMAC has come with a series of steps such as - score cancellation, Section order etc to make the GMAT more test-taker friendly.
Also, in the long run even if there is a little inflation, things will even out. The test might become a little easy for everyone.
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1. Is there any change in other factors, such as score algorithm, score adjustment, if candidates select other section orders different from original order?

2. Even that they made the change official, for a certain time, there will be for sure score inflation since the order change is available for every candidate. In case that GMAC notices significant score inflation, would they change the order change back to the original order?
I would like to ask this question because the section order is quite important and it would effect the candidates' strategy for preparing GMAT.


I don't have any special information from GMAC, but I can 100% guarantee that they won't adjust the scoring algorithm depending on your section order. And I'd be shocked if they ever change the order back to the way it was. That's actually why GMAC ran a test of the "select section order" privilege a few months back: they wanted to prove that it won't bias or invalidate scores in any way.

So if they're offering this privilege, they're confident that there will be no reason to remove it anytime soon. Sure, tests get redesigned from time to time, but I'd bet anything that this change is here to stay. Especially since the GMAT is competing with the GRE for market share. Both companies keep giving us new tools and toys.

And for whatever it's worth, I don't think that the score inflation will be all that large from this. I think verbal scores will go up a little bit on average, since fatigue probably only plays a role on that section, and maybe AWA and IR scores will drop a little bit. But most people are fresh enough for quant, and I'd be surprised if anything really changes there -- other than the fact that quant scores just keep rising and rising, anyway. I blame [b]Bunuel for that! :D[/b]
I have to agree on this one. Bunuel solutions help many people get higher quant score. :-D
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bb, GMATNinja Can we see this change coming up in GMATPrep as well?
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Q: Are there study and preparation materials available that simulate the GMAT exam in different orders?
A: The Select Section Order feature is not currently available in the full-length practice exams in the mba.com store, which includes GMAT Prep and Exam Packs 1 and 2. These products will be updated with the Select Section Order feature by July 31, 2017.

You can still download or purchase any full-length exam product via mba.com/store between now and the release of the updated versions. When the software is updated to include the Select Section Order feature, you will be eligible for a complimentary upgrade of GMAT Prep or Exam Pack.

In the meantime, you can use the Test Bank Tool in the Online Official Guide to build your own question sets by question type in your preferred order.

We recommend that if you are not comfortable with a different section order, you can take the GMAT exam in the original section order.


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nguyendinhtuong wrote:
Great news for the day :lol:

I have 2 questions:

1. Is there any change in other factors, such as score algorithm, score adjustment, if candidates select other section orders different from original order?

2. Even that they made the change official, for a certain time, there will be for sure score inflation since the order change is available for every candidate. In case that GMAC notices significant score inflation, would they change the order change back to the original order?
I would like to ask this question because the section order is quite important and it would effect the candidates' strategy for preparing GMAT.


1.There might be test takers who still go with the original orders of the sections. Some people might do better if they have a warm-up before they start with sections that count - Quant and Verbal . So, the scoring algorithm should not change. It must have been that GMAC did not observe any significant score bias during the pilot project.

2.I think we all need to thank ETS and GRE :). Since many b schools have started accepting GRE scores, the GRE is becoming popular among graduates. An advantage of GRE is that if someone is unsure whether to pursue MS or MBA, he/she can take the GRE.
Thus, GMAC has come with a series of steps such as - score cancellation, Section order etc to make the GMAT more test-taker friendly.
Also, in the long run even if there is a little inflation, things will even out. The test might become a little easy for everyone.


Another benefit of GRE is that schools are able to take in qualified applicants with less competitive scores without being concerned with getting dinged by rankings for a lower average GMAT score. Some schools are after the high GMAT scorers, esp those ranked below the Top 20, and GRE is an easy way for otherwise good applicants to sneak through a back door. Don't expect a scholarship, but you will get an admit with mediocre GRE whereas you would be a liability with a mediocre GMAT.
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The GMAT Changes in a picture.
Understand the changes in an infographic.

Selecting the order to suit your approach will be a big boost. We recommend selecting either option 2 or option 3. It will be good to get done with the longer sections first and leave the short sections for the last.

For most Indian students, selecting the Verbal section first will be a good advantage.

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My GMAT exam is on 11th July. Will I get a chance to select order?
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Yes ramyanag, you will get the option to select the order.
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Yes ramyanag, you will get the option to select the order.

As per GMAC FAQ section, they are planning to roll out Section Select feature in all the GMAT Prep products from July 31st. My exam is on July 11th. What do you suggest is the best way to know which is the better order of the sections for me?
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Guys, just to update on the method of re-scheduling :
I called GMAC regional office (for me its London office since its caters to the Middle East region) and got my date and location change within 7-8 mins. The procedure is pretty hassle-free and they will just ask you a couple of verification question and the reasons for re-scheduling...
I would suggest that we say this "Big Change" a reason to get the rescheduling done for free ...
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