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Wharton does have a GND, the administration wants disclosure but leaves the issue up to the student government which opts for a GND. I think both schools would be great but here's what I came away with after visiting Wharton. City, yea Philly isn't that great but center city (where you will live) + university city are very nice. Honestly the areas I saw were great and you don't have to venture outside of that. Location is better than Chicago, close to NYC, Philly which helps if you want to do IB/PE etc...since you can make more trips to the companies offices (this is what I was told, don't really know how it helps except to spread things out versus the nyc interview week offered by a lot of other schools). Wharton has a lot of programmes in int'l business that cross over to research centers on campus, which for me is a big plus. Both schools will give you a great platform, everyone I met at Wharton loved it and I'm sure everyone at GSB will say the same...go with location if you have to choose.
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Just to add this if I may. This is one amazingly awesome decision to have to make. Both schools have some strengths and weaknesses, but both are also probably the best two finance schools in the world. Even outside of finance, each school holds its own in most other fields. Not a bad decision to have to make.
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Wharton is a GND program. The current student has just clarified :) So there is no difference in academic rigor of Chicago or Wharton (amended my previous post).


I am not clear what this means? So both Chicago and Wharton is GND program?
So you don't state your grades when you are asked in interviews?

And when people reply by saying which city you like better, wouldn't you be in that city for approximately 2 years, unless you choose a job in that city. Wouldn't both schools be able to place you anywhere in the nation?

I would visit both schools if possible, and see which has a better click with your personal lifestyle.
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I have some good comments on this stuff, but im very hungover at the moment, so I'll try to come back later when my eyes dont feel like they are being squished.

Still waiting for your good comments :) Would love to have your input.
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Some more thoughts:

Wharton is probably the most recognized B-school on earth (perhaps even more than HS), I don't know if you guys remember when I asked what is the importance of the main institution at the B-school? Well, when I was thinking whether or not I should apply to Wharton (after being admitted to GSB) I made some research of the B-schools academics and prestigiousness (is it a word? :) ):

Claimed Nobel Laureates:
University of Chicago: 81
University of Pennsylvania: 19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Priz ... ffiliation

Economics Nobel Laureates:
UofC: 10
UPenn: 1
For the B-schools it would be (6 for 1)
https://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economics/laureates/

Total University Endowment:
UofC:U$6.2Bi (total undergrad and grad students: 14,700)
UPenn: U$6.78Bi (total undergrad and grad students: 19,800)

B-School Faculty Number:
GSB: 175
Wharton: 304

In terms of ranking we all know that Wharton has always been among the TOP3 schools, while GSB among the TOP5, I'd say that rank wise Wharton is the clear winner here.

I met a bunch of people during GSB admit weekend who were deciding between these 2 schools, and from what they told me most of them were leaning towards GSB (not sure though if they told this because they were in Chicago at that time).

Once again: You can't go wrong with neither of them, so if you have to choose, good for you. 8-)
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How do these 2 schools compare to each other in terms of workload? In general, how many hours per week does one dedicate to the school, to work, to recruiting events, etc? Are we talking 60 - 70 hours per week, more, less? How do the other schools fare on that point of view btw? I know it depends on the courses you choose, etc, but I would like to have a broad idea.
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Some more thoughts:

Wharton is probably the most recognized B-school on earth (perhaps even more than HS), I don't know if you guys remember when I asked what is the importance of the main institution at the B-school? Well, when I was thinking whether or not I should apply to Wharton (after being admitted to GSB) I made some research of the B-schools academics and prestigiousness (is it a word? :) ):

Claimed Nobel Laureates:
University of Chicago: 81
University of Pennsylvania: 19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Priz ... ffiliation

Economics Nobel Laureates:
UofC: 10
UPenn: 1
For the B-schools it would be (6 for 1)
https://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economics/laureates/

Total University Endowment:
UofC:U$6.2Bi (total undergrad and grad students: 14,700)
UPenn: U$6.78Bi (total undergrad and grad students: 19,800)

B-School Faculty Number:
GSB: 175
Wharton: 304

In terms of ranking we all know that Wharton has always been among the TOP3 schools, while GSB among the TOP5, I'd say that rank wise Wharton is the clear winner here.

I met a bunch of people during GSB admit weekend who were deciding between these 2 schools, and from what they told me most of them were leaning towards GSB (not sure though if they told this because they were in Chicago at that time).

Once again: You can't go wrong with neither of them, so if you have to choose, good for you. 8-)

Good stuff Kwam!
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How do these 2 schools compare to each other in terms of workload? In general, how many hours per week does one dedicate to the school, to work, to recruiting events, etc? Are we talking 60 - 70 hours per week, more, less? How do the other schools fare on that point of view btw? I know it depends on the courses you choose, etc, but I would like to have a broad idea.

Its going to vary a LOT. If you take Kevin Murphy's Turbo Microeconomics course, its not uncommon for people to quote figures like 20 hours a week -- just for his class. Other super popular courses are also heavy workloads -- the new venture challenge for instance, I think averages 11 hours.

Most courses seem to require approx 3 to 4 hours outside of class. With four courses per week, thats 12 hours in class, with approx 16 outside -- lets say 30 total for attending class and doing the homework. If you push yourself a bit, expect a bit more, maybe 35. Throw in a couple group meetings here and there that tend to take longer than you always think they will, and 40 seems like a reasonable figure. Now, layer in some extracurricular activities, volunteering, etc, and 50 hours isn't hard to get to. Layer in recruiting dinners, social cocktail hours, meetings with career services, mock interviews, actual interviews, resume editing, company research, cover letter editing, day-at-company events, coffee chats, conversations with alumni, meetings with current students, flying out for 2nd rounds, going to 3-hour long back to back consulting interviews, commuting.... and for a few weeks there in the winter, yea, you'll cry uncle.....

Let me be clear: If you think graduate school is going to be a time to 'work on your tan' or 'improve your golf game', if you plan on going to a top 10 - or even a top 15 probably - I'd say you had best adjust your expectations. Wharton, Chicago, or other.... expect to earn your MBA.
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Very aptly put rhyme, kudos
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EUR/USD 1,5829

Nikkei down 514 points...

It's going to be a mad Monday...
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EUR/USD 1,5829

Nikkei down 514 points...

It's going to be a mad Monday...

It is going to be a mad year (or two).
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EUR/USD 1,5829

Nikkei down 514 points...

It's going to be a mad Monday...

It is going to be a mad year (or two).

Ops sorry, it was in the wrong thread...
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I have some good comments on this stuff, but im very hungover at the moment, so I'll try to come back later when my eyes dont feel like they are being squished.

Still waiting for your good comments :) Would love to have your input.

STILL waiting for your comments :-D

The choice is, I have to admit, excruciating, and although I know that professionally I can't go wrong, the choice on a personal point of view is so difficult...

PS: how do the partying and the sports compare? Those are the things I love the most in life :)
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I have some good comments on this stuff, but im very hungover at the moment, so I'll try to come back later when my eyes dont feel like they are being squished.

Still waiting for your good comments :) Would love to have your input.

STILL waiting for your comments :-D

The choice is, I have to admit, excruciating, and although I know that professionally I can't go wrong, the choice on a personal point of view is so difficult...

PS: how do the partying and the sports compare? Those are the things I love the most in life :)


Come on, are you really asking us that, are you comparing Philly to Chi-town, regarding partying and sports, or are you comparing UofC and UPenn?
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Let me be clear: If you think graduate school is going to be a time to 'work on your tan' or 'improve your golf game', if you plan on going to a top 10 - or even a top 15 probably - I'd say you had best adjust your expectations. Wharton, Chicago, or other.... expect to earn your MBA.

Well-said, rhyme. Looks like my golf game will have to wait until summer 2011...
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Hehe well let's compare sports...

Sixers > Bulls - This year, especially after Feb.
Flyers > Blackhawks
Eagles = Bears - Rex, nuff said
Phillies = Cubs - Both are going to be great...but Chicago wins cause of the White Sox 2 to 1

I don't know anything about UChicago or UPenn college sports. :-D
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Hehe well let's compare sports...

Sixers > Bulls - This year, especially after Feb.
Flyers > Blackhawks
Eagles = Bears - Rex, nuff said
Phillies = Cubs - Both are going to be great...but Chicago wins cause of the White Sox 2 to 1

I don't know anything about UChicago or UPenn college sports. :-D

https://beta.uchicago.edu/features/20080324.shtml

It's kind of have 2 x1 here for Philly then, let's talk about Partying :-D

PS - Don't bring that NYC is 1.5 hours by train, otherwise I'd say that Chicago's downtown is just 15 minutes away from the Harper Center...


PS - I'm just kidding here...
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