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20 Jul 2012, 23:52
Hi bb,

I am in desperate need of your help.

I have been preparing for GMAT for the past 6 months and my focus was primarily was to just improve the verbal score.
I gave the diagnostic test in january and score Q50/V21.

So, my target was to improve the verbal to 35-40 range and hit my target score of 700+.
I prepared for 6 months and improved decently well using MGMAT tests and various other sources, but today I gave my GMAT and scored a dismal 16 on verbal (although I was able to hit 50 in Quant).

I was scoring in the range of 32-39 in MGMAT tests and did many GMAT Club tests and was feeling confident of at least scoring 35 in verbal .

Please let me know what should I do to improve my verbal score to somewhere around 36-39 in GMAT exam in a 30-40 days
I am planning to take GMAT again in Aug end or Sep beginning.
Please help me with the course of action I should take to improve the score, as I have already exhausted all the tests of MGMAT…What should I do to check my progress.
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21 Jul 2012, 02:38
Verbal score cannot be improved in such a short time. If you are targeting V35 in actual test then you should have scored atleast V40 in GMATPrep before you take the test and this is a must for you since you are already close to maximum in quant. You have already taken gmat so please wait for a while until you are confident. You will be wasting an attempt, it will be looked upon badly if you take many attempts in such a short time without any considerable improvement.

Find know how many mistakes you make in each CR, RC, SC.
Find your weakest among the three and which you can improve in short time.
Find which topics you are making more mistakes not just SC, CR or RC, but as in Tenses in SC, main idea in RC, Bold face in CR. You need to get down to topic level.

700 scorers know where they are weak, where they are strong, they know when to guess and when to wait and make it right. The difference between a 700 scorer and a 600 scorer is a 700 scorer will be able to finish first 8 - 10 questions in less time with less or no mistakes and move on to 750 range sooner whereas a 600 scorer will take more time and more mistakes and move on to 700 at the end. There is no way you can reduce the time or mistakes without improving your conceptual knowledge.

Practice 3 RCs a day. Stick to OG materials. If you are in short of materials search for OG 10 in the net. It has got many questions which you can use for a month. Watch thursday's with Ron videos on RC. Knowing is not enough, you must apply the technique and practice every day. RC is one of the toughest and scoring section in verbal. Anything more 4 mistakes, then you haven't understood the passage and making more continuous mistakes which pulls down your score to where you have started. If you get a CR or SC question wrong you can make it up in the next question, but without cracking RC you are getting back to where you start. So work on this. Practice this for 2 months and you will see tremendous improvement in your RC. Understand the pattern in which the questions and answers are framed. Look for similarity among questions of same type. If you have solved 15 RC passages, go over all the inference questions alone in all the 15 passages and try to find something similar. That will help you crack RCs easily. Taking notes, mental map, STOP methodology are different strategies available for RC - If one strategy is not working, go for another or come up with anything that suits you.

For CR, try powerscore or MGMAT and concentrate more on the most tested concepts - strengthen, weaken, find the conclusion, assumption. Try to use POE and take notes while working with CR problems. Try prephrasing, its very helpful in answering. Always in verbal never try to find the right answer, but eliminate the wrong answer. So your skill lies in eliminating the answers and that will improve only if you start learning the proper reasons or some common techniques. Always try this for CR questions.

For SC, MGMAT guide is the best, read it through and start answering question available to you - find every mistake in every choice - for every mistake recheck the book for an explanation or search through the forums for expert replies. Try to solve more and get used to it.

For verbal part, make use of the scratch pad as much as possible to keep you engaged with the test. For RC take notes for every paragraph. For CRs write down premises and conc. It will take time initially but you can improve speed with practice. Eliminate answer choices in scratch pad and not in mind. Do not try to find the right answer but try to learn to eliminate wrong answers in verbal part.

Practice in timed manner.
Solving = timed
Reviewing = untimed - there is nothing wrong even if you have solved only 5 questions, but have reviewed for 50 mins. You will be learning the concepts or looking for ways where you can apply it on other questions. So its more about quality than quantity.

Hope this helps !!
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21 Jul 2012, 05:30
msvel2304 wrote:
Verbal score cannot be improved in such a short time. If you are targeting V35 in actual test then you should have scored atleast V40 in GMATPrep before you take the test and this is a must for you since you are already close to maximum in quant. You have already taken gmat so please wait for a while until you are confident. You will be wasting an attempt, it will be looked upon badly if you take many attempts in such a short time without any considerable improvement.

That's a really sound advice...but sorry to say, this is not what I have not heard yet.
What you have mentioned, I have followed all....I am actually looking for someone who is an instructor and know what mistake out of ordinary you do in real exam...

Just for the info...here are past few test scores of MGMAT - 720(Q49,V39),700(Q51,V35),690(Q51,V34),680(Q50,V34)...

and the sources you have mentioned, I have already exhausted...

I am looking for some expert advice or I do not need any advice at all...it is just the exam pressure which got into me or was it a really bad day....

Ya, my RC is not that good...but ya, my CR and SC was decent enough with an accuracy of 80 for SC and 85-90 for CR....

I hope now you can understand what is the situation really....
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21 Jul 2012, 06:27
rahulsukhija wrote:
That's a really sound advice...but sorry to say, this is not what I have not heard yet.
What you have mentioned, I have followed all....I am actually looking for someone who is an instructor and know what mistake out of ordinary you do in real exam...

Just for the info...here are past few test scores of MGMAT - 720(Q49,V39),700(Q51,V35),690(Q51,V34),680(Q50,V34)...

So much for the long post and you have followed all What about your GMATPrep scores ? MGMAT scores are close to GMATPrep, but they are quite unreliable when it comes to verbal. My mock scores never went beyond 30 in MGMAT verbal and I never crossed a 640, but I managed to score a 680 and a 35 in verbal. Have a look at my mock scores here.

http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/680 ... 15975.html

Did you take all the mocks in official conditions as in with Awa/IR 8 min break quant 8 min break verbal ?

rahulsukhija wrote:
and the sources you have mentioned, I have already exhausted...

Just because you solved it two or three times doesn't mean that you have exhausted everything. I am looking for a retake and I still use the same resources to learn, so you can do it as well. Take a CR and try to eliminate the options based on a reason, try to figure what that option does to the argument - strengthens, weakens, if it is irrelevant/OOS how can it be made relevant to the question - changing some words can do it.

rahulsukhija wrote:
I am looking for some expert advice or I do not need any advice at all...it is just the exam pressure which got into me or was it a really bad day....

Exam pressure is common for everybody, very few people exceed their mock scores. All you can do is be well prepared and confident. You should ideally know that this answer choice is definitely right or the other options are definitely wrong- that's where a 700 scorer gains advantage. If you still go wrong - then there is something that needs to be addressed. Its a learning process, so find out how to get better. You have to look out for different strategies that people have tried or come up with the one that gives you great speed and accuracy. If you can't figure it out yourself, then private tutoring may probably help you or other experts here.

rahulsukhija wrote:
Ya, my RC is not that good...but ya, my CR and SC was decent enough with an accuracy of 80 for SC and 85-90 for CR....

How did you gauge this accuracy ? From OG, if so then they are arranged in the order of difficulty and the overall accuracy here is of no use. Infact many agree that very few OG questions are available that are at 700 level.

rahulsukhija wrote:
I hope now you can understand what is the situation really....

I understand your situation very well, because I have crossed this stage. My previous GMAT attempt was a 530 Q42 V20. And that's why I stress the importance of learning everything in a different manner.
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