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Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years as old as any of their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.

(A) as old as any of their supposed
(B) older than any of their supposed
(C) as old as their supposed
(D) older than any of their supposedly
(E) as old as their supposedly

Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years as old as any of their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.

Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years as old as their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.

Which of the above two sentences is correct and why?

https://www.nytimes.com/1973/11/04/archives/before-civilization-the-radiocarbon-revolution-and-prehistoric.html


JOURNAL ARTICLE
The Social Archaeology of Megalithic Monuments
Colin Renfrew
Scientific American
Vol. 249, No. 5 (November 1983), pp. 152-163
Published by: Scientific American, a division of Nature America, Inc.
Stable URL: https://www.jstor.org/stable/24969036
Page Count: 12

The development of carbon-14 dating caused the complete collapse of the dif­fusionist view. It was soon learned that the megalithic monuments in several ar­eas of Europe were nearly 2,000 years older than any of their supposed Medi­terranean predecessors. Some of the ear­liest of them, in Brittany, could be dated back to 4500 B.C. There could no longer be any doubt that the monuments, the earliest stone structures still standing anywhere in the world, were of local Eu­ropean origin.

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supposedly=adverb--> modifier to a verb, an adverb, a clause, a phrase, a sentence, an adjective
supposed=adjective--> modifier to a noun

As you can see, what comes after "supposed" is a noun and should thus be preceded by an adjective.

However, "supposed" could also be used as a past participle in which case you would have a sentence as follows:
You are supposed to eat what I tell you to eat.
As you can see, "supposed" here plays the role of a past participle (to be + participle). As such, you will have "supposed" in front of a verb (to eat)
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Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years as old as any of their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.

Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years as old as their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.


Which of the above two sentences is correct and why?


Both sentences are correct.

But the meaning of both sentence is different.

Sentence 1) There may be many predecessors(such as generations) for megalithic monuments and these monuments are compared with any of their predecessor.

Sentence 2) Here monuments are comapred with its immediate predecessor and not all (generations).

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My cats are as old as any of their cats.
My cats are as old as their cats.

My pick would largely depend on the meaning of the original sentence. But I like the 2nd sentence better.
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I guess in A we should use "older than" because we are comparing between two. One to any(one) of their.

In B we can't compare "one to their", we compare between one to other, one with another or one to any(one).
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B: “Supposed” functions as participle and can function as adjective. Therefore it can modify the “Mediterranean predecessors”

D: “supposedly” functions as adverb and cannot modify the noun/pronoun – in this case “Mediterranean predecessors”

You can find more information at: http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/verbs.htm#participle
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Seems to be (D), (my answers are normally wrong),

I want to express some reasons behind my choice but I cant!!

... are nearly 2,000 year as old as..... not making sense for me. This is the only reason :)

Sorry for not answering with explanation. :(
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Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years as old as any of their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.

(A) as old as any of their supposed
(B) older than any of their supposed
(C) as old as their supposed
(D) older than any of their supposedly
(E) as old as their supposedly


I think here ' as old as' makes sense. sentence is trying to say both MM and MP are 2000 years old.

if you use 'older than', then i tmeans MM are as old as MP + 2000 more years. I don't think this is intended meaning here.

'as old as' leaves you A, C and E options.

again
'supposed' vs 'supposedly' ..adverb doesnt go with MP.

So my pick is C.
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imo c....
D& E are out bcoz we need an adjective to modify noun...
camn any one explain how we can make A out...
I also think its wrong to use "any of their....mediterranean predecessors" ...comments needed...

Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years as old as any of their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.

(A) as old as any of their supposed ...
(B) older than any of their supposed..changes the meaning of the original sentence ...Sentecnce wants to say that both MM & MP are 2000 year old...
(C) as old as their supposed ...correct
(D) older than any of their supposedly
(E) as old as their supposedly
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Dear All,

Great discussion on the question at hand!

The OA is indeed (B).

Here's my personal take:

1. "supposed" correctly modifies the noun "predecessors", whilst "supposedly" is an adverb, and adverbs modifies nearly anything except nouns/pronouns. It follows that "supposedly" cannot modify the noun "predecessors"; therefore (D) and (E) can be eliminated.

2. "as old as" -vs- "older than"

It is my observation that "as old as" tends to be preceded by relation of quantities by multiplication - e.g. Jen is ten times as old as Ken [J = 10 x K]; whereas the usage of "older than" tends to be preceded by quantity specification - e.g. Sue is five years older than Ian [S = 5 + I] The answer choice fits the latter scenario; hence the choice is (B).


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There are two splits here
First split - supposed vs supposedly
supposed is an adjective and refers to Mediterranean predecessors
supposedly is an adverb and refers to Mediterranean
Thus, supposedly distort the meaning

Second split - as old as vs older -
as old as any of ...
older that any of ... clearly make sense

Thus, B
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Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years as old as any of their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.

A. as old as any of their supposed
B. older than any of their supposed
C. as old as their supposed
D. older than any of their supposedly
E. as old as their supposedly

I understand that since supposed modifies predecessors, the answer should contain supposed. However, how do I choose between "as old as" and 'older than'?
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you have already figured out the difficult part of this one. :)

we are comparing ages here and we always use comparative forms for comparisons.

A is as old as B is.
A is older than B is. (Do you see any difference??)

Moreover the word predecessors conveys that we are talking about old monuments "pre = before" and the monuments in Brittany.

the one is Brittany is older than its supposed predecessors.

Supposedly is incorrect as we are comparing ages not the locations here...

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Can anybody please explain why can't it be "as old as"?
A & B are correct grammatically.
B changes the meaning. Why can't the two monuments be equal in age?
I thought we were asked to go by the original meaning of the sentence. So I chose A. But I am confused now.



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When you mention 'twice/thrice' or some multiplication between two quantities as

A * x times = B , then you use 'as Adjective/adverb/OLD/ as'

However, when the sentence mentions a figure 2000 years ,it has to be a addition/subtraction between quantities.

A+2000=B

So the correct idiom is OLDER THAN.
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My query pertains to below possible two constructions:

Adjective + Adjective + Noun.
Adverb + Adjective + Noun.

The above sentence has two issues

(1). Construction as shown above
(2). Comparison

My doubt is how we could zero on whether we have to use "SUPPOSED" or "SUPPOSEDLY".

Per the sentence we don't know whether the predecessors are MEDITERRANEAN or not.

And as have been said in above posts that MEDITERRANEAN is a noun , I don't agree as it is an Adjective.

So how we decide whether "SUPPOSED" modifies "PREDECESSORS"
OR "SUPPOSEDLY" modifies "MEDITERRANEAN".

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A. as old as any of their supposed---- Unidiomatic. We can't say that something is nearly 2000 yrs as old as ; rather 2000 yrs older is more correct form.

B. older than any of their supposed --- Correct Answer.

C. as old as their supposed. You cannot linke 2000 years and "as old as

D. older than any of their supposedly -- Adj&Adv error. "Supposedly" is an adverb so as Adverb can modify verb, adjective and adverb. In this question, "supposedly"(Adverb) is modifying "Mediterranean"(Adjective). That results in the change of the meaning i.e. It is saying Mediterranean is supposed, though original sentence is saying that "Mediterranean Predecessor" is supposed.

E. as old as their supposedly -- "Supposedly" is an adverb so as Adverb can modify verb, adjective and adverb. In this question, "supposedly"(Adverb) is modifying "Mediterranean"(Adjective). That results in the change of the meaning i.e. It is saying Mediterranean is supposed, though original sentence is saying that "Mediterranean Predecessor" is supposed.
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does not "older" change the meaning?
older means exactly older, while "as old as" means at least same age or older


[*]"I am as old as you" means I am the same age as you
[*]"I am at least as old as you" means I am the same age as you or older (now the addition of "at least" allows it to also mean older)
[*]"I am older than you" means that I am older

Basically, whenever we do a comparison with the "as ... as" construction, we are saying that they are the same. We can modify this with "at least" or something else as seen above, but the base of the comparison is similarity. If we want a difference, we use "... than".

Here, we give the number 2,000. We would never use "as old as" with a set number, because "as old as" means that two things are being compared as the same, whereas the number implies difference (unless we said that one is 2,000 years old and the other is as old as it or something, but we didn't here). Additionally, we are talking about their "predecessors", so we definitely know there is a difference, and no answer includes something like "at least", so we should use "older than" to make a comparison that implies difference.
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Choice B is correct.

Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years as old as any of their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.

A. as old as any of their supposed
correctly compare "monuments in Brittany" with "monuments of Mediterranean predecessors"
fail to express the intended meaning of the comparison, "monuments in Brittany" older than "monuments of Mediterranean predecessors"


B. older than any of their supposed
Correct. correct the errors in choice A

C. as old as their supposed
wrongly compare "monuments in Brittany" and "Mediterranean predecessors"

D. older than any of their supposedly
adverb "supposedly" wrongly modify "predecessors"

E. as old as their supposedly
incorrect for reasons mentioned in choice A and choice D
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The monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years older than those that had previously been dated. Thus, the issue in not whether these monuments are Mediterranean. They are. Rather, the issue is whether the previously dated monuments are actually predecessors. Therefore, the adjective supposed in answer choice B correctly describes the noun predecessors, whereas in choice D the the adverb supposedly incorrectly describes Mediterranean.
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Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years as old as any of their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.

A. as old as any of their supposed
B. older than any of their supposed
C. as old as their supposed
D. older than any of their supposedly
E. as old as their supposedly

I understand that since supposed modifies predecessors, the answer should contain supposed. However, how do I choose between "as old as" and 'older than'?


Carbon-14 dating reveals that the megalithic monuments in Brittany are nearly 2,000 years older than any of their supposed Mediterranean predecessors.

X older than Y - Correct idiomatic usage...

Supposed (Adjective ) correctly modifies Mediterranean predecessors

Hence (B) is good to be a correct answer....
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