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29 Jun 2006, 11:41
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Hi All
Unfortunatelly I took the test few days a go and I got a 490 (Q33 V24), I do not know how that happened I tought to be at a higher level on both sections but instead tose where the results.... I should have planned my study for a longer period rather than for just a month considering that I am a non native speaker (I am Italian) and currently in a non english speaking country. I do not really know what to do now, before the test I just studied on the books, but I did not had the time to go over the OG considering that I have the 11th OG the verbal and the Quantitative one neither I took the powerprep or the GMAT prep tests or any CAT test available to me. For sure from now on I will activelly participate to this site but I need suggestion on how I can organize my study material that is the following:
OG 11, the Verbal and Quantitative
Princeton 2006
Kaplan Math work book
Kaplan 800
Kaplan Verbal
the 9 paper ETS test
project GMAT (book that wasnt touched)
5 MGMAT books (not The equations one)
Arco Master GMAT 2006
GRE / GMAT Math Review ARCO
1000 CR, SC RC, DS, PS
Kaplan Power
CR Powerscore bible
Basically I have overseen the material but I couldn't get deep into it I did not took any of the CAT or internet tets of the listed material.
My point is can I reach by the end of August (a bit less than 2 months from now) a score in the 600-650 range (considering that I have to study only for this test) and how I should use all the listed material......
Ah by they way I want to give a suggestion, do not schedule your test in the Rome testing center, my appointment was scheduled at 9 am and they showed up at 9:15 I was about to freak out I was the only test taker that day, there was no air conditioning in the testing room and I leave to your immagination how hot and Humid can be Rome during summer, the only positive thing is that insted of the erasing bord they gave to me paper and pencil telling me that is a measure adopted in order to help the left handed test takers, even if they go against the pearson vue rules, they had complaints from the past test takers
thanks a lot for your suggestions
Unfortunatelly I took the test few days a go and I got a 490 (Q33 V24), I do not know how that happened I tought to be at a higher level on both sections but instead tose where the results.... I should have planned my study for a longer period rather than for just a month considering that I am a non native speaker (I am Italian) and currently in a non english speaking country. I do not really know what to do now, before the test I just studied on the books, but I did not had the time to go over the OG considering that I have the 11th OG the verbal and the Quantitative one neither I took the powerprep or the GMAT prep tests or any CAT test available to me. For sure from now on I will activelly participate to this site but I need suggestion on how I can organize my study material that is the following:
OG 11, the Verbal and Quantitative
Princeton 2006
Kaplan Math work book
Kaplan 800
Kaplan Verbal
the 9 paper ETS test
project GMAT (book that wasnt touched)
5 MGMAT books (not The equations one)
Arco Master GMAT 2006
GRE / GMAT Math Review ARCO
1000 CR, SC RC, DS, PS
Kaplan Power
CR Powerscore bible
Basically I have overseen the material but I couldn't get deep into it I did not took any of the CAT or internet tets of the listed material.
My point is can I reach by the end of August (a bit less than 2 months from now) a score in the 600-650 range (considering that I have to study only for this test) and how I should use all the listed material......
Ah by they way I want to give a suggestion, do not schedule your test in the Rome testing center, my appointment was scheduled at 9 am and they showed up at 9:15 I was about to freak out I was the only test taker that day, there was no air conditioning in the testing room and I leave to your immagination how hot and Humid can be Rome during summer, the only positive thing is that insted of the erasing bord they gave to me paper and pencil telling me that is a measure adopted in order to help the left handed test takers, even if they go against the pearson vue rules, they had complaints from the past test takers
thanks a lot for your suggestions
29 Jun 2006, 12:50
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1 month... non-speaking english country... non-native speaker... grasping fundumentals from bunch of books... not practicing GMATPrep or PowerPrep...
should I go on? IMO this is a definite recipe for disaster
if you are taking this seriously you have to completely change your strategy to succeed the 2nd time around...
I am in at least 1 of your shoes, because I am in a speaking-english country, yet I am ESL as well and had the same verbal score and overall score of 500... the good news is that you spent only 1 month to achieve it... I had the same strategy but it took me longer than that... conclusion: you aren't doing so bad considering your circumstances!!! so first of all... congrats... people score lower than you, so don't be upset...
now to you strategy... others might give you better advice, but I suggest you focus on fundumentals and the OG first, since you already know basics about GMAT (sections, time, types of questions, etc)
1) if you need to brush up on fundumentals/strategies use the basic math material (MGMATs, Kaplan Math Workbook, Arco Math for GMAT/GRE)
From these I would really focus on the 1st two... and I practiced with all of those at different stages of studying)
2) After getting down you fundumentals with math, do all the problems in OG 11 (the thick one with 800 questions, save the 2 reviews for the last couple of weeks before the test) Diligently go over *EVERY* problem and *EVERY* choice (right/wrong) to make sure you know how you arrived to the answer and why others are wrong!!! I can't stress "every* part enough... hope you get an idea!
3) Verbal is HARD to improve, but I believe it is possible. CRs and RCs require practice, in my opinion, and same strategy here "GO OVER EVERY ANSWER CHOICE" especially in CR and understand why the wrong ones are wrong... I was able to improve my logic quite dramatically after A LOT of practicing CRs... RC might be tough... I can't say anything about it yet, as I am struggling with it as well... SC, often said, easiest to improve, but you definitely need MGMAT here and sleep on it every day!!!
4) start taking CATs after you nail fundumentals, don't waste those, especially GMATPrep and PowerPrep... beware that those overlap with OG and your 9 paper tests!
5) try to identify your weakest links while doing all of this... error log, patterns, do whatever suits you, but this part is crucial... first find the general parts of the test that you think you are weak at (PS, DS, RC, SC or CRs), then zoom in on the type of questions (PS: algebra, geometry, etc... DS: number properties, equalities, etc... CRs: inference, weaken, etc... and so on) for that you have to know the types of questions and be able to quickly identify those upon reading the question first...
I don't know what else to tell you for now, but the most important point of all mentioned above is KEEP A POSITIVE ATTITUDE... don't let the 1st attempt drown you... take it as a base and keep on climbing up!!! And be sure that there is someone else on another continent doing the same thing as you are doing. And under any circumstances DON'T GIVE UP!!!
Last, but not least, stick around this club... you will get some great tips about how to go about your prep... you might hear a lot of opinions, but choose to follow the one that suits you the most and one that you see improvement from... you need a lot of dedication and discipline to do this, so train yourself...
Sincerely, GOOD LUCK and I hope to see you around.
PS one last point... you might consider reading some english material like The Economist, WSJ or Scientific American, since you don't speak english on a daily basis... I can imagine how hard it is to study in english, when someone walks in and speaks another language to you...
should I go on? IMO this is a definite recipe for disaster
if you are taking this seriously you have to completely change your strategy to succeed the 2nd time around...
I am in at least 1 of your shoes, because I am in a speaking-english country, yet I am ESL as well and had the same verbal score and overall score of 500... the good news is that you spent only 1 month to achieve it... I had the same strategy but it took me longer than that... conclusion: you aren't doing so bad considering your circumstances!!! so first of all... congrats... people score lower than you, so don't be upset...
now to you strategy... others might give you better advice, but I suggest you focus on fundumentals and the OG first, since you already know basics about GMAT (sections, time, types of questions, etc)
1) if you need to brush up on fundumentals/strategies use the basic math material (MGMATs, Kaplan Math Workbook, Arco Math for GMAT/GRE)
From these I would really focus on the 1st two... and I practiced with all of those at different stages of studying)
2) After getting down you fundumentals with math, do all the problems in OG 11 (the thick one with 800 questions, save the 2 reviews for the last couple of weeks before the test) Diligently go over *EVERY* problem and *EVERY* choice (right/wrong) to make sure you know how you arrived to the answer and why others are wrong!!! I can't stress "every* part enough... hope you get an idea!
3) Verbal is HARD to improve, but I believe it is possible. CRs and RCs require practice, in my opinion, and same strategy here "GO OVER EVERY ANSWER CHOICE" especially in CR and understand why the wrong ones are wrong... I was able to improve my logic quite dramatically after A LOT of practicing CRs... RC might be tough... I can't say anything about it yet, as I am struggling with it as well... SC, often said, easiest to improve, but you definitely need MGMAT here and sleep on it every day!!!
4) start taking CATs after you nail fundumentals, don't waste those, especially GMATPrep and PowerPrep... beware that those overlap with OG and your 9 paper tests!
5) try to identify your weakest links while doing all of this... error log, patterns, do whatever suits you, but this part is crucial... first find the general parts of the test that you think you are weak at (PS, DS, RC, SC or CRs), then zoom in on the type of questions (PS: algebra, geometry, etc... DS: number properties, equalities, etc... CRs: inference, weaken, etc... and so on) for that you have to know the types of questions and be able to quickly identify those upon reading the question first...
I don't know what else to tell you for now, but the most important point of all mentioned above is KEEP A POSITIVE ATTITUDE... don't let the 1st attempt drown you... take it as a base and keep on climbing up!!! And be sure that there is someone else on another continent doing the same thing as you are doing. And under any circumstances DON'T GIVE UP!!!
Last, but not least, stick around this club... you will get some great tips about how to go about your prep... you might hear a lot of opinions, but choose to follow the one that suits you the most and one that you see improvement from... you need a lot of dedication and discipline to do this, so train yourself...
Sincerely, GOOD LUCK and I hope to see you around.
PS one last point... you might consider reading some english material like The Economist, WSJ or Scientific American, since you don't speak english on a daily basis... I can imagine how hard it is to study in english, when someone walks in and speaks another language to you...
29 Jun 2006, 14:27
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l'esame e difficile, pero, per la tua prima volta, francamente, con solo un mese di studio... mica tanto male.
Siamo tutti qui per aiutarti!
Sto per uscire a prendermi un a birra, quando torno, se non sono troppo sfasciato, rispondo con un messago per bene.
A dopo...
Non ti preoccupare - vedrai - ce la farai!
A proposito, .... sensa aria condizionata? A roma? In Luglio? Porca troya!!
English translation:
Not bad really considering, we are all here to help, I am going out for a beer, and I'll write more when I get back, assuming im not totally hosed. Don't worry, you'll see - you will make it. Also, no air conditioning? In rome? In June? Holy crap.
Siamo tutti qui per aiutarti!
Sto per uscire a prendermi un a birra, quando torno, se non sono troppo sfasciato, rispondo con un messago per bene.
A dopo...
Non ti preoccupare - vedrai - ce la farai!
A proposito, .... sensa aria condizionata? A roma? In Luglio? Porca troya!!
English translation:
Not bad really considering, we are all here to help, I am going out for a beer, and I'll write more when I get back, assuming im not totally hosed. Don't worry, you'll see - you will make it. Also, no air conditioning? In rome? In June? Holy crap.
It's about time you stop partying, didn't you finish you GMAT studies a month ago? 
