Last visit was: 19 Nov 2025, 23:18 It is currently 19 Nov 2025, 23:18
Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
User avatar
TheMechanic
Joined: 19 Oct 2012
Last visit: 05 Jul 2018
Posts: 219
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 103
Location: India
Concentration: General Management, Operations
GMAT 1: 660 Q47 V35
GMAT 2: 710 Q50 V38
GPA: 3.81
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
avatar
stratecashomie
Joined: 26 Apr 2017
Last visit: 03 Apr 2019
Posts: 5
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 3
Posts: 5
Kudos: 2
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
AjiteshArun
User avatar
Major Poster
Joined: 15 Jul 2015
Last visit: 18 Nov 2025
Posts: 5,949
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 732
Location: India
GMAT Focus 1: 715 Q83 V90 DI83
GMAT 1: 780 Q50 V51
GRE 1: Q170 V169
Expert
Expert reply
GMAT Focus 1: 715 Q83 V90 DI83
GMAT 1: 780 Q50 V51
GRE 1: Q170 V169
Posts: 5,949
Kudos: 5,080
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
kimrani
Joined: 10 Dec 2014
Last visit: 20 Sep 2018
Posts: 40
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 190
Concentration: Marketing
GMAT 1: 750 Q50 V41
WE:Marketing (Manufacturing)
Products:
GMAT 1: 750 Q50 V41
Posts: 40
Kudos: 27
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Could anyone else share the experience of taking GMAT on or after July 11?
User avatar
TheMechanic
Joined: 19 Oct 2012
Last visit: 05 Jul 2018
Posts: 219
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 103
Location: India
Concentration: General Management, Operations
GMAT 1: 660 Q47 V35
GMAT 2: 710 Q50 V38
GPA: 3.81
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
AjiteshArun
GMATblock
Well, I just googled "exam was difficult after the exam pattern change 11 july gmatclub". I landed up on this post. I just appeared for the exam few hours ago and scored 640. I feel devastated. It was my repeat attempt after my first attempt of 650(v30). This time I prepared rigorously and was confident for a 700+ score. My mock (unattempted GMATPrep 5 and 6) scores were 690 and 730. Veritas and Manhattan consistently giving me 36-38. I am pretty much sure something is wrong with the new algorithm.

As few others have mentioned above that they were confident that they were doing well and scores depicted something else, the same happened with me today. The only reason I can figure out now is : The software was throwing easy questions from1-20 then after that 20-41 were medium to hard level. If you do easy questions wrong your score takes a great dip. But again, V28 ?, I still can not gulp it.

I am still not able to figure out what went wrong.

I would like to know from the experts about this situation. May be their experience can help the prospective students. Further, I think GMAT refreshes the question pack in 15 day cycle, so it seems this 15 day cycle- 11 July - 26 July - has got some tricky questions. These are all my speculations. But believe me, SOMETHING IS WRONG.

The guy who was sitting next to me also concurred, his previous attempt was 700, today he scored 660, again huge drop in verbal when I asked him what went wrong, he replied "I thought I did very well"

Anyways I won't be able to sleep tonight!!

Good luck to all those reading this post and have their exam in the coming days. Please post your reviews as I 'd like to know whether it just those who are getting low scores posting on this post or is this a real issue.

Regards,
A drop in scores can happen (and used to happen earlier as well), but the algorithm has definitely not changed. That is, the GMAT is not using different algorithms for the different section orders. Whether something is systematically wrong with the exam is (extremely) doubtful though. You'd need a better sample to take that call, as it is very likely that people who are getting positive outcomes are just not posting in this thread.

Ahh Critical reasoning 101. I second this!
avatar
gmat7m
Joined: 27 Oct 2014
Last visit: 19 Jun 2019
Posts: 153
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 29
Location: India
GMAT 1: 760 Q50 V41
GPA: 4
WE:Consulting (Consulting)
Products:
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
If it matters, I have taken two GMATPrep CATs in the last 10 days:

Exam 5 (EP2): 730 - Q48, V44. This was before the GMATPrep Software Update.
Exam 3 (EP1): 730 - Q49, V40. This was before the GMATPrep Software Update. I thought the quant questions were easier in nature and the verbal was tougher which is reflected in the score break-up change between the two tests. However, these exams rely on the Question packs so I doubt that has a bearing, but I don't think the algorithm was different post the update.

Any of you guys have your ESRs yet?
User avatar
fitzpratik
Joined: 17 Oct 2016
Last visit: 08 Mar 2021
Posts: 226
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 49
Location: India
Concentration: General Management, Healthcare
GPA: 3.05
WE:Pharmaceuticals (Healthcare/Pharmaceuticals)
Products:
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Can any gurus enlighten me?
Will the performance of a candidate in one section of GMAT have any bearing on the next section?
I mean, will my Quant performance affect my verbal score? if I attempt QV-IR-AWA?
User avatar
abhimahna
User avatar
Board of Directors
Joined: 18 Jul 2015
Last visit: 06 Jul 2024
Posts: 3,514
Own Kudos:
5,728
 [1]
Given Kudos: 346
Status:Emory Goizueta Alum
Products:
Expert
Expert reply
Posts: 3,514
Kudos: 5,728
 [1]
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
fitzpratik
Can any gurus enlighten me?
Will the performance of a candidate in one section of GMAT have any bearing on the next section?
I mean, will my Quant performance affect my verbal score? if I attempt QV-IR-AWA?

Hi fitzpratik ,

Unlike GRE, GMAT Quant and Verbal sections are independent of each other. There is no link between the two.

So, your performance on each section is independent of the other.
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Ok folks, I have got the ESR today, but I have no experience to understand it. I would request the experts to comment on this and help me understand it better.

verbal ESR:

Number of questions correct in the first set of questions: 50%
Number of questions correct in the second set of questions: 86%
Number of questions correct in the third set of questions:86%
Number of questions correct in the fourth set of questions:88%

RC %ile: 27
CR %ile: 49
SC %ile: 91

Difficulty level was at medium for 1st set then it dropped to below medium and then gained in third and again in fourth but just till back to medium level.


It seems to me game was over for me in the first 15 minute only, Silly me sitting for 4 hours after that.

MY only question is: is this usual, or can anyone see anything unusual here ??

Thanks in advance !
User avatar
GMATNinja
User avatar
GMAT Club Verbal Expert
Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Last visit: 19 Nov 2025
Posts: 7,443
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 2,060
Status: GMAT/GRE/LSAT tutors
Location: United States (CO)
GMAT 1: 780 Q51 V46
GMAT 2: 800 Q51 V51
GRE 1: Q170 V170
GRE 2: Q170 V170
Products:
Expert
Expert reply
GMAT 2: 800 Q51 V51
GRE 1: Q170 V170
GRE 2: Q170 V170
Posts: 7,443
Kudos: 69,788
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
GMATblock
Ok folks, I have got the ESR today, but I have no experience to understand it. I would request the experts to comment on this and help me understand it better.

verbal ESR:

Number of questions correct in the first set of questions: 50%
Number of questions correct in the second set of questions: 86%
Number of questions correct in the third set of questions:86%
Number of questions correct in the fourth set of questions:88%

RC %ile: 27
CR %ile: 49
SC %ile: 91

Difficulty level was at medium for 1st set then it dropped to below medium and then gained in third and again in fourth but just till back to medium level.


It seems to me game was over for me in the first 15 minute only, Silly me sitting for 4 hours after that.

MY only question is: is this usual, or can anyone see anything unusual here ??

Thanks in advance !
Yeah, you basically missed a bunch of easy-to-medium RC and CR questions right at the beginning of the section, and then it was too late to really recover from those errors. And that's the nature of the beast on an adaptive test: if you're shooting for an elite score and you miss easy (whatever "easy" might mean for you personally) questions early in the section, it's really, really hard to recover.

My hunch is that you were a little bit nervous -- or at least not completely focused yet -- at the beginning of the test, and you started misreading stuff that you don't normally misread. Maybe that would have happened to you regardless of the section order, but the good thing about the old section order is that it gives you a chance to "warm up" and get comfortable in the testing room before the questions really matter.

I'm sorry that you had such a terrible test-day experience! But the silver lining is that you clearly know what you're doing on SC, and you're almost certainly capable of much better on RC and CR, too...
avatar
pentek123456
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 21 May 2014
Last visit: 18 Nov 2019
Posts: 42
Own Kudos:
14
 [3]
Given Kudos: 4
Location: United States (MI)
Products:
Posts: 42
Kudos: 14
 [3]
3
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hi guys,

I gave my gmat today for the 3rd time and scored a 730 (Q49, V40). Last 2 times my score was 660 (Q48, V34) and 650 (Q49, V29). My section order was (verbal, Quant, IR, AWA) this time around. I did not feel that verbal was more difficult than GMAT prep. I read this thread before going into the exam and I was expecting difficult questions to come up in verbal. I was honestly scared and not looking forward to the exam but the entire section was of same difficulty as the gmat prep software. 2 days before the test I gave 2 gmat prep mock tests and got 740 (Q49, V40) and 710 (Q49, V38). After reading this thread I bet alot of people will get nervous as I did but in my opinion GMAT difficulty is same as it was before selection orders. :-D
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
GMATNinja
GMATblock
Ok folks, I have got the ESR today, but I have no experience to understand it. I would request the experts to comment on this and help me understand it better.

verbal ESR:

Number of questions correct in the first set of questions: 50%
Number of questions correct in the second set of questions: 86%
Number of questions correct in the third set of questions:86%
Number of questions correct in the fourth set of questions:88%

RC %ile: 27
CR %ile: 49
SC %ile: 91

Difficulty level was at medium for 1st set then it dropped to below medium and then gained in third and again in fourth but just till back to medium level.


It seems to me game was over for me in the first 15 minute only, Silly me sitting for 4 hours after that.

MY only question is: is this usual, or can anyone see anything unusual here ??

Thanks in advance !
Yeah, you basically missed a bunch of easy-to-medium RC and CR questions right at the beginning of the section, and then it was too late to really recover from those errors. And that's the nature of the beast on an adaptive test: if you're shooting for an elite score and you miss easy (whatever "easy" might mean for you personally) questions early in the section, it's really, really hard to recover.

My hunch is that you were a little bit nervous -- or at least not completely focused yet -- at the beginning of the test, and you started misreading stuff that you don't normally misread. Maybe that would have happened to you regardless of the section order, but the good thing about the old section order is that it gives you a chance to "warm up" and get comfortable in the testing room before the questions really matter.

I'm sorry that you had such a terrible test-day experience! But the silver lining is that you clearly know what you're doing on SC, and you're almost certainly capable of much better on RC and CR, too...


Thank you señor for your quick response on this. I'd like to ask, what would be the best strategy from here on to recover from this score (keeping in mind the ESR above). Also, what would be the ideal number of days I should hold on for my next attempt?
User avatar
AkshayKS21
Joined: 02 May 2016
Last visit: 09 Oct 2019
Posts: 60
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 207
Location: India
Concentration: Entrepreneurship
GRE 1: Q163 V154
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Products:
GRE 1: Q163 V154
Posts: 60
Kudos: 177
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
pentek123456
Hi guys,

I gave my gmat today for the 3rd time and scored a 730 (Q49, V40). Last 2 time my score was 660 (Q48, V34) and 650 (Q49, V29). My section order was (verbal, Quant, IR, AWA) this time around. I did not feel that verbal was more difficult than GMAT prep. I read this thread before going into the exam and I was expecting difficult questions to come up in verbal and I was honestly scared and not looking forward to the exam but the entire section was of same difficulty as the gmat prep software. 2 days before the test I gave 2 gmat prep mock tests and got 740 (Q49, V40) and 710 (Q49, V38). After reading this thread I bet alot of people will get nervous as I did but I can assure that in my opinion GMAT didn't become difficult. :-D

Thanks. This will help a lot of guys out here!
I guess many test takers who posted that verbal got harder needed some kind of warm up before the actual test, and a cushion of AWA and IR actually helped them.
Lets wait for few more guys to post experience similar to yours.

And its a nice score! Congratulations! :)
3 attempts to 730! Waiting for your debrief :-D
avatar
airo
Joined: 04 Jan 2016
Last visit: 23 May 2019
Posts: 38
Own Kudos:
28
 [1]
Given Kudos: 24
Location: United States
Concentration: General Management
GMAT 1: 750 Q48 V44
WE:Management Consulting (Consulting)
GMAT 1: 750 Q48 V44
Posts: 38
Kudos: 28
 [1]
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Disagreed that the test became more difficult post July 11. I think most people here are forgetting that the GMATPrep Tests have a limited quantity of 700+ level questions — if you're consistently doing well on the practice verbal questions then the difficulty of questions seems to plateau and drop back down to the 600s. That's been my experience in any case.

On the other hand, there's no scarcity of difficult questions on the actual exam. You'll never run out of 700+ level questions and thus the entire section seems more mentally-taxing than the practice exams. For this same reason, I've read supporting examples by others that GMATPrep scores tend to be slightly inflated by 10 to 30 points if you're in the top 95%ile range.

I opted for Q-V-IR-AWA order and the test seemed very similar to all the practice exams. I didn't necessarily feel drained by the time I got to IR/AWA, but rather I felt anxious to rush through those sections to get my final score. Ended up with an IR 8 & AWA 5.5 for reference.
avatar
eziamm
Joined: 18 Jul 2017
Last visit: 08 Sep 2017
Posts: 3
Own Kudos:
1
 [1]
Given Kudos: 1
Posts: 3
Kudos: 1
 [1]
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
I took the exam for the first time this weekend with section order selection and went quant to verbal to IR/AWA. Scored 770 (50/44/8) so it's definitely not the case that they weren't giving hard enough questions to achieve a high score, although I cannot compare it to past official tests.

I used almost exclusively Manhattan gmat stuff to prep, which was significantly harder on quant than the real test. Just studied hard every day for a month and honestly felt more than ready at that point. My highest practice test quant score on Mgmat was 47 but I was getting almost every official guide question right that I tried. The section guides were also very helpful for truly understanding the concepts. I think getting used to the timing of harder questions that mgmat throws at you consistently and ultimately understanding how to get many of them right paid off big time. I would not have been nearly this prepared if I focused more on OG problems.

Posted from my mobile device
User avatar
bb
User avatar
Founder
Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Last visit: 19 Nov 2025
Posts: 42,395
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 24,110
Location: United States
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
GPA: 3
Products:
Expert
Expert reply
Active GMAT Club Expert! Tag them with @ followed by their username for a faster response.
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
Posts: 42,395
Kudos: 82,125
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Wow! Impressive job! 770 and 750! Would love if airo and eziamm can post a detailed debrief in the Share GMAT Experience forum as reports post July 11th are scant. Here is a template for how to organize a debrief and what to include: https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-experie ... 99220.html
User avatar
Ramyanag
Joined: 09 Dec 2014
Last visit: 30 Nov 2017
Posts: 34
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 25
Posts: 34
Kudos: 38
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
eziamm
I took the exam for the first time this weekend with section order selection and went quant to verbal to IR/AWA. Scored 770 (50/44/8) so it's definitely not the case that they weren't giving hard enough questions to achieve a high score, although I cannot compare it to past official tests.

I used almost exclusively Manhattan gmat stuff to prep, which was significantly harder on quant than the real test. Just studied hard every day for a month and honestly felt more than ready at that point. My highest practice test quant score on Mgmat was 47 but I was getting almost every official guide question right that I tried. The section guides were also very helpful for truly understanding the concepts. I think getting used to the timing of harder questions that mgmat throws at you consistently and ultimately understanding how to get many of them right paid off big time. I would not have been nearly this prepared if I focused more on OG problems.

Posted from my mobile device

Congratulations! 770 is a really awesome score :)
How did you decide on the section order?
avatar
eziamm
Joined: 18 Jul 2017
Last visit: 08 Sep 2017
Posts: 3
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 1
Posts: 3
Kudos: 1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
ramyanag
eziamm
I took the exam for the first time this weekend with section order selection and went quant to verbal to IR/AWA. Scored 770 (50/44/8) so it's definitely not the case that they weren't giving hard enough questions to achieve a high score, although I cannot compare it to past official tests.

I used almost exclusively Manhattan gmat stuff to prep, which was significantly harder on quant than the real test. Just studied hard every day for a month and honestly felt more than ready at that point. My highest practice test quant score on Mgmat was 47 but I was getting almost every official guide question right that I tried. The section guides were also very helpful for truly understanding the concepts. I think getting used to the timing of harder questions that mgmat throws at you consistently and ultimately understanding how to get many of them right paid off big time. I would not have been nearly this prepared if I focused more on OG problems.

Posted from my mobile device

Congratulations! 770 is a really awesome score :)
How did you decide on the section order?

For me, quant required the greatest amount of focus so I wanted to do it first. I took my first couple of Manhattan CATs with Verbal first and then switched and liked it more with Quant first. Doubt it made a hugely significant difference at the end of the day though, really just personal preference.

Posted from my mobile device
avatar
ss18
Joined: 11 Jun 2014
Last visit: 03 Feb 2021
Posts: 110
Own Kudos:
36
 [1]
Given Kudos: 48
Location: India
GMAT 1: 670 Q47 V35
GPA: 3.4
Products:
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hi Everyone,

I took the gmat today and scored a 670 (Q47 V35). The order was V Q IR AWA. I have taken the exam earlier and the level of questions seemed no different. Although my score is a slight departure from my GmatPrep mocks from exam pack 1 (700 and 690), I'm almost sure of the sections or subsections I didn't do as well on.

I'll be ordering the ESR. To reiterate, the exam has NOT changed!

If anyone has any questions about how and where the order selection pops up, etc., I'd be happy to answer.

Edit (after receiving ESR): The ESR confirms what I was suspecting.

- Math breakup shows that I did better on DS than on PS. Usually this is the opposite for me, but overall my score was the same as my last GMATPrep mock.
- In verbal, my ESR breakup (CR:31, SC:34, RC:51) is almost exactly similar to my GMATPrep mock (CR:40, SC:33, RC:51), the exception being CR which caused the drop from my usual V38 to V35.


Best,
SS18

Posted from my mobile device
avatar
gmat7m
Joined: 27 Oct 2014
Last visit: 19 Jun 2019
Posts: 153
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 29
Location: India
GMAT 1: 760 Q50 V41
GPA: 4
WE:Consulting (Consulting)
Products:
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hello good people of GMATClub.

I took my GMAT for the third time today and selected the V>Q>IR>AWA order. I did not find the questions were easier or tougher than the GMATPrep questions / exam packs. I scored a 760 with 50/41/8 but I couldn't answer the last verbal question because I ran out of time. My previous two attempts were 700 with 46/40 in Nov'14 and 700 with 48/40 in Jul'16.
   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   
Moderator:
General GMAT Forum Moderator
444 posts