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Camille Claudet worked continuously through the 1880’s and early 1890’

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Camille Claudet worked continuously through the 1880’s and early 1890’s with the sculptor Auguste Rodin; since there are very few signed works of hers, the inescapable conclusion seems to be one of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period.


(A) inescapable conclusion seems to be one of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period

(B) conclusion of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period seems inescapable

(C) conclusion seems inescapable that part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period was conceived and executed by Claudet

(D) conclusion of part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period having been conceived and executed by Claudet seems inescapable

(E) seemingly inescapable conclusion is that Claudet would have conceived and executed part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period

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The use of present participles conceiving and executing as presented in A and B is rather awkward for an event that was supposed to have happened more than a century ago.
D is equally inadmissible in that it uses the passive voice having been conceived and executed. Finally that Claudet would have conceived and executed part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period as in E, is bordering more on certainty rather than on plausibility. This leaves only C, and hence must be the best of the lot, although it might have been still better if the statement was made in active voice. Nevertheless the best.
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196. Camille Claudet worked continuously through the 1880’s and early 1890’s with the sculptor Auguste Rodin; since there are very few signed works of hers, the inescapable conclusion seems to be one of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period.(
(A) inescapable conclusion seems to be one of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period
(B) conclusion of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period seems inescapable
(C) conclusion seems inescapable that part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period was conceived and executed by Claudet
(D) conclusion of part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period having been conceived and executed by Claudet seems inescapable
(E) seemingly inescapable conclusion is that Claudet would have conceived and executed part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period

C. or E. on first blush. A,B, and D. are very awkward and certainly not correct. So, now what is the difference? Which has a flaw or even a partial flaw. okay E seems to have the 'would have conceived and executed' where no subjunctive is called for. C. it reads better and I don't see a flaw.

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196. Camille Claudet worked continuously through the 1880’s and early 1890’s with the sculptor Auguste Rodin; since there are very few signed works of hers, the inescapable conclusion seems to be one of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period.(
(A) inescapable conclusion seems to be one of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period
[color=#FF0040]one of Cludet just doesn't sound right to me[/color]
(B) conclusion of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period seems inescapable
[color=#FF0040]seems inescapable needs to be next to the subject it is modifying conclusion[/color]
(C) conclusion seems inescapable that part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period was conceived and executed by Claudet
Prefer E as this is passive mood
(D) conclusion of part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period having been conceived and executed by Claudet seems inescapable
See reasons for both C and D above
(E) seemingly inescapable conclusion is that Claudet would have conceived and executed part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period

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Can sum1 pls explain y is option E wrong ?
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Can sum1 pls explain y is option E wrong ?


Conditional perfect "would have" is used for a hypothetical instance that never happened in the past.

IF Sophie HAD EATEN pizza yesterday, THEN she WOULD HAVE BECOME ill.
IF Past Perfect, THEN Conditional Perfect (example from Manhattan GMAT)

The above statement implies that Sophie did not eat Pizza yesterday and did not become ill.

Camille Claudet actually conceived and executed, hence use of conditional perfect is wrong.
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seem is a special verb.

seem+adjective

in this pattern the subject of seem is real
you seem tired to do this job

it seem that you are good at gmat.

in this pattern, it is fake subject.

so , that-clause can go with seem verb if the subject is fake.

in choice C. the subject is real so, seem can not go with that-clause.

c is wrong grammatically.

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seem is a special verb.

seem+adjective

in this pattern the subject of seem is real
you seem tired to do this job

it seem that you are good at gmat.

in this pattern, it is fake subject.

so , that-clause can go with seem verb if the subject is fake.

in choice C. the subject is real so, seem can not go with that-clause.

c is wrong grammatically.

Am I right?



"That" clause may go even with a "real" subject:
Here "that" refers to a "real" SUBJECT, and instead of the "fake" placeholder "it", an actual noun is used: "conclusion". Read the sentence as follows:

The conclusion (that part of production was conceived by Camille) seems inescapable.

Ideally the "that" clause should have been next to "conclusion".
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shonakshi wrote:
Can sum1 pls explain y is option E wrong ?


Conditional perfect "would have" is used for a hypothetical instance that never happened in the past.

IF Sophie HAD EATEN pizza yesterday, THEN she WOULD HAVE BECOME ill.
IF Past Perfect, THEN Conditional Perfect (example from Manhattan GMAT)

The above statement implies that Sophie did not eat Pizza yesterday and did not become ill.

Camille Claudet actually conceived and executed, hence use of conditional perfect is wrong.


Can you explain why (B) is wrong?
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sayantanc2k wrote:
shonakshi wrote:
Can sum1 pls explain y is option E wrong ?


Conditional perfect "would have" is used for a hypothetical instance that never happened in the past.

IF Sophie HAD EATEN pizza yesterday, THEN she WOULD HAVE BECOME ill.
IF Past Perfect, THEN Conditional Perfect (example from Manhattan GMAT)

The above statement implies that Sophie did not eat Pizza yesterday and did not become ill.

Camille Claudet actually conceived and executed, hence use of conditional perfect is wrong.


Can you explain why (B) is wrong?


In B, the implication is that the conclusion was made by Claudet ( "conclusion of Claudet") - the part "conceiving and executing part of Rodin’s enormous production of that period" modifies Claudet. The basic structure (after removing the modifier) of this clause is "conclusion of Claudet seems inescapable" - this construction does not make any sense.
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Pre-thinking - Any thing after ';' must be a full sentence. Here two clauses are combined. First is dependent clause as it is started with since, SV pair is there. Post ',' it must be independent clause, another SV pair with independent meaning.

a. inescapable conclusion seems to be one of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin's enormous production of that period --- Main essence of this sentence is conclusion seems to be something. What is something? "one of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin's enormous production of that period." --- this part should have another verb. "one of Claudet" --- this does not make sense.

b. conclusion of Claudet conceiving and executing part of Rodin's enormous production of that period seems inescapable ---- Meaning is Conclusion of Something seems inescapable. 'conceiving and executing' is modifying part. I don't like the meaning of it at all.

c. conclusion seems inescapable that part of Rodin's enormous production of that period was conceived and executed by Claudet --- Meaning : a part of rodin's production was done by Camille. meaning and grammar is all right.

d. conclusion of part of Rodin's enormous production of that period having been conceived and executed by Claudet seems inescapable --- again making conclusion out of something else.

e. seemingly inescapable conclusion is that Claudet would have conceived and executed part of Rodin's enormous production of that period. --- I have almost select this option and then i saw 'would have'. inescapable and would have makes it redundant. Would have will change the meaning too.
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Hi , Can you please explain the difference b/w B & C in this one.
Though C looks like a much better choice but still it has got an passive construction at the end. Also, does conclusion seems inescapable need to be together here?
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Hi gmat8998

This is a good question to discuss, because we find a typical GMAT split here: that vs. of (or that vs. another preposition).
In my observation, this split is a dominant issue in SC questions. Let me explain what I mean ...

We find many SC questions that ask us to choose between something like the following:
* The scientists' belief in the rapidly increasing global temperatures inspired two articles ...
* The scientists' belief that global temperatures are rapidly increasing inspired two articles ...

See the split here? While both idioms are correct [belief in noun, and belief that subject + verb], GMAT will usually prefer the second one when you have an idea that is too "heavy" to pack into a noun and would be better expressed with a verb.
When there really is an action, GMAT will prefer to express that with a real, conjugated verb, instead of turning that verb into an adjective and piling it on top of a noun.

We often find this split with thinking words ... such as belief, conclusion, convinced, or report.
(Researchers are convinced of noun, vs. Researchers are convinced that subject + verb.)

This same split is the dominant consideration when deciding between B and C above.

Should we choose "conclusion of" + noun, or "conclusion that" + subject + verb?
Well, how complex is the idea we need to put after "conclusion"?
In this case, pretty complicated! Way too complicated to pile all on top of a noun.
(conclusion of someone doing something vs. conclusion that someone did something)

You're right about C: it still has a passive construction at the end. It would be even better if we had an alternative to C that used "that" AND had an active construction at the end. But we don't have one, and so we'll have to settle for C.

Regarding your other question, whether "conclusion seems inescapable" must all be together ... it's better that way, yes. Would it be dead wrong to split it up? Not necessarily. I think we'd find some other issue in the sentence that would lead us to our final decision.

Does this help? This is a very good issue to be clear about, because it comes up often, so let me know if you can now apply it.

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jennpt these are some really sharp observations. I often used to be confused in such choices as sometimes Gmat has preferred 'of' & sometimes 'that' in that vs. of type options.
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Camille Claudet "worked" continuously....and so it makes sense the work was "executed" and "conceived" by Claudet
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