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Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his [#permalink] New post  27 Jul 2008, 21:42
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Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are dangerous. This is clearly untrue. None of the new buses in use has ever been crashed or even had a serious malfunction.
City councilman: The problem with the new buses is not that they malfunction, but that they are so flamboyantly painted that other drivers on the road are distracted and this may cause accidents.

The councilman responds to the bus company president by doing which of the following?

(A) Characterizing the bus company president’s assertion as stemming from subjective interest rather than from objective evaluation of the facts
(B) Drawing attention to the fact that the bus company president’s interpretation of the word “dangerous” is too narrow
(C) Invoking evidence that the bus company president has explicitly dismissed as irrelevant the point at issue
(D) Citing statistical evidence that refutes the bus company president’s claim
(E) Casting doubt on the extent of the bus company president’s knowledge of the number of recent traffic accidents
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  28 Jul 2008, 09:51
Another B.

Seems like everyone has picked B on this one = Great minds think alike:)
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  28 Jul 2008, 09:55
x97agarwal wrote:
Bus company president:A city councilman has stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are dangerous.This is clearly untrue.None of hte new buses in use has ever been crashed or even had a serious malfunction.

city councilman: The problem with the new buses is not that they malfunction, but
that they are so flamboyantly painted that other drivers on the road are distracted and this may cause accidents.
The councilman responds to the bus company president by doing which of the
following?
(A) Characterizing the bus company president’s assertion as stemming from
subjective interest rather than from objective evaluation of the facts
(B) Drawing attention to the fact that the bus company president’s interpretation of
the word “dangerous” is too narrow
(C) Invoking evidence that the bus company president has explicitly dismissed as
irrelevant the point at issue
(D) Citing statistical evidence that refutes the bus company president’s claim
(E) Casting doubt on the extent of the bus company president’s knowledge of the number of recent traffic accidents


IMO B,

Bus company president thinks dangerous means only "crashed or a serious malfunction"
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  07 Sep 2010, 06:45
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  07 Sep 2010, 06:49
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"Stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are dangerous" what does this statement mean? The cityman objected to the claim that the buses are dangerous? Should it not be that he was objection to the claim that they were safe? If you object to the claim that the bus was dangerous, you are saying the bus is safe...

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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  07 Sep 2010, 08:57
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(A) Characterizing the bus company president’s assertion as stemming from subjective interest rather than from objective evaluation of the facts - Actually the president is objective.
(B) Drawing attention to the fact that the bus company president’s interpretation of the word “dangerous” is too narrow - This is the argument.
(C) Invoking evidence that the bus company president has explicitly dismissed as irrelevant the point at issue - Company president never explicitly dismissed the color issue.
(D) Citing statistical evidence that refutes the bus company president’s claim - No statistical evidence is cited.
(E) Casting doubt on the extent of the bus company president’s knowledge of the number of recent traffic accidents - councilman says accidents MAY happen. So the recent traffic accidents and the related number is irrelevant.
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  07 Sep 2010, 09:14
mainhoon wrote:
"Stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are dangerous" what does this statement mean? The cityman objected to the claim that the buses are dangerous? Should it not be that he was objection to the claim that they were safe? If you object to the claim that the bus was dangerous, you are saying the bus is safe...

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I thought the same ......... the claim is that the buses are unsafe .......... objection to the claim - buses are safe !
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  07 Sep 2010, 19:13
Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are dangerous. This is clearly untrue.

This is a statement by the bus company president. And he is saying that the what city councilman said about buses being dangerous is untrue.

I agree its slightly confusing.

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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  07 Sep 2010, 20:09
for Me Ans B ,as the councilman agree with Bus company president and same time he draw attention of Bus company president toward colour off buses
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  07 Sep 2010, 21:43
adishail wrote:
mainhoon wrote:
"Stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are dangerous" what does this statement mean? The cityman objected to the claim that the buses are dangerous? Should it not be that he was objection to the claim that they were safe? If you object to the claim that the bus was dangerous, you are saying the bus is safe...

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I thought the same ......... the claim is that the buses are unsafe .......... objection to the claim - buses are safe !



I agree...the wording's incorrect here...although dismissed that thought as soon as i read the councilman's version...
Ans is B!!!
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  08 Sep 2010, 08:50
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Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are dangerous. This is clearly untrue. None of the new buses in use has ever been crashed or even had a serious malfunction.
City councilman: The problem with the new buses is not that they malfunction, but that they are so flamboyantly painted that other drivers on the road are distracted and this may cause accidents.

The councilman responds to the bus company president by doing which of the following?

(A) Characterizing the bus company president’s assertion as stemming from subjective interest rather than from objective evaluation of the facts Seems tempting but there is nothing to prove subjective vs objective. Simply confusing
(B) Drawing attention to the fact that the bus company president’s interpretation of the word “dangerous” is too narrow This states that to the bus company president dangerous means .. malfunction or crash but to the mayor it means some thing more broad and beyond what the president states..
(C) Invoking evidence that the bus company president has explicitly dismissed as irrelevant the point at issue Irrelevant
(D) Citing statistical evidence that refutes the bus company president’s claim Irrelevant
(E) Casting doubt on the extent of the bus company president’s knowledge of the number of recent traffic accidentsIrrelevant

B it is
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  12 Sep 2010, 09:21
Question has to read:

Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are SAFE. This is clearly untrue.

If it says "dangerous" instead of safe, then as others have pointed out above, the statement would not make sense given the context of the exchange bw the Prez and the Councilman.
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  12 Sep 2010, 09:30
I eliminated C, D and E. Between A and B , A says council member was characterising which is not true. So B
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  14 Sep 2010, 07:49
Eliminated A, D and E. Between B and C, C has the word 'explicitly' which is not justified by the argument. Hence selected B.
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  12 Sep 2011, 15:34
gmat1011 wrote:
Question has to read:

Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are SAFE. This is clearly untrue.

If it says "dangerous" instead of safe, then as others have pointed out above, the statement would not make sense given the context of the exchange bw the Prez and the Councilman.



As gmat1011 and others have stated, the question is worded incorrectly. Based on the answer choices, I went ahead and corrected the stimulus in my head in order to select B as the correct answer.

The city council does not object to the statement that city buses are dangerous, he actually supports that statement!
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Re: CR: BUS ACCIDENTS [#permalink] New post  13 Sep 2011, 06:34
+ 1 B. isnt ideal, but is by far the only that fits
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Re: Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his [#permalink] New post  13 Nov 2011, 21:04
B for me. Nice non-traditional CR question BTW.
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Re: Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his [#permalink] New post  12 Sep 2012, 04:27
x97agarwal wrote:
Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are dangerous. This is clearly untrue. None of the new buses in use has ever been crashed or even had a serious malfunction.
City councilman: The problem with the new buses is not that they malfunction, but that they are so flamboyantly painted that other drivers on the road are distracted and this may cause accidents.



Faulty wording in the question. Based on what's underlined, the interpretation is that the city councilman thinks that the busy are dangerous.
Please reword appropriately. Thanks.

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Re: Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his [#permalink] New post  12 Sep 2012, 04:48
Poor wording of the stimulus.
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Re: Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his [#permalink] New post  12 Sep 2012, 05:09
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x97agarwal wrote:
Bus company president: A city councilman has stated his objection to the claim that the city buses are dangerous. This is clearly untrue. None of the new buses in use has ever been crashed or even had a serious malfunction.
City councilman: The problem with the new buses is not that they malfunction, but that they are so flamboyantly painted that other drivers on the road are distracted and this may cause accidents.



Faulty wording in the question. Based on what's underlined, the interpretation is that the city councilman thinks that the busy are dangerous.
Please reword appropriately. Thanks.

Cheers,
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I agree the stimulus I read meant to say
City Councilman : City Buses are not dangerous
Bus company president: This is untrue. City Buses are dangerous.
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