Added program info to first post. Please continue Consortium Fall 2010 discussion in this thread - shadowsjc ROLL CALL PAGE UPDATED The Consortium for Graduate Study in Management is the country’s preeminent organization for promoting diversity and inclusion in American business. Through an annual competition, The Consortium awards merit-based, full-tuition fellowships to America’s best and brightest candidates. In conjunction with our member schools, sponsoring companies, and our elite group of MBA students and alumni, The Consortium has built a forty year legacy of fostering inclusion and changing the ethnic and cultural face of American business. Official site : https://www.cgsm.org Related threads/links: any-consortium-applicants-56951.html Transcript of Consortium chat with CGSM and school adcoms: https://www.accepted.com/chat/transcript ... rtium.aspx --- Approximate # of students who are accepted into the CGSM: 480 Approximate # of fellowship offers extended to CGSM members: 330 2009-2010 Deadlines : R1: November 15 2009 R2: January 5 2010 -- Member Schools: Carnegie Mellon University, Tepper School of Business Applicants: maxtor seanyc Cornell University, The Johnson School Applicants: ATCer classof2012 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) mbahopeful2010 MBAYear orky56 ssantos78 What2Do15 Dartmouth College, Tuck School of Business Applicants: 2012mbahopeful alwaysmiling ATCer bschooler (CGSM Fellowship recipient) classof2012 dli1981 HeresHoping ibrokeit007 MBAYear RonMexico ssantos78 Emory University, Goizueta Business School Applicants: Case2010 maxtor MBAbound10 (CGSM fellowship recipient) nefertiti (CGSM fellowship recipient) orky56 seanyc ssantos78 undecided2012 Indiana University-Bloomington, Kelley School of Business Applicants: alwaysmiling Case2010 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) dli1981 EmElleDub gravity1914 honeygirl (CGSM Fellowship recipient) mbahopeful2010 niceguy22 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) orky56 undecided2012 What2Do15 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, Stephen M. Ross School of Business Applicants: 2012dreams alws (CGSM Fellowship recipient) cannedmilkman (CGSM Fellowship recipient) dli1981 drmang7 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) EmElleDub gravity1914 idcandy (CGSM Fellowship recipient) JoeMahmah jumpshot maxtor mbachallenge mbahopeful2010 Mystik742 nefertiti theoutlawfades undecided2012 What2Do15 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) New York University, Leonard N. Stern School of Business Applicants: 2012dreams 2012mbahopeful alwaysmiling AspiringSloanie bschooler Case2010 classof2012 drmang7 giggles2411 HeresHoping ibrokeit007 idcandy JoeMahmah Jupitr84 mbatime Mystik742 onlyneed1 SCBooth seanyc ssantos78 theoutlawfades University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Kenan-Flagler Business School Applicants: undecided2012 University of Rochester, Simon Graduate School of Business University of Southern California, Marshall School of Business Applicants: Case2010 JoeMahmah Jupitr84 lakai777 seanyc ssantos78 What2Do15 The University of Texas at Austin, McCombs School of Business Applicants: alwaysmiling dli1981 gravity1914 jmoney JoeMahmah lakai777 maxtor MBAbound10 nefertiti RonMexico TxTransPlant University of Virginia, Darden School of Business Applicants: bschooler ibrokeit007 Jupitr84 jumpshot lakai777 MBAbound10 RonMexico theoutlawfades TxTransPlant Washington University in St. Louis, Olin Business School Applicants: AspiringSloanie Case2010 orky56 MBAbound10 What2Do15 University of Wisconsin-Madison, Wisconsin School of Business Applicants: gscougar (CGSM Fellowship recipient) jumpshot undecided2012 Yale University, Yale School of Management Applicants: 2012mbahopeful alwaysmiling alws ATCer cannedmilkman classof2012 drmang7 HeresHoping ibrokeit007 JoeMahmah jmoney mbahopeful2010 MBAYear SCBooth shadowsjc ssantos78 theoutlawfades TxTransPlant zippy10 --- I'm wondering whether applying through the Consortium is a good idea. I'm somewhat confused on the review process - Do adcoms treat these applications differently than the general pool? Do adcoms read the core consortium essays (in addition to the school core essays) as part of its review process? Should I go to the traditional application route? For example, my consortium mission essay is not that strong, albeit some experience. The mission of The Consortium is to enhance diversity in business education and leadership by helping to reduce the serious under representation of African Americans, Hispanic Americans and Native Americans in both our member schools' enrollments and the ranks of management. What have you done in your business, academic or personal life to demonstrate commitment to this mission? Please provide specific example of your involvement, actions and results.

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I saw this question posted on the Yale thread, and I don't think it was answered:

Does anyone who applied to Yale feel like applying through the Consortium may have hurt their chances? I think the statistics showed that only 1 out of the 12 people who applied through the Consortium got in, versus a much higher percentage of people who applied regularly.

I don't think it's applying through the Consortium that is the problem. The problem could be that, if you were to use GMAC statistics, most minorities, who are more likely to apply through the Consortium, have lower GMATs than the average for the school. In other words it's more a question of demographics than the process.

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I didn't apply to Yale, but I have heard a healthy amount about them as a lot of people apply and I know someone who personally got the fellowship for Yale.

Essentially, I do hear Yale needs to be ranked as #1 in order for you to seriously be considered. I would hypothesize that the reason their entry is lower for consortium apps is because a lot of people will put Yale as a 3 or lower pick. They don't really want to go to Yale, but if you are just adding schools to better your chances, why not Yale.

I would look to try and find out how many people who really wanted to go to Yale actually got in.

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Completely agree with Maxtor. In hind sight, I should have ranked them 1 instead of 2. Especially with the number of people who apply to Yale and considering they have such a small class, if you didn't rank them #1, why would they bother.

If you really want to go there and rank them as such, it wouldn't hurt your chances at all applying through the Consortium. Only help.

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I received admissions into a CGSM member school (UT) on Friday. Along with my admin they sent me an invitation to apply for the OP in June. This is a fantastic program, but the application is due tomorrow. My question is who are people using for recommenders? I don’t currently belong to any diversity programs so I would possibly ask a family member. I was the first in my entire family to even finish high school, but have sense helped others through the process of getting GED’s and attending college. Would something like this be in line with what the CGSM is looking for or are they specifically looking for membership in certain diversity programs?

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For my non-professional recommender, I actually used my old college roommate and good friend. I had helped him with the job search coming out of school, and he had been with me or seen me do a lot of the mentoring I had done. He was able to speak to a lot of the community service and activities I had accomplished. I had very good results with the schools I applied to, so I can say it worked fine for me.

For the non-professional one, I think someone (preferably not family) who can really stand up and speak about your commitment is going to be key.

Good luck.

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i don't know if it necessarily hurts your chances, unless you don't rank them 1st. this is especially true because the class size is so small (as others have already pointed out) and yield is a big part of the admissions process.

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my non-professional recommendation was a college professor who i remained in close contact with. as with most other recommendation letters, i'd stay away from obtaining a family LOR.

your story sounds exactly like what the CGSM stands for - not only to receive help, but to pay it forward so to speak. good luck and hopefully you can make it to OP - from everything i've read, it sounds like it's a great event.

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is anyone attending the mba jumpstart diversity forum and/or heard whether it's worth attending?

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i'll be attending it this year. i heard from people who attended it last year that it was definitely worth it - at least one of them will be interning with goldman sachs this summer, which is one of the firms being represented at the conference. i think it's particularly useful if you're a career switcher and/or have limited experience in the banking or consulting industries. as with any conference, though, you'll have to put in time and effort in order to get any sort of tangible benefit from it.

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Off waitlist at Stern ... dinged w/o interview. I'll be applying again next year.

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great! i'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion about it online. i can use as much prepping as i can get so i'll def'ly be there. thanks for the info!

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Just wondering about how the CGSM process works. Can you only receive a fellowship offer from one school? Or, can you receive a fellowship offer from multiple schools that where you are admitted?

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when you apply, you rank the schools 1-6 (or however many you applied to). when it comes time to award the fellowships, reps from all the schools you applied to meet with the consortium. the school you ranked first will get the first chance to award you the fellowship. if they decline, then the next highest ranked school will be given the option, etc.

you can only receive one fellowship award, and it is non-transferable. if your 2nd ranked school offers you the fellowship, but you really want to go to the 1st ranked school, you can't transfer the award to the 1st school.

the fellowship does not take the place of a regular school award, so even if a school does not offer you the CGSM fellowship, they can still offer you financial aid or scholarships.

what isn't exactly clear to me is why your #1 school wouldn't always offer you the fellowship, assuming that the funds for the fellowship come 100% from the CGSM. the only situation that i can think of is that the school actually covers a portion (say half) of the fellowship, and the CGSM matches this. this is just me thinking out loud though - if anyone has any firm answers, i'd love to hear it.

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Thanks shadowsjc.

Yeah I agree with you the school must take on some part of the financial responsibility for the scholorship, otherwise why would they give you the fellowship for your top ranked school. I know that NYU does not give out a lot of fellowhsips, but Ross does. So there must be some logical explanation for this.

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what isn't exactly clear to me is why your #1 school wouldn't always offer you the fellowship, assuming that the funds for the fellowship come 100% from the CGSM. the only situation that i can think of is that the school actually covers a portion (say half) of the fellowship, and the CGSM matches this. this is just me thinking out loud though - if anyone has any firm answers, i'd love to hear it.

The schools fund the fellowships not the Consortium and each school has a certain number of fellowships they will award and this is different for every school. From what I can tell these are awarded based on how attractive an applicant you are to that school.

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Any idea if Duke will joing CGSM this year?

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"But ... I want to a Duke ACC rival school ... so maybe I'm biased"

Judging by your grammar I'd say...unc, right? :-)

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Hey guys, I hope everyone is doing well at their new schools!

If anyone still checks this thread, can someone maybe answer a question for me?

I was wondering if I could get some examples of who you used for the mission recommendation. While I fit the mission, I don't have anyone that I can readily contact for a recommendation. I was thinking a family friend? I was also thinking about contacting my on-campus latino community group (im currently a grad student), and asking them if we can talk, explain my situation, and maybe someone there can write me a letter.