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# Data Sufficiency 2

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21 Jul 2009, 02:06
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21 Jul 2009, 03:11
pick numbers:

x=2.5 and y =1.5

1) x+y=4 (so 4 is the closest int) but we can not answer to the Q since there are 2 ints at the same distance from x
NOT SUFF
2) x-y=1 same thing here NOT SUFF

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21 Jul 2009, 06:30
pick numbers:

x=2.5 and y =1.5

1) x+y=4 (so 4 is the closest int) but we can not answer to the Q since there are 2 ints at the same distance from x
NOT SUFF
2) x-y=1 same thing here NOT SUFF

I think this is wrong explanation. We need to know the value of x is closest to which integer?
In other words, what is int(x)?

We know that x = 2.5, thus int(x) = 3. And I don't understand why OA is E (it should be C).
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21 Jul 2009, 06:58
I also marked C but GMATPREP says answer is E.
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21 Jul 2009, 09:05
No, no
Quote:
We know that x = 2.5, thus int(x) = 3

2.5 is closest to which integer?? that's the real question being asked.
2 and 3 are at exactly the same distance from 2.5

My explanation is still good to me.
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21 Jul 2009, 09:24
Stmt 1 says x+y = a number which is closest to Integer 4

the non integers closest to 4 can be less than 4 or greater than 4 ranging from 3.5 - 4.4

So x+y can range from 3.5 - 4.4

so stmt 1 insuffecient

Stmt 2 says x-y = a number which is closest to Integer 1

So x-y can range from 0.5 - 1.4

so stmt 2 insuffecient

combine stmt 1 and stmt2

if we take x+y = 3.5 and x-y = 0.5 we get x = 1.5 and y = 2

if we take x+y = 4.4 and x-y = 0.5 we get x = 1.95 and y = 2.45

so stmt 1 and stmt2 is insuff
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21 Jul 2009, 22:52
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Ok, I'm also confirmed that OA is (E):

Let's consider 2 pairs of equations:

1.
{x+y=3.5
{x-y=0.5
(we see that 4 is closest int to {x+y} and 1 is closest int to {x-y}. let's solve it)

{2x=4.0
{y=x-0.5

{x=2.0 int(x)=2
{y=1.5

2.
{x+y=4.4
{x-y=1.4
(we still see that 4 is closest int to {x+y} and 1 is closest int to {x-y}. let's solve it)

{2x=5.8
{y=x-1.4

{x=2.9 int(x)=3
{y=1.5

Therefore, as we obtain two different answers from given question, the answer is (E) - both statements are NOT sufficient.
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21 Jul 2009, 23:00
No, no
2.5 is closest to which integer?? that's the real question being asked.
2 and 3 are at exactly the same distance from 2.5

Do you know that 2.5 (real) is rounded to 3 (int),
and 2.4 (real) is rounded to 2 (int)?

For additional info, see {Common Method} at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding
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22 Jul 2009, 00:22
Quote:
Do you know that 2.5 (real) is rounded to 3 (int),

Ok I see what youre talking about.

in fact when I saw the question, I assumed it had nothing to do with rounding or whatever. In this case, when I'm asked "what is the closest integer to 2.5?" my aswer is there are two of them.

but if asked "what is the closest integer you obtain when rounding 2.5? " of course the only answer is 3.

When we use the function ROUND() in Excel, it gives your results.....
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22 Jul 2009, 00:45
Shouldnt be it due to the fact that the option suggest that X+Y are close to 4, values above or below 4. Which could be interpreted as say 3.6 or 4.4. X- Y close to 1 which could be 0.6 or 1.4. If you calculate X, Y for these 2 sets of values the options would be different, i.e

X- Y = 0.6
X + Y=4.4

X=2.5 Y=1.9 X closer to 3.

Now consider

X- Y = 0.6
X + Y=3.6
X=2.1 Y=1.5 X closer to 2.

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