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04 Mar 2015, 21:06

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I received an application confirmation email from Tuck but I can't seem to find a link to my application status. Has anyone received a link?

I never got an link, even after I was accepted. I think if I was denied, they would have sent me the link in my email to "check my status"

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04 Mar 2015, 22:36

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so surprised about all this. usually hear such people friendly tales about darden. It's a bit high-handed to say, fly to us or else.

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Congrats everyone!! Looks like I may have to forfeit my Darden interview. Winter storm Thor has cancelled my flight

I would call and tell them the storm cancelled your flight. Like that is a reasonable excuses.... Don't just foreit the darden interview with out talking to them.

Left voicemails and emails all day. No response yet

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05 Mar 2015, 07:40

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Update from Darden. They can reschedule me for march 9, on campus only. Which I can't do unfortunatley.

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05 Mar 2015, 07:44

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Update from Darden. They can reschedule me for march 9, on campus only. Which I can't do unfortunatley.

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WHAT?!?! March 9th is next Monday...that is terrible. What kind of notice is that?! That is really unfortunate that Darden is working this way. I think they could afford to show a little bit more compassion to their applicants, considering the circumstances.

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05 Mar 2015, 07:54

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Geez that's a rough hand. The late invitation and poor weather are not your fault at all, I can't believe Darden isn't willing to bend on policy. The weather alone has been fairly unprecedented.

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05 Mar 2015, 08:05

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Very upset about this. UVA is even closed today due to the weather. And so there had to be many others that are in the same position as me if their interviews were scheduled for today/tomorrow. I just thought they would be more considerate for candidates traveling cross country that don't have money to blow on these last minute plane tickets and can't take off work with only days notice. They wouldn't even entertain the skype interview idea.

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05 Mar 2015, 08:10

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Yes, that is mind-blowing to me. Have you been corresponding with someone in the front office? Maybe it's worth sending the admissions director or Associate Director a note, explaining your situation. I think there must be someone in that office who is reasonable enough to work out Skype interviews, especially if the office is closed today and tomorrow!

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I don't know if this help at all, but... I had an interview scheduled with SOM for early March and after a week or two I got an email saying that because I am a Consortium applicant I needed my interview done by 2/20. This was a week from the day I got the email, so they offered me a Skype interview. I said NO WAY and flew in right away to interview on campus...
Just saying, I think maybe stuff happens that they are not prepared for, but I am very sorry that it is a bad situation for you!!!

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where you trying to send a message of "some folks do it"? Not sure how helpful that is.

Fact is I have a job that if i were to take off with a day or 2 notice at this time, i would get fired. Not sure i'd be willing to take that risk for a school I don't know if i will get into (even if it is my number 1 choice). Actually, even if i were guaranteed admission, i wouldn't do it...because who is going to take care of all my financial responsibilities between now and august?

I think Darden is being quite unreasonable with this stance. She is not a local candidate that can drive down or something... plus with the time difference, you are talking about more than 1 day of work missed.

And it's totally their fault...they've had applications since jan 7. If they wanted to require all CGSM candidates to interview on campus, they should have gone through this earlier. Even NYU that "Strongly prefers" all candidates to interview on campus will make exceptions in extenuating circumstances.

Plus...they seem to have allowed 1 US candidate to do a skype interview.

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05 Mar 2015, 09:01

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My bad, clearly should not have posted anything.

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I think everyone is free to post their experiences and opinions on this forum. Don't shy away just because others disagree...what will you do in business school when others disagree with you?

I hope we can all agree, however, that Darden is being unreasonable in @Rosemariecourt's case. There is no reason to mandate that students visit campus when the school had everyone's application in hand at the top of January (mid-January at the latest.) And considering weather conditions on the East Coast right now, any reasonable person in that admissions office should be able to see that some applicants can't and won't make it to campus to interview. Why? Because Mother Nature said so.

Darden needs to get it together, because this tomfoolery is the fastest way to get themselves ranked No. 6 for applicants next year who are reading this forum.

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05 Mar 2015, 10:14

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I think everywhere is free to post their experiences and opinions on this forum. Don't shy away just because others disagree...what will you do in business school when others disagree with you?

Great point above.

It isn't the unreasonability that has me a little bothered it is the lack of consistency. If one person can Skype at the last moment then another one should be able to especially with the weather. However, I try to look at problems as merely situations. Yes this all sucks but if you find some miraculous way to make it there Monday they will be like damn this person really wants to be here and made tremendous effort to do so. It is a hazing of sorts it seems. Reminds me of undergrad fraternity days. I hate to put additional pressure on you but if you really truly like Darden making it happen could probably tip the scales in your favor. If they are a marginal school then screw it. Save your money.

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05 Mar 2015, 10:36

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Yes this all sucks but if you find some miraculous way to make it there Monday they will be like damn this person really wants to be here and made tremendous effort to do so. It is a hazing of sorts it seems. Reminds me of undergrad fraternity days. I hate to put additional pressure on you but if you really truly like Darden making it happen could probably tip the scales in your favor. If they are a marginal school then screw it. Save your money.

I agree. If Darden is high on your priority list, then by all means necessary...take those planes, trains and automobiles to get thee to Charlottesville. (And it is like hazing, in a way. I did it in college, crossed, and now I ain't going back to do it again. lol)

And if not, if a Darden admit would just be a notch on your belt...Well, as the saying goes, "Onto the next one."

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05 Mar 2015, 11:23

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Even if Darden would view the last minute trip to their campus as a sign of commitment, what about the people who would have done the same thing, but got lots of notification about their interview date instead? I think Darden should have a hard time giving someone extra credit in this situation.

Some people are calling this hazing, and if Darden is actually going to use the commitment of applicants to make these types of sacrifices, I agree. I believe that hazing is used by organizations when they can't effectively choose the best candidates, so they use eagerness as a means of measurement. In other words, if Darden has to see if you arrive on campus on four days' notice as a critical part of the application process, how well are they really evaluating you?

I mean to ask this as literally as possible, and I don't want it to come off as demeaning or sarcastic despite my previous paragraphs. Rosemariecourt, has your ranking of Darden changed from all this?

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People are definitely free to post what they like. I was only asking what the original person hoped to contribute to the conversation.

I guess the question is "is spending money you might not necessarily have and negatively impacting your job a true measure of commitment"?

I went through that pledging process and even then it was never that serious to me. Really the only thing that would be "that serious" to me involves the life and death of people I care about. I want to go to business school. I really want to go to some particular business schools BUT I will not do pretty much anything to get in. And if that keeps me out of a certain business school - then i'm ok with that. That's also how I am at work.

I will do good work and strive to improve, but it is never "that serious" to me. I will not fall ill or neglect the people that are important to me for a job no matter how much I love it.

Some of the schools i was invited to interview at recommend campus visits but I opted for skype interviews because the timing would not work at all with what I do. However, I know what my schedule is like ahead of schedule so I did make time to visit the schools back when I had more control over my schedule.

All this to say, I think people have different opinions about how far you have to go to prove you want something. Even in my pledge class, there were some people that did things I refused to do (and yet somehow we are all in). I don't know about Rosemariecourt but I know if it were me, this would sour me quite a bit on Darden.

PS. Are you only talking to one particular admissions person? I've found some folks are more rigid than others and will enforce rules how they in particular see fit and you might have better luck if you talk to someone else.

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I'm really surprised Darden would be this uncomprehending.That totally sucks!

On the other, for those of us who didn't hear anything from Stern; do you think they'll Ding us SOM-style in the middle of the night or there is still hope? Draft is around the corner so I'm not sure what to expect.

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wow, and you are a US candidate? That is indeed odd!

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The inconsistencies are odd.
I was allowed to Skype with Darden.
I think you guys are in better shape going on campus though. I just couldn't make it work.

Sometimes aligning time off work is excruciatingly difficult, especially with a variety of other commitments on your time. There were schools that I really wanted to go in person to, but simply couldn't make it happen. Any school that can't understand that, I wouldn't want to be at anyways so the feeling would be mutual.

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Rosie's situation is very unfortunate but I think it will all work out for the best when its all said and done.

Another topic: Does anyone know how schools determine who they are going to offer the fellowship if/once accepted? Like if your you get in to your 1st choice, should you like your chances of getting the fellowship?

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Schools likely have different metrics for determining who they will give the fellowship to. It's anyone's guess. Ranking, likely, are a part of that equation, but I cannot imagine that a high ranking alone is the only determinant of who gets a fellowship and who does not.

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It would nice to get more info on this. At this point in the game I want acceptances and I'll worry about financial aid later.

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