Test Score = 510 | Target = 700+ | Time = 2 1/2 months

Question

Hi everybody, before starting studying for the gmat I would like to do a diagnostic test to see my starting level and my weaknesses. I was thinking about doing a replica of a GMAT test, do you think that this is a good idea or should I do another kind of test?

Do you have any diagnostic test to suggest me?

Thank you in advance

Do you have any diagnostic test to suggest me?

Thank you in advance

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 Update 
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CAT Test 
 IR scaled score = 2 
IR percentile = 12

Q scaled score = 31
Q percentile = 26

V scaled score = 29
V percentile = 35

Total Score = 510
Percentile = 35

IR - 10 questions, 8 incorrect
Q - 37 questions, 17 incorrect
V - 41 questions, 13 incorrect

OG Diagnostic Test  (taken the day after the Cat Test)
 Problem Solving  - Average (13/24)
 Data Sufficiency  - Average (10/23)
 Reading Comprehension  - Above Average (15/17)
 Critical Reasoning  - Above Average (11/17)
 Sentence Correction  - Above Average (13/18)

mvictor · Answer

I suggest taking the diagnostic test from the Official Guide. You will see your weaknesses by type of question.

bb · Answer

Welcome to GMAT Club! That's a good idea to take a test to see how you are doing. It is also helpful with tracking your progress when you take your next test (probably in a month or two, perhaps when you are done with Q or V. There are a few options: 1. Diag in the OG 2. GMAT Prep 3. MGMAT/Kaplan/Veritas/Other test All have their strengths and weaknesses. I would actually suggest taking a CAT to help you get a real score. YOu should still do an OG at some point that will give you even a better idea as to where you stand but at this point, getting a hard score is much better than just knowing you missed 20 out 100 questions in the OG diag. It will also give you the entire GMAT experience. Most folks advise against using up a GMAT Prep and I probably agree with that, though I also at the same time think it is OK to take it since the questions you will see will generally be easy and you won't run into them if you reset your test. However, to be safe, just take a Kaplan or MGMAT or Veritas full test. GMAT Club also offers Q and V tests but the free tests are not adaptive and not really suited as a good diag test. Anyway, you should have a clear idea where to head next

Good Luck!

BrentGMATPrepNow · Answer

You can find several free tests (with links) here: https://www.gmatprepnow.com/resources/practice-tests Cheers, Brent

Antartide · Answer

Thank you very much for your answers. I bought the official guide, do you suggest me to do the OG test instead of the CAT in order to "waste" it at the beginning of my preparation? Or is it better to do other tests (like the Kaplan you suggested me) instead of the OG?

EMPOWERgmatRichC · Answer

Hi Antartide,

Unfortunately, the Diagnostic Test at the beginning of the OG is not a great way to get a realistic assessment of an Official GMAT score. Relative to the Official GMAT, that Test does not have the same number of questions, the same ratio of questions, it doesn't adapt, it's missing the Essay and IR sections, etc. While it can help to define some of the areas that you need to work on, if your goal is to have a realistic assessment of how you might score on the Official GMAT, then the only way to get that result is to take a FULL-LENGTH CAT under realistic conditions.

The most realistic CATs on the market are the 4 GMAC CATs (the 2 free ones and the additional 2 that can be purchased). While there are other CATs that are 'close-enough', the reality of that initial CAT is important - since that score result provides a baseline and defines your initial strengths and weaknesses. In that way, having the MOST accurate initial assessment is important. To that end, you should also plan to take the FULL CAT (including the Essay and IR sections), so that we can see how you handle the endurance/fatigue 'challenges' of the Full Exam.

Some Test Takers become overly concerned about 'wasting' one of the GMAC CATs on the first attempt, but there are 3 other GMAC CATs and a variety of 3rd party CATs that you can use during the course of your studies, so that concern seems more emotional than practical.

1) What is your goal score?
2) When are you planning to take the GMAT?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

BrentGMATPrepNow · Answer

The diagnostic test in the Official Guide is a killer, and it has demoralized many students in the past. The test is useful to familiarize you with the types of questions found on the GMAT, but that's about it. I'd skip it and do a full-length test.

Cheers,
Brent

Cheers,
Brent

Antartide · Answer

Thank you again for your answers, I decided I will do the CAT test as you suggested

1) What is your goal score?  700 
2) When are you planning to take the GMAT?  End of March

EMPOWERgmatRichC · Answer

Hi Antartide,

That initial practice CAT results is important - it will give us a better sense of your current strengths and weaknesses. As such, if you can complete that CAT sometime soon (perhaps this weekend), and then report back here with your scores, then we can talk through your Study Plans. With an End of March Test Date, you have a little less than 3 months of study time available. While that might be enough time, you might actually need more time than that to hit your score goals. So some flexibility with your Test Date might be required.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

Antartide · Answer

Hi everybody, I did my diagnostic exam today and these are the results:

IR scaled score = 2 
IR percentile = 12

Q scaled score = 31
Q percentile = 26

V scaled score = 29
V percentile = 35

Total Score = 510
Percentile = 35

IR - 10 questions, 8 incorrect
Q - 37 questions, 17 incorrect
V - 41 questions, 13 incorrect

I am not really satisfied with my final result, but I have to admit that during the exam I expected a much lower score.

As you can see I have strong weaknesses in the first part and in the quant section.
The IR section was very difficult for me because, although knowing of its existence, I really did not know what it was about. In addition, I also did not have time to finish this section, and I did not complete the last four answers (which I know is very bad for the final score).

Regarding the quant section, I have never been very good at math. Indeed, I have always had problems even with the simplest calculations (I attribute this to the poor level of my middle school math teacher, but this is another story), and to be honest, at the end of the exam I expected a much lower score on this part.

Regarding the Verbal Section I expected a slightly better result but even this one (taking into consideration that this is my first attempt) is not so bad imo.

Now what is the problem? I have two months and half to prepare, I cannot move my exam because I need to send my applications during April. I read on other topics that it is possible to achieve a 700 score with a 500 starting score, but my question is: is this common? Or do only a very few amount of people succeed in doing so?

What do you think about this score and the number of wrong/right questions, do you need more data? If you think that it is possible to achieve a 700 with this starting score could you suggest me a study plan?

Thank you in advance

EMPOWERgmatRichC · Answer

Hi Antartide,

Since you're just starting out, a 510 is a decent 'baseline' CAT score (the average score on the Official GMAT hovers around 540-550 most years). Until you get a bit into your studies, we won't know exactly what you're capable of, but the immediate answer to your question is YES - lots of Test Takers are able to raise their scores 200 points over the course of about 3 months. The work will be challenging, and there will be a LOT of it, but each of the individual 'steps' you'll have to go through really isn't that difficult (you'll have to be consistent with your efforts though). Given your timeline and goal, you would likely benefit by investing in a GMAT Course of some type (either Guided Self-Study or instructor-led).

1) Have you purchased any materials yet?
2) Hypothetically-speaking, if you scored 650, then would you still apply to School as planned?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

Antartide · Answer

Thank you for your answer

1) Yes, the OG, do you suggest me to buy other books?
2) Yes, I want to send my applications to different schools (ESADE, Bocconi, HEC Paris, Rotterdam and others), in some of them it is possible to admitted with a 650

EMPOWERgmatRichC · Answer

Hi Antartide,

The OG is a great book for practice questions, but it's not designed to teach you Tactics, patterns or any of the little 'secrets' to the GMAT. Most GMAT Companies offer some type of free materials (practice problems, Trial Accounts, videos, etc.) that you can use to 'test out' a product before you buy it. We have a variety of those resources at our site (https://www.empowergmat.com). I suggest that you take advantage of all of them then choose the one(s) that best matches your personality, timeline and budget.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

Antartide · Answer

How much does a two-month course cost? Which typologies of courses there are? Are they live-sessions or videos?

I took the OG Diagnostic Test today, here are the results:

OG Diagnostic Test  (taken the day after the Cat Test)
 Problem Solving  - Average (13/24)
 Data Sufficiency  - Average (10/23)
 Reading Comprehension  - Above Average (15/17)
 Critical Reasoning  - Above Average (11/17)
 Sentence Correction  - Above Average (13/18)

As expected  PS  and  DS  (quants) are the parts in which I have to focus the most. There is no need to say that I also need to improve my  CR  skills. Regarding the  RC  questions (and, to a certain extent, the  SC  section) I am quite satisfied considering that English is not my first language and that I did not start studying yet.

Tomorrow I will start my preparation program on the OG, and in the next days I will buy the MGmat books.

ehoustman · Answer

Have you checked out Magoosh? They are an online course that provides tons of videos on every topic you need to know for the GMAT. I've been using them the last two weeks and I couldn't be happier with the organization and quality of the teaching. It only cost me $99 bucks too. I am using their 3-month plan, but you could easily condense it into two months if you need to. Check out this link: https://magoosh.com/gmat/gmat-study-schedule/ for their study plans.

BTW I feel like we are pretty similar as far as where we are in our test prep. I recently took the OG diagnostics test and had very similar results (though, I was a little weaker in the quant part than you). Feel free to reach out in a PM if you ever want to talk through things! I am not an expert by an means, but am always willing to collaborate and help out if I can! Good luck!

Antartide · Answer

Hi ehoustman, Magoos seems to be pretty interesting, I especially like the specific guidelines they give you each day. I will think about it

EMPOWERgmatRichC · Answer

Hi Antartide,

There are lots of different resources that you can use during the course of your studies, so a big part of the 'utility' of any resource is how well it meshes with your personality. I mentioned in a prior post how most GMAT Companies offer some type of free resources - you should investigate any and all that interest you and try them out. Based on your initial CAT score, timeline and score goal, you would likely benefit from investing in a GMAT Course of some type (either Guided Self-Study or instructor-led).

If you have any additional questions, then you can feel free to contact me directly.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

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