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Calling All 2015 Consortium Applicants Thread 05 Mar 2015, 15:14
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Another topic: Does anyone know how schools determine who they are going to offer the fellowship if/once accepted? Like if your you get in to your 1st choice, should you like your chances of getting the fellowship?

Schools likely have different metrics for determining who they will give the fellowship to. It's anyone's guess. Ranking, likely, are a part of that equation, but I cannot imagine that a high ranking alone is the only determinant of who gets a fellowship and who does not.
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Agreed. It's possible to get accepted by a school and not into Consortium. Once we clear the Consortium hurdle, then the schools have their own internal decision points for the fellowship. I would imagine it gets more competitive if they have limited capacity.
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I think it depends on the school and the applicant. I know someone who got the consortium scholarship from his 6TH ranked school. He got into 3 others - meaning 3 higher ranked schools accepted him but didn't give him the fellowship. Then add in the fact that you can get into the school and NOT get into consortium.....so many variables.
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Rosie's situation is very unfortunate but I think it will all work out for the best when its all said and done.

Another topic: Does anyone know how schools determine who they are going to offer the fellowship if/once accepted? Like if your you get in to your 1st choice, should you like your chances of getting the fellowship?
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I have a plan B if all of this falls through - Mexico.
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like moving to Mexico??

Well you still have a good shot at 4 schools so I say your odds look good
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like moving to Mexico??

Well you still have a good shot at 4 schools so I say your odds look good
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Lol yeah but I'm just kidding. It's the waiting period so like everyone else I'm running "what-if" scenarios in my head. We'll see what happens! What is the consensus as to when we'll hear from the Consortium? Around this time next week?
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What is the consensus as to when we'll hear from the Consortium? Around this time next week?
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According to last year's thread, many calls were made by schools regarding fellowship the night of the draft. The meat of the "I got called by X school" is around here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/calling-all-2014-consortium-applicants-153311-420.html

The table they had going looked like this (I added some notes). Keep in mind last year's draft was Tuesday, March 11th.

Haas ===== Calls started 3/11
UCLA ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/27]
Tepper ===== calls started 3/12
Johnson ===== Calls started 3/11
Tuck ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/13]
Goizueta ===== Calls started 3/12
Kelley ===== calls started 3/12
Ross ===== calls started 3/12
UNC ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/14]
Simon =====
Marshall ===== calls started 3/12
Darden ===== calls started 3/12
Olin ===== calls started 3/12
Wisconsin =====
Yale ===== calls started 3/12
McCombs ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/14]
Stern ===== calls started 3/12
McDonough===== [WL posts started 3/18]
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Then add in the fact that you can get into the school and NOT get into consortium.....so many variables.
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Okay, I have this conspiracy theory I'd like to share with you guys:

So, the Consortium tells us that they make the decisions about who gets offered membership and who doesn't, but this actually doesn't seem to hold much water.

My theory is that The Consortium actually doesn't "make a decision" on a candidate without knowing whether or not the candidate got into one of their member schools. So, if you don't get into a school, you don't get into CGSM. They say that you can be accepted into the Consortium anyway, without being admitted into one of their schools, but the privileges of that wouldn't benefit someone who doesn't get into school, thus making that argument moot.

For example, if John Doe applies to 6 Consortium schools and gets into zero of them but then is admitted to the Consortium, he gets to go to OP and do what? Network with a bunch of recruiters who are looking to hire MBA interns (John Doe will have, presumably, both a full-time job and not need an internship, and not be in route to an MBA program)? John Doe gets to go to a bunch of seminars geared specifically towards students who are about to start business school? Essentially, sending someone to OP who doesn't get into school is like giving away a free trip to #turnup for a week over the summer and network with a bunch of folks who will be one foot out of the proverbial bschool door by the time John Doe starts classes.

Let's not even get into the fact that admitting folks into the Consortium costs money, most of which is provided by the schools through scholarships and other paid expenses (like...sending their students to OP free-of-charge.) I know there are corporate sponsors and all who pay for some stuff, but these member schools won't want to waste money unofficially (but officially) paying for students to attend OP who they did not admit into their programs. And CGSM has to keep everyone happy, so the chances of them spend money on headcount that isn't headed to bschool would be unwise, IMO.

Like, it just seems counterproductive for the Consortium to admit anyone who doesn't get into one of their member schools. Which is, thus, why IT SEEMS LIKE they don't really make decisions on candidates until AFTER those candidates are admitted. And when that happens, they take the names of those who each school wants to give money too, and then they ask the schools if they can offer Consortium membership to all of those folks who didn't get the fellowship but got into the schools. Then, the schools would say yay or nay to that on a person-by-person basis. So, in theory, the schools are actually just choosing who gets into The Consortium, and CGSM is facilitating that process.

And....I'm done.
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Then add in the fact that you can get into the school and NOT get into consortium.....so many variables.

Okay, I have this conspiracy theory I'd like to share with you guys:

So, the Consortium tells us that they make the decisions about who gets offered membership and who doesn't, but this actually doesn't seem to hold much water.

My theory is that The Consortium actually doesn't "make a decision" on a candidate without knowing whether or not the candidate got into one of their member schools. So, if you don't get into a school, you don't get into CGSM. They say that you can be accepted into the Consortium anyway, without being admitted into one of their schools, but the privileges of that wouldn't benefit someone who doesn't get into school, thus making that argument moot.

For example, if John Doe applies to 6 Consortium schools and gets into zero of them but then is admitted to the Consortium, he gets to go to OP and do what? Network with a bunch of recruiters who are looking to hire MBA interns (John Doe will have, presumably, both a full-time job and not need an internship, and not be in route to an MBA program)? John Doe gets to go to a bunch of seminars geared specifically towards students who are about to start business school? Essentially, sending someone to OP who doesn't get into school is like giving away a free trip to #turnup for a week over the summer and network with a bunch of folks who will be one foot out of the proverbial bschool door by the time John Doe starts classes.

Let's not even get into the fact that admitting folks into the Consortium costs money, most of which is provided by the schools through scholarships and other paid expenses (like...sending their students to OP free-of-charge.) I know there are corporate sponsors and all who pay for some stuff, but these member schools won't want to waste money unofficially (but officially) paying for students to attend OP who they did not admit into their programs. And CGSM has to keep everyone happy, so the chances of them spend money on headcount that isn't headed to bschool would be unwise, IMO.

Like, it just seems counterproductive for the Consortium to admit anyone who doesn't get into one of their member schools. Which is, thus, why IT SEEMS LIKE they don't really make decisions on candidates until AFTER those candidates are admitted. And when that happens, they take the names of those who each school wants to give money too, and then they ask the schools if they can offer Consortium membership to all of those folks who didn't get the fellowship but got into the schools. Then, the schools would say yay or nay to that on a person-by-person basis. So, in theory, the schools are actually just choosing who gets into The Consortium, and CGSM is facilitating that process.

And....I'm done.
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As far as I know, you cannot become a member of Consortium if you have not been admitted to one of the member schools..
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When the school calls and offers you admission--do they also offer you a membership/fellowship in that same call? Or does CGSM make the fellowship calls?

The wait is getting totally unbearable!!!!!!!!!!!


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What is the consensus as to when we'll hear from the Consortium? Around this time next week?

According to last year's thread, many calls were made by schools regarding fellowship the night of the draft. The meat of the "I got called by X school" is around here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/calling-all-2014-consortium-applicants-153311-420.html

The table they had going looked like this (I added some notes). Keep in mind last year's draft was Tuesday, March 11th.

Haas ===== Calls started 3/11
UCLA ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/27]
Tepper ===== calls started 3/12
Johnson ===== Calls started 3/11
Tuck ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/13]
Goizueta ===== Calls started 3/12
Kelley ===== calls started 3/12
Ross ===== calls started 3/12
UNC ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/14]
Simon =====
Marshall ===== calls started 3/12
Darden ===== calls started 3/12
Olin ===== calls started 3/12
Wisconsin =====
Yale ===== calls started 3/12
McCombs ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/14]
Stern ===== calls started 3/12
McDonough===== [WL posts started 3/18]
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The schools tell you the results. CGSM doesn't make any calls.
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this is correct. My post said - you can get into the SCHOOL and NOT into consortium. you need to get into a school to get consortium. says so on the website.
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Then add in the fact that you can get into the school and NOT get into consortium.....so many variables.

Okay, I have this conspiracy theory I'd like to share with you guys:

So, the Consortium tells us that they make the decisions about who gets offered membership and who doesn't, but this actually doesn't seem to hold much water.

My theory is that The Consortium actually doesn't "make a decision" on a candidate without knowing whether or not the candidate got into one of their member schools. So, if you don't get into a school, you don't get into CGSM. They say that you can be accepted into the Consortium anyway, without being admitted into one of their schools, but the privileges of that wouldn't benefit someone who doesn't get into school, thus making that argument moot.

For example, if John Doe applies to 6 Consortium schools and gets into zero of them but then is admitted to the Consortium, he gets to go to OP and do what? Network with a bunch of recruiters who are looking to hire MBA interns (John Doe will have, presumably, both a full-time job and not need an internship, and not be in route to an MBA program)? John Doe gets to go to a bunch of seminars geared specifically towards students who are about to start business school? Essentially, sending someone to OP who doesn't get into school is like giving away a free trip to #turnup for a week over the summer and network with a bunch of folks who will be one foot out of the proverbial bschool door by the time John Doe starts classes.

Let's not even get into the fact that admitting folks into the Consortium costs money, most of which is provided by the schools through scholarships and other paid expenses (like...sending their students to OP free-of-charge.) I know there are corporate sponsors and all who pay for some stuff, but these member schools won't want to waste money unofficially (but officially) paying for students to attend OP who they did not admit into their programs. And CGSM has to keep everyone happy, so the chances of them spend money on headcount that isn't headed to bschool would be unwise, IMO.

Like, it just seems counterproductive for the Consortium to admit anyone who doesn't get into one of their member schools. Which is, thus, why IT SEEMS LIKE they don't really make decisions on candidates until AFTER those candidates are admitted. And when that happens, they take the names of those who each school wants to give money too, and then they ask the schools if they can offer Consortium membership to all of those folks who didn't get the fellowship but got into the schools. Then, the schools would say yay or nay to that on a person-by-person basis. So, in theory, the schools are actually just choosing who gets into The Consortium, and CGSM is facilitating that process.

And....I'm done.

As far as I know, you cannot become a member of Consortium if you have not been admitted to one of the member schools..
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your consortium status will be updated on the websited on the 11th i think (don't quote me - scroll upthread to get the date - it was 11th or 13th). The draft is the 10th and i think it gets updated the day after. each school is different as to when they call to say - accepted or not. Ross R2 deadline is the 13th anyway - so you will hear by then. For the others, CGSM folks usually hear earlier than the stated date for everyone else (best example is UCLA whose official date is first week of april - we'll know before then). some schools will tell you about CGSM scholarship decision with call and others send that later. Again whether u got into consortium (with or without fellowship) will be posted on the CGSM app page on the 11th (or 13th i forget)
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When the school calls and offers you admission--do they also offer you a membership/fellowship in that same call? Or does CGSM make the fellowship calls?

The wait is getting totally unbearable!!!!!!!!!!!


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What is the consensus as to when we'll hear from the Consortium? Around this time next week?

According to last year's thread, many calls were made by schools regarding fellowship the night of the draft. The meat of the "I got called by X school" is around here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/calling-all-2014-consortium-applicants-153311-420.html

The table they had going looked like this (I added some notes). Keep in mind last year's draft was Tuesday, March 11th.

Haas ===== Calls started 3/11
UCLA ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/27]
Tepper ===== calls started 3/12
Johnson ===== Calls started 3/11
Tuck ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/13]
Goizueta ===== Calls started 3/12
Kelley ===== calls started 3/12
Ross ===== calls started 3/12
UNC ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/14]
Simon =====
Marshall ===== calls started 3/12
Darden ===== calls started 3/12
Olin ===== calls started 3/12
Wisconsin =====
Yale ===== calls started 3/12
McCombs ===== [Acceptance posts started 3/14]
Stern ===== calls started 3/12
McDonough===== [WL posts started 3/18]
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this is correct. My post said - you can get into the SCHOOL and NOT into consortium. you need to get into a school to get consortium. says so on the website.
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I was at a CGSM MAPS event, and the CGSM liaison said that you can get into CGSM without getting into one of the schools, so I wanted to clarify.

And the website doesn't explicitly state that you have to get into one of the schools. It says the following:

"Membership to The Consortium is based on the essay within The Consortium application explaining your commitment to the spirit of The Consortium’s mission, and the letter of recommendation from someone who can comment on this commitment. Member schools do not have access to the membership essay or the membership recommendation. The decision for membership is made solely by The Consortium."

Just want to be clear so that folks reading through don't hold out hope of getting into CGSM without a school admit. :-)
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CGSM notifications will be posted mid-march. I don't believe they sent us a firm date. They will likely be posted AFTER all schools have notified their applicants of decisions. So, CGSM isn't going to post a fellowship/membership decision on their website on say, the 11th of March, if schools haven't notified you of admissions officers until the 13th of March, for example.

Just to be clear. :-)
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this is correct. My post said - you can get into the SCHOOL and NOT into consortium. you need to get into a school to get consortium. says so on the website.

I was at a CGSM MAPS event, and the CGSM liaison said that you can get into CGSM without getting into one of the schools, so I wanted to clarify.

And the website doesn't explicitly state that you have to get into one of the schools. It says the following:

"Membership to The Consortium is based on the essay within The Consortium application explaining your commitment to the spirit of The Consortium’s mission, and the letter of recommendation from someone who can comment on this commitment. Member schools do not have access to the membership essay or the membership recommendation. The decision for membership is made solely by The Consortium."

Just want to be clear so that folks reading through don't hold out hope of getting into CGSM without a school admit. :-)
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The way I understand it, you can be a member of the consortium (as a student) as long as you are admitted to/attending a membership school. For instance, I was accepted at Tepper through normal admissions. If I don't attend Darden/Ross through the Consortium, I can still go to Tepper and be part of the consortium, just without a fellowship.

If I don't go to any school, I won't be a consortium member.
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yep you're correct ..and additionally, even if you didn't apply through consortium but you got into a consortium school, you can request consortium membership. And before some folks try to be clear about this - NYU admissions told a group of us that it was not too late to apply if interested.

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Hello friends, I'm normally a lurker because I don't normally have opportunity to post at work. However, I can finally put this debate to rest. I was admitted at Johnson and received an email from them this morning with an "Important Dates" section. Included is this: March 10, 2015 Consortium Fellowship Selection Meeting.

I was also admitted to Olin and the admissions members told me he thought off the top of his head that March 10th is the date, that most schools will wait a couple days after the 10th to release CGSM and school-specific scholarship information. This should help us all not get too stressed out about what may come before then!

Yes, I got the same email after I was admitted to Johnson.
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this is correct. My post said - you can get into the SCHOOL and NOT into consortium. you need to get into a school to get consortium. says so on the website.


The way I understand it, you can be a member of the consortium (as a student) as long as you are admitted to/attending a membership school. For instance, I was accepted at Tepper through normal admissions. If I don't attend Darden/Ross through the Consortium, I can still go to Tepper and be part of the consortium, just without a fellowship.

If I don't go to any school, I won't be a consortium member.
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I'm sure lots of you have been getting the same emails but from the number of correspondence I've received on this it sounds like they are looking for more applications so I figured I'd share just in case. To the finance focused people - the toigo fellowship is another opportunity to finance your mba. Deadline to apply is ten days away - They stress they define finance "broadly"

https://www.toigofoundation.org/Fellowship-Apply-Now
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I'm sure lots of you have been getting the same emails but from the number of correspondence I've received on this it sounds like they are looking for more applications so I figured I'd share just in case. To the finance focused people - the toigo fellowship is another opportunity to finance your mba. Deadline to apply is ten days away - They stress they define finance "broadly"

https://www.toigofoundation.org/Fellowship-Apply-Now
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I second this. I received an email from USC admissions today giving me a heads-up to apply to Toigo if I haven't already (I have and I'll be at MBA Catapult in May if all goes well). :lol:
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I'm sure lots of you have been getting the same emails but from the number of correspondence I've received on this it sounds like they are looking for more applications so I figured I'd share just in case. To the finance focused people - the toigo fellowship is another opportunity to finance your mba. Deadline to apply is ten days away - They stress they define finance "broadly"

https://www.toigofoundation.org/Fellowship-Apply-Now

I second this. I received an email from USC admissions today giving me a heads-up to apply to Toigo if I haven't already (I have and I'll be at MBA Catapult in May if all goes well). :lol:
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Silly question, you need to meet all 3 criteria to apply right?
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I'm probably not the best person to answer this since I'm neither finance focused nor applying to the program but these 2 links seem to answer most of those questions

https://www.toigofoundation.org/Fellowship-FAQs

https://www.toigofoundation.org/Fellowsh ... quirements

Also for what the consider "finance"

https://www.toigofoundation.org/Finance-Careers


Hopefully that helps... or someone more familiar with the program can chime in.


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I'm sure lots of you have been getting the same emails but from the number of correspondence I've received on this it sounds like they are looking for more applications so I figured I'd share just in case. To the finance focused people - the toigo fellowship is another opportunity to finance your mba. Deadline to apply is ten days away - They stress they define finance "broadly"

https://www.toigofoundation.org/Fellowship-Apply-Now

I second this. I received an email from USC admissions today giving me a heads-up to apply to Toigo if I haven't already (I have and I'll be at MBA Catapult in May if all goes well). :lol:

Silly question, you need to meet all 3 criteria to apply right?
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