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14 Mar 2021, 13:55
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Hi! I finished the 9 week course with Manhattan Prep. I have been studying every day for 2-3 hours, keeping an error log, and have read through all the Manhattan Prep guides. On my first Manhattan Prep CAT, I scored 550. Then I went up to 590, and my last Manhattan Prep CAT was 620 (42Q, 33 V). I heard from many people that Manhattan Prep was harder so I took the GMAT Prep exam today. I only scored a 640. I got more questions right, had less wrong in a row, and still only got a 640 (40Q, 38V). At this point I'm very confused because I've been doing all the prep that I've been told to do and I just don't get what the problem is. My teacher said that you can even miss 11 question and get 700+ and I literally missed 12 in the quant. I felt the GMAT Prep exam was not only easier, I felt more confident. I see all these posts about people doing Manhattan Prep and then scoring 730 and I've been doing all the practice and studying and don't see the results. Did anyone else see any score discrepancies? What about experiences with Manhattan Prep?> >
14 Mar 2021, 16:25
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Hi. Welcome to GMAT Club.
The score you get depends on where are you start and how much you improve. Obviously, some starting positions are easier to improve than others and some people start a lot higher another is a lot lower, but On average, Manhattan GMAT course results into about 120 points of improvement. So if you started at 550 (which by the way is about 50th percentile on the GMAT) with the average amount of effort, you should’ve scored 670.
Putting in additional effort such as chasing every question you get wrong and making sure you address your weaknesses, you can improve about 200 points. It is rather hard to improve more than 200 points though you don’t need to go there. Actually, you didn’t really mention what score you were looking for.
Have you worked on the questions in the official guide? I assume so since the books used to depend on those questions but asking just in case since you didn’t reference them.
It is hard to judge performance based on the number of right or wrong answers. You can definitely miss a third of the questions and still get a good score but the sequence of those mistakes matters a lot. Obviously GMAT is an adaptive test and it changes the question difficulty as you progress and if you make a bunch of mistakes upfront, you’ll never dig out from the hole. If you were curious about number of mistakes you can make, we’ve read a whole bunch of experiments and GMAT prep software but I honestly wouldn’t worry too much about that one.
I am rambling here a little but, in general the score depends on how much you know the material, your ability to follow strategies, and timing. You have to balance the three and they have to work together to result in to the best score doing just one, is not optimal.
If you’re looking to bump up your score which your post sounds like that, your croissant is where you need to put most of your effort. I would say 80% of your effort should go onto Quant since most business calls or skeptical about applicants with Quant below 44 or 45. Your Q 40 indicates some discomfort with math. It seems you can get some quick wins there within a few weeks...
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The score you get depends on where are you start and how much you improve. Obviously, some starting positions are easier to improve than others and some people start a lot higher another is a lot lower, but On average, Manhattan GMAT course results into about 120 points of improvement. So if you started at 550 (which by the way is about 50th percentile on the GMAT) with the average amount of effort, you should’ve scored 670.
Putting in additional effort such as chasing every question you get wrong and making sure you address your weaknesses, you can improve about 200 points. It is rather hard to improve more than 200 points though you don’t need to go there. Actually, you didn’t really mention what score you were looking for.
Have you worked on the questions in the official guide? I assume so since the books used to depend on those questions but asking just in case since you didn’t reference them.
It is hard to judge performance based on the number of right or wrong answers. You can definitely miss a third of the questions and still get a good score but the sequence of those mistakes matters a lot. Obviously GMAT is an adaptive test and it changes the question difficulty as you progress and if you make a bunch of mistakes upfront, you’ll never dig out from the hole. If you were curious about number of mistakes you can make, we’ve read a whole bunch of experiments and GMAT prep software but I honestly wouldn’t worry too much about that one.
I am rambling here a little but, in general the score depends on how much you know the material, your ability to follow strategies, and timing. You have to balance the three and they have to work together to result in to the best score doing just one, is not optimal.
If you’re looking to bump up your score which your post sounds like that, your croissant is where you need to put most of your effort. I would say 80% of your effort should go onto Quant since most business calls or skeptical about applicants with Quant below 44 or 45. Your Q 40 indicates some discomfort with math. It seems you can get some quick wins there within a few weeks...
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14 Mar 2021, 20:03
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Hi PigsFly2020,
To start, raising a 550 to a 640 in about 2 months is a great improvement. Many GMATers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so there's a reasonable chance that you'll continue to improve as you continue to study (and to address your immediate questions: you haven't put in enough time and effort YET to have honed all of the necessary skills needed to score higher).
Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
Studies:
1) Have you used any other study materials besides the course that you mentioned?
2) On what dates (or approximate dates) did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
Goals:
3) What is your overall goal score?
4) When are you planning to apply to Business School and what Schools are you planning to apply to?
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
To start, raising a 550 to a 640 in about 2 months is a great improvement. Many GMATers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so there's a reasonable chance that you'll continue to improve as you continue to study (and to address your immediate questions: you haven't put in enough time and effort YET to have honed all of the necessary skills needed to score higher).
Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
Studies:
1) Have you used any other study materials besides the course that you mentioned?
2) On what dates (or approximate dates) did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
Goals:
3) What is your overall goal score?
4) When are you planning to apply to Business School and what Schools are you planning to apply to?
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
