Added program info to first post. Please continue Consortium Fall 2010 discussion in this thread - shadowsjc ROLL CALL PAGE UPDATED The Consortium for Graduate Study in Management is the country’s preeminent organization for promoting diversity and inclusion in American business. Through an annual competition, The Consortium awards merit-based, full-tuition fellowships to America’s best and brightest candidates. In conjunction with our member schools, sponsoring companies, and our elite group of MBA students and alumni, The Consortium has built a forty year legacy of fostering inclusion and changing the ethnic and cultural face of American business. Official site : https://www.cgsm.org Related threads/links: any-consortium-applicants-56951.html Transcript of Consortium chat with CGSM and school adcoms: https://www.accepted.com/chat/transcript ... rtium.aspx --- Approximate # of students who are accepted into the CGSM: 480 Approximate # of fellowship offers extended to CGSM members: 330 2009-2010 Deadlines : R1: November 15 2009 R2: January 5 2010 -- Member Schools: Carnegie Mellon University, Tepper School of Business Applicants: maxtor seanyc Cornell University, The Johnson School Applicants: ATCer classof2012 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) mbahopeful2010 MBAYear orky56 ssantos78 What2Do15 Dartmouth College, Tuck School of Business Applicants: 2012mbahopeful alwaysmiling ATCer bschooler (CGSM Fellowship recipient) classof2012 dli1981 HeresHoping ibrokeit007 MBAYear RonMexico ssantos78 Emory University, Goizueta Business School Applicants: Case2010 maxtor MBAbound10 (CGSM fellowship recipient) nefertiti (CGSM fellowship recipient) orky56 seanyc ssantos78 undecided2012 Indiana University-Bloomington, Kelley School of Business Applicants: alwaysmiling Case2010 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) dli1981 EmElleDub gravity1914 honeygirl (CGSM Fellowship recipient) mbahopeful2010 niceguy22 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) orky56 undecided2012 What2Do15 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, Stephen M. Ross School of Business Applicants: 2012dreams alws (CGSM Fellowship recipient) cannedmilkman (CGSM Fellowship recipient) dli1981 drmang7 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) EmElleDub gravity1914 idcandy (CGSM Fellowship recipient) JoeMahmah jumpshot maxtor mbachallenge mbahopeful2010 Mystik742 nefertiti theoutlawfades undecided2012 What2Do15 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) New York University, Leonard N. Stern School of Business Applicants: 2012dreams 2012mbahopeful alwaysmiling AspiringSloanie bschooler Case2010 classof2012 drmang7 giggles2411 HeresHoping ibrokeit007 idcandy JoeMahmah Jupitr84 mbatime Mystik742 onlyneed1 SCBooth seanyc ssantos78 theoutlawfades University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Kenan-Flagler Business School Applicants: undecided2012 University of Rochester, Simon Graduate School of Business University of Southern California, Marshall School of Business Applicants: Case2010 JoeMahmah Jupitr84 lakai777 seanyc ssantos78 What2Do15 The University of Texas at Austin, McCombs School of Business Applicants: alwaysmiling dli1981 gravity1914 jmoney JoeMahmah lakai777 maxtor MBAbound10 nefertiti RonMexico TxTransPlant University of Virginia, Darden School of Business Applicants: bschooler ibrokeit007 Jupitr84 jumpshot lakai777 MBAbound10 RonMexico theoutlawfades TxTransPlant Washington University in St. Louis, Olin Business School Applicants: AspiringSloanie Case2010 orky56 MBAbound10 What2Do15 University of Wisconsin-Madison, Wisconsin School of Business Applicants: gscougar (CGSM Fellowship recipient) jumpshot undecided2012 Yale University, Yale School of Management Applicants: 2012mbahopeful alwaysmiling alws ATCer cannedmilkman classof2012 drmang7 HeresHoping ibrokeit007 JoeMahmah jmoney mbahopeful2010 MBAYear SCBooth shadowsjc ssantos78 theoutlawfades TxTransPlant zippy10 --- I'm wondering whether applying through the Consortium is a good idea. I'm somewhat confused on the review process - Do adcoms treat these applications differently than the general pool? Do adcoms read the core consortium essays (in addition to the school core essays) as part of its review process? Should I go to the traditional application route? For example, my consortium mission essay is not that strong, albeit some experience. The mission of The Consortium is to enhance diversity in business education and leadership by helping to reduce the serious under representation of African Americans, Hispanic Americans and Native Americans in both our member schools' enrollments and the ranks of management. What have you done in your business, academic or personal life to demonstrate commitment to this mission? Please provide specific example of your involvement, actions and results.

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following my heart would lead me to hoosierville... my head is pointing to Blue Devil town.. :-D

if you enjoyed kelley, it is the right fit, and you have the fellowship, i would think very hard about turning down kelley for fuqua (this would be different if your heart was at fuqua). looking at your profile it says you have an interest in marketing, i say duke may have an edge in tech and health care marketing, but other than that, most marketing/CPG brand management opportunities are equal across all the top 20. additionally, marketing is not an area where the brand name of your school is going to make a big difference, and since it is not a typical "high income" field like MC, IB, PE, it makes a full ride that much more appealing - a lot fewer loans to deal with later on.

may i ask why your head is saying fuqua?

I'm actually looking to go into tech marketing...

My head is saying fuqua for a few reasons. I really did like the school and all the people I met. I know a lot more students and recent alums from fuqua, I like to proximity to home, like to overall atmosphere and have a lot of respect for the duke brand. I feel like it makes the most sense for me, my future career and overall "fit".

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.. I really like kelley also. I developed a great relationship with the faculty/ staff and I know that if I went there, they would provide a lot of personal attention to make sure that I have a good b-school experience. (that is my biggest draw)...and it would be on a full ride :roll:

Downside is of course the midwest location, most of the students I really know well are graduating in may and even though kelley has this reputation of being a top marketing school, they're nowhere to be found on the rankings lists... (i'm not a rankings junkie but I believe they should be a part of the consideration, otherwise I would've just gone to a low ranking bschool and saved myself all of this trouble)

https://www.testpreppractice.net/GMAT/mb ... kings.html
https://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... /marketing

I would be fine with either school but I'm making my final decision based on my visits for admitted student's weekend(s).

Anyone else having this dilemma?

Is membership in the consortium network equal to admittance to another prestigeous b-school (if the consortium school has a ""lesser" name/reputation/ranking)? Will I have to do extra leg work at a lesser "brand name" institution or will the scales be balanced by the orientation program?

I have been faced with a similar decision and have talked to a lot of people about it. Being Debt Free is nothing to scoff at, but neither is the opportunities afforded by a top tier institute.

Personally, take the advice I was given ... negotiate!!! I visited Duke's diversity weekend and an alum was faced with this same decision. He had the fellowship to UT, but really liked Duke. He told me he contacted the admissions people and expressed to them how much he wanted to go to Fuqua, but the money was a huge issue. They ended up significantly increasing his scholarship and he ended up leaving school debt free and very little out of pocket costs.

In particular, Duke knows they have to battle the consortium for top students. If they know that have to play ball ... I've been told they will. And this came directly from alumns and current students.

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Interesting conversation brewing here. I agree with 2012dreams, What2Do15 and bschooler above. Ok, I admit I am biased cuz am headed to Kelley but valid points and a healthy exchange of ideas nonetheless...I can take this everyday :lol:

But on a serious note gravity1914, I'd say go with where your heart is at. We all know the value of top tier programs but the fact remains that a huge part of it depends on what YOU want. As many previous posters have noted, especially by 2012dreams, you should go where you "fit" in at. Kelley is BW#15 and Duke is BW#8. But if you think Kelley's your fit, you'd be better if you go there. Many top-15 grads will outdo many top-5 grads and vice versa. A lot of it depends on what you put into it, being honest with yourself and choosing an environment where you'd thrive. To illustrate, I turned down a medical school admit last year in lieu of an MBA and many of my friends thot I was nuts (until I got my Fellowship, may still thot I was out of my mind :lol:

). But I knew what I wanted and am going for it. Many consider an M.D as "top tier" than an MBA or a JD but I am going for what I'd be happy doing for the rest of my life. I will be happier as a multinational entrepreneur/global operations strategist than an Interventional Cardiologist.

You are lucky dude or duddete! Good luck deciding...

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@gravity: Sounds like Maxtor has some great advice. Good luck with that and I'd love to hear how that turns out.

@ Maxtor: Do you mind updating us on what your plans are? It looks like you have some great options?

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I guess I should mention that I have no idea what fuqua is offering yet... I'm still waiting on the admit package (so this could all be moot if they offer me enough) but I can't help but wrestle with the possible scenarios in the meantime...

Thanks for all the advice and thoughts...

I'll update everyone on how things turn out.

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@ Maxtor: Do you mind updating us on what your plans are? It looks like you have some great options?

I will admit that the application process has been working out well so far. My Top 3 are MIT, Duke, and Stanford (although I like Ross and CMU). Pretty sure Stanford is a no go and leaning towards MIT, although currently trying to negotiate a bigger scholarship (got a partial)

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I'm waiting for mine too. Maybe I'll see you at Blue Devil Weekend.

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on the topic of $, does anyone know if schools offer partial fellowships? I received scholarships from some schools but can a school offer a partial fellowship?

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on the topic of $, does anyone know if schools offer partial fellowships? I received scholarships from some schools but can a school offer a partial fellowship?

Who do you negotiate the $$$ with. CGSM or the school?

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The school gives you the money.

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Really, I thought the fellowship funds come from the CGSM...

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on the topic of $, does anyone know if schools offer partial fellowships? I received scholarships from some schools but can a school offer a partial fellowship?

I received a partial fellowship/scholarship, but it wasn't attached to the consortium. I do think that is completely independent of the consortium and usually happens when a school couldn't offer you the full-ride, but still really wants you to come. I've heard of people getting full fellowships outside of the consortium too, even though they applied through the consortium.

I had a friend who turned his partial into a full through some negotiations. Pretty much called and said "I'm going to *other consort school* because they have a full ride, even though I really really love your school. Can you help me". And they did ...

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on the topic of $, does anyone know if schools offer partial fellowships? I received scholarships from some schools but can a school offer a partial fellowship?

Thanks for the info.

Have you ever heard of anyone that was able to negotiate a scholorship without leveraging an offer at another school? I am asking becuase I only applied to Stern through the CGSM.

Thanks.

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Anyone received a fellowship's $$$ from Tepper?

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Anyone received a fellowship's $$$ from Tepper?

No.

I actually emailed their Consortium rep who I got to know through their diversity weekends (and a few calls). Apparently Tepper refuses to say anything about the fellowship and wants you to wait on the consortium.

I love the school, but honestly this is real annoying. First, they are the last school to release decisions. While the video was cute, they were also the only school not to actual do calls (out of the consort ones I got admitted to). And, all the other schools told you themselves about your fellowship and membership. Since they have such a small class, I don't think it's asking too much.

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I only know a few people personally who have done the negotiating and they had competing offers. At minimum though, I think you need to have come type of case. Some reason why you deserve the money. Hell, even just a regular admit from another school should suffice. If not that ... just ask. Worst you can get is a no.

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Anyone received a fellowship's $$$ from Tepper?

Thanks for your answer. I have called the admission directly and received the same feedback...I don't understand why they prefer to proceed this way. From what I understood, the decision have been mailed on monday, so let's see what happens!

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For all its worth, a fellow gmatclubber posted that s/he was admitted at Kelley, didn't get the Fellowship but was awarded a full tuition "Dean Scholarship". I dont know if s/he negotiated but I assume that something happened somewhere. I agree with maxtor that it's worth the try...

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Yeah thanks, negotiating is always fun.

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Anyone get anything in the mail from the Consortium today? I am guessing tomorrow and Friday will be the days.....

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I got a call from Michigan the other night offering me the fellowship (Woohoo!).

On the call, he said that the letter's from the Consortium will be MAILED on 3/18. I'd love to have it sooner as I'm receiving other financial aid info but it looks like Saturday or Monday might be more realistic.