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Anonamy
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Schools: Rotman '17 (A)
GMAT 1: 710 Q44 V42
08 Jan 2016, 15:30
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Hello GMAT experts!
I recently took the GMAT and scored Q44 and V42 (710). I'll be rewriting to bring up my quant.
I have two questions -
1. I read someone post here that when you retake the GMAT, if your IR and AWA scores are higher in the second test but your quant and verbal are lower, that the GMAC will accept the higher IR and AWA scores and combine those with the highest quant and verbal scores. This seems far too good to be true... Is this the case?
2. My quant scores on official practice tests have ranged from 52 (2 months ago) to most recently 78 (2 days before the test). I botched my IR and quant on test day because my practice score wasn't consistent to the point where I could preform reliably in new surroundings. I have read Manhattan foundations and all the quant Manhattan books, and have completed the Kaplan workbook and the official guide drills. I'm very comfortable with the content in the Manhattan guides, but it seemed like there was material on the actual GMAT that wasn't covered in those books. I've occasionally drilled on the gmatclub site but I find it tough to learn from people's responses. What recommendations might you have for improving my quant?
Thank you kindly for any advice you might have.
I recently took the GMAT and scored Q44 and V42 (710). I'll be rewriting to bring up my quant.
I have two questions -
1. I read someone post here that when you retake the GMAT, if your IR and AWA scores are higher in the second test but your quant and verbal are lower, that the GMAC will accept the higher IR and AWA scores and combine those with the highest quant and verbal scores. This seems far too good to be true... Is this the case?
2. My quant scores on official practice tests have ranged from 52 (2 months ago) to most recently 78 (2 days before the test). I botched my IR and quant on test day because my practice score wasn't consistent to the point where I could preform reliably in new surroundings. I have read Manhattan foundations and all the quant Manhattan books, and have completed the Kaplan workbook and the official guide drills. I'm very comfortable with the content in the Manhattan guides, but it seemed like there was material on the actual GMAT that wasn't covered in those books. I've occasionally drilled on the gmatclub site but I find it tough to learn from people's responses. What recommendations might you have for improving my quant?
Thank you kindly for any advice you might have.
08 Jan 2016, 16:01
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Hi Anonamy,
First off, a 710 is an outstanding score (it's right around the 90th percentile overall), so you should apply to any Business Schools that interest you. As such, a retest is probably not necessary. While a Q44 won't impress anyone, unless you're planning to apply to a highly competitive Finance Program or other Specialty Program, then the Q44 likely won't hurt your applications.
1) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
2) When are you planning to apply?
In answer to your questions:
1) Each of your Official GMAT results is it's own result - none of the 'pieces' gets combined with 'pieces' from other Tests. Could you list where you actually read about that claim? If you submit more than one score to a Business School, then that School's Admissions Officers MIGHT take the best pieces from each of your scores, but that is not something that you can count on.
2) When you say "Quant scores", I assume that you mean the Quant PERCENTILES. Unfortunately, percentiles vary from CAT to CAT (and even to the Official GMAT), so those results can be 'biased' based on who took each of those Exams. The Scaled Scores from those CATs are more meaningful (from a data standpoint) since they can help to define what you should be working to improve.
With a Q44, you were likely great at the 'math' prompts that you faced, but you missed out on many of the 'strategy-based' questions, so if you do insist on retesting, then a focus on Tactics and some new practice materials would likely be helpful.
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
First off, a 710 is an outstanding score (it's right around the 90th percentile overall), so you should apply to any Business Schools that interest you. As such, a retest is probably not necessary. While a Q44 won't impress anyone, unless you're planning to apply to a highly competitive Finance Program or other Specialty Program, then the Q44 likely won't hurt your applications.
1) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
2) When are you planning to apply?
In answer to your questions:
1) Each of your Official GMAT results is it's own result - none of the 'pieces' gets combined with 'pieces' from other Tests. Could you list where you actually read about that claim? If you submit more than one score to a Business School, then that School's Admissions Officers MIGHT take the best pieces from each of your scores, but that is not something that you can count on.
2) When you say "Quant scores", I assume that you mean the Quant PERCENTILES. Unfortunately, percentiles vary from CAT to CAT (and even to the Official GMAT), so those results can be 'biased' based on who took each of those Exams. The Scaled Scores from those CATs are more meaningful (from a data standpoint) since they can help to define what you should be working to improve.
With a Q44, you were likely great at the 'math' prompts that you faced, but you missed out on many of the 'strategy-based' questions, so if you do insist on retesting, then a focus on Tactics and some new practice materials would likely be helpful.
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Anonamy
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Schools: Rotman '17 (A)
GMAT 1: 710 Q44 V42
08 Jan 2016, 16:22
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Hi Rich,
Thank you very much for the in-depth response, much appreciated. Regarding my quant score, I should let you know about why I believe it's so important to my application - Bryant from Veritas and I have been discussing that here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/710-q44-v42-very-nontraditional-applicant-your-advice-please-211530.html#p1627949 I would be applying as a mature student so the GMAT will be the only indication of my aptitude for quant.
On this subject, I'm curious - have you heard any stories from folks who were successfully admitted as mature applicants? If so do you still think that a retake isn't necessary? I would love to be done with the GMAT.
Schulich is my top pick because it is the only Canadian school that offers a nonprofit specialization, however I also plan on applying to Ivy, Rotman, possibly Laurier, Queens, and Ted Rogers so that I don't put all my eggs in one basket. I'm planning on putting applications out as soon as I can compile them. Because I'm applying to a number of schools application deadlines are all over the place, and many of these schools have multiple intake dates.
Your quant score is amazing. Do you have any advice on good strategy-related materials? I'm trying to avoid a tutor if possible.
About that claim about scores being pieced together, I don't remember where the post was. It was another GMAT hopeful who'd mentioned it here. In a perfect world...
Thank you very much for the in-depth response, much appreciated. Regarding my quant score, I should let you know about why I believe it's so important to my application - Bryant from Veritas and I have been discussing that here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/710-q44-v42-very-nontraditional-applicant-your-advice-please-211530.html#p1627949 I would be applying as a mature student so the GMAT will be the only indication of my aptitude for quant.
On this subject, I'm curious - have you heard any stories from folks who were successfully admitted as mature applicants? If so do you still think that a retake isn't necessary? I would love to be done with the GMAT.
Schulich is my top pick because it is the only Canadian school that offers a nonprofit specialization, however I also plan on applying to Ivy, Rotman, possibly Laurier, Queens, and Ted Rogers so that I don't put all my eggs in one basket. I'm planning on putting applications out as soon as I can compile them. Because I'm applying to a number of schools application deadlines are all over the place, and many of these schools have multiple intake dates.
Your quant score is amazing. Do you have any advice on good strategy-related materials? I'm trying to avoid a tutor if possible.
About that claim about scores being pieced together, I don't remember where the post was. It was another GMAT hopeful who'd mentioned it here. In a perfect world...
