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By showing that South Africa does not have a free market and is in fact a kind of collectivist welfare state for Whites only, Sowell argues that American conservatives have no valid ideological grounds to be in sympathy with the Pretoria regime.
(A) to be in sympathy with
(B) to sympathize with
(C) for sympathizing with
(D) that they should sympathize with
(E) that they should have sympathy for

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26 Jun 2004, 17:30
I don't think that A is correct. I was stuck between B and C. I lean to C

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26 Jun 2004, 17:46
I strongly think that it's B
"to sympathize with" sounds good to me. This one is about idiom.
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27 Jun 2004, 01:17
Between B and C ,

we have "grounds for" - grounds for presidential impeachment
and "grounds to" - grounds to sue X, grounds to challenge

seems as if grounds for........takes a noun after it
whereas,
grounds to.........takes a verb.....( infinitive)

"grounds to" .......looks better equipped to take "sympathize"

just a gut feeling......leme know if i'm wrong
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27 Jun 2004, 01:21
Paul has explained the difference b/w "aim to" and "aim for"

http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7454

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27 Jun 2004, 03:22
always simple present is prefered over present continous...

hence ''to sympathise with''
suits better off...

hope that helps!

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27 Jun 2004, 05:09
boksana wrote:
By showing that South Africa does not have a free market and is in fact a kind of collectivist welfare state for Whites only, Sowell argues that American conservatives have no valid ideological grounds to be in sympathy with the Pretoria regime.

(A) to be in sympathy with
(B) to sympathize with
(C) for sympathizing with
(D) that they should sympathize with
(E) that they should have sympathy for

It's between B & C for me. However, I think it's B.

A - too wordy, says the same thing as B but with more words
B - clear & concise, uses the correct idiom 'to sympathize with'
C - makes it tough to choose, but somehow doesn't sound idiomatic to me
D - 'that' doesn't make any sense here
E - same as above
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27 Jun 2004, 09:35
Guys, don't you think that
to sympathize ..we don't need with??? We need noun :
to sympathize the regime
So with is EXTRA, but in (c)
for sympathizing with the regime ...with is necessarily!
Hence B is out.

P.S. !!!!Attention russian-speaking guys, try to translate to russian
B does not make sense!
priciny simpatizirovat regimu (nenado s regimom)
prichiny dlya simpatii s regimom (nujbo s)

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27 Jun 2004, 11:15
I'm agree with boksana's explanation.
Because we need noun 'sympathizing'.

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28 Jun 2004, 00:49
boksana wrote:
Guys, don't you think that
to sympathize ..we don't need with??? We need noun :
to sympathize the regime
So with is EXTRA, but in (c)
for sympathizing with the regime ...with is necessarily!
Hence B is out.

P.S. !!!!Attention russian-speaking guys, try to translate to russian
B does not make sense!
priciny simpatizirovat regimu (nenado s regimom)
prichiny dlya simpatii s regimom (nujbo s)

Hold your horses, Oksana! Translating into Russian won't help you any, especially when you deal with prepositions!

You sympathize with a person. End of story.

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28 Jun 2004, 09:26
BTW, the OA is C!!

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28 Jun 2004, 09:44
Well my answer was also B.

I looked up the dictionary and there is no entry for grounds to. Ground for is there. I don't know how much that means.

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29 Jun 2004, 00:44
boksana wrote:
I've found that there is IDIOM grounds FOR.

This is ridiculous. True, "grounds for + gerund" but "grounds to + infinitive" is an equally correct structure.

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29 Jun 2004, 08:50
I don't uderstand what is rediculous. Take a look at a dictionary.

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29 Jun 2004, 09:13
boksana wrote:
Guys, don't you think that
to sympathize ..we don't need with??? We need noun :
to sympathize the regime
So with is EXTRA, but in (c)
for sympathizing with the regime ...with is necessarily!
Hence B is out.

P.S. !!!!Attention russian-speaking guys, try to translate to russian
B does not make sense!
priciny simpatizirovat regimu (nenado s regimom)
prichiny dlya simpatii s regimom (nujbo s)

both idioms "grounds to" and "grounds for" on their own are correct.

Let me try to solve by using an analogy.

Do you have a reason to take his side?
Do you have a reason for taking his side? - sounds better ( the gerund seems to fit here)

The "have" might be the key to the solution.

American cons... have no valid ideological grounds to sympathize with
American cons... have no valid ideological grounds for sympathizing with

In this case I think "grounds for" is better.

oksana,
as Ob said, I too would advise you not to use translation from english to russian and vice-versa for finding out errors
Each language has its own madness

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29 Jun 2004, 13:04
My reason was "By showing...." and hence "for sympathizing" parallel structure.

Is this reasoning ridiculous??

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