GSB Decisions: T minus, 7 days. (If you want to add your profile info, just post and I'll edit - might be interesting to know when the decisions flow in) THE R1 TEAM (9) - THE BLUE TEAM ---------------------------------------- ceglar: 740, 3.1, 4years experience at matriculation. DINGED (full time) jaynayak: 740 GMAT, ~3.0 GPA, 4 years exp, Indian IT, 1 US and 1 Canadian rec, DINGED (full time) Lich: ?????? unknown stats DINGED (full time) rhyme: 730 GMAT, ~3.0 GPA, 5 years exp, ADMITTED (full time) lhmcjen: 710 GMAT, 2.9 GPA, 6yrs WE in Marine Infantry ADMITTED (Part time Program) naturallight: 730 GMAT, 3.6 GPA, 5 years exp in operations at investment firm, CFA, both recs are non-alumni, bad interview, campus visit WAITLIST (full time) helg: Russian, 730 GMAT; GPA ~4.9/5.0 (top Russian university); 7 years supply chain mgnt, incl. 1 yr intl exp, WAITLIST (full time) Hindustan: 730, 7yrs exp, 3.35 GPA triple major (!!), strong recos DINGED (full time) flapjack: , ???? WAITLIST (full time) THE R2 TEAM (9) - THE RED TEAM --------------------------------------- homefry Sadly dinged pelihu: 780 GMAT, 2.9 GPA, JD Michigan Law, 4 yrs entrepreneur, 2 years finance/securities lawyer, Sadly dinged saturnring11 , Sadly dinged fluffydot 720 GMAT, 3.0/4yrs, Sadly dinged sgrover , Sadly dinged nsentra , unknown stats, interview for R2 Sadly dinged (post interview) dukes 750/>3.0/4 yrs consulting; interview for R2 WAITLIST (full time) 3underscore : 680, GPA??? (UK - 1st Class Honours, Top10 school), 28M British, 5.5 Years working experience (Market Risk, Banking) Sadly dinged (post interview) GMATcram : UNKNOWN STATS, ADMITTED (FULL TIME) jchen1731 " UNKNOWN STATS, UNKNOWN STATUS world464 : UNKNOWN STATS, UNKNOWN STATUS gmatclb : UNKNOWN STATS, R2 applicant WAITLIST (full time) cappy : 700 GMAT, 3.1, 4YRS medical device sales, ... ADMITTED (FULL TIME) lxa: 750 GMAT, 3.9 GPA, just graduated recently but worked in family business in poland ADMITTED (FULL TIME) 09App: .. 770 gmat, 2.9 undergrad, 3.5 grad, 6 year WE, mix of engineering and consulting ADMITTED (FULL TIME) little.nemo: ... ???? ... ADMITTED (FULL TIME) yb: 730/4.0 (!) /2.5 years valuation/forensic accounting background ... ADMITTED (FULL TIME) cmns18 : 710 3.95, 3 years NPO, co-authored article on HIV/AIDS politics ADMITTED (FULL TIME) Estimated odds: ------------------ Roughly speaking, it was estimated in some other thread I cant find right now that approx 50% of the those interviewed will get an offer. The blue team's expected yield is thus 4 accepts.

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Hey, thanks guys. You are totally right that having the Columbia interview certainly softens the blow. Chicago is a top school (obviously) that would do wonders for anyone's career, but the city of Chicago never really topped my list from a personal standpoint. I wish everyone luck. I'm sure there will be some good news this round.

I am surprised, to say at least, that you were dinged in GSB without even an interview

Hoped to see you there next year... Wish you best of luck with you Columbia interview! Ace it!

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have you been accepted to GSB? you were on waitlist correct.. sorry if i missed that.. all the best!

thanks, willget800!

am still on WL in GSB and working hard to change my status (coupla updates submitted as well as some extra recos)

looking forward for the R2 decisions release deadline

couple of updates AND a couple of recos?

Uh-huh. Two updates so far, third to come by the deadline - 5 March. Thought that more than 3 updates in little over than 2 months would be excessive.
As for the recos - it's good to have as much as you can (of decent if not superb quality of course!). Two were already submitted and two more still to come.

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Seems like a bit much to me, but if nothing else, you are definetly proving you want it.

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Seems like a bit much to me, but if nothing else, you are definetly proving you want it.

"The 9 Mistakes You Do Not Want To Make On An MBA Waitlist" suggests reminding the school of your existence every 2-3 weeks.

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Seems like a bit much to me, but if nothing else, you are definetly proving you want it.

"The 9 Mistakes You Do Not Want To Make On An MBA Waitlist" suggests reminding the school of your existence every 2-3 weeks.

Well there goes my Kellogg waitlist then!

Not that I'm really holding out anymore.

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Seems like a bit much to me, but if nothing else, you are definetly proving you want it.

"The 9 Mistakes You Do Not Want To Make On An MBA Waitlist" suggests reminding the school of your existence every 2-3 weeks.

Well there goes my Kellogg waitlist then!

Not that I'm really holding out anymore.

Frankly, I was surprised they did not offer you full scholarship :lol:

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What are the other 8 mistakes you don't want to make?

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What are the other 8 mistakes you don't want to make?

Am not sure if I can post copyrighted material here :lol:

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Naw, Pelihu tells me it's ok to post summaries and the like, as long as you're not making money. And it's always nice to cite the source. So do it

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OK, so here are the 9 mistakes you don't want to make on an MBA waitlist from "The Nine Mistakes You Don't Want to Make on an MBA Waitlist" by Linda Abraham, founder and president of Accepted.com:

1. Ignore the instructions given to you by the school in the waitlist notice or in further correspondence
2. Be modest about your recent achievements (In Russia we say 'Modesty adornes you, when there's nothing else to adorn you'

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3. Hide your genuine interest in the school
4. Don't seek expressions of support from third parties
5. Plan a one-time deluge of correspondence
6. Fail to assess reasons for being waitlisted or act on an assessment
7. Complain to the school about the agony of being waitlisted
8. Provide excessive apologies or express regret about weaknesses/mistakes
9. Play schools against each other

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Whoops.

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Whoops.

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Whoops.

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9. Play schools against each other

Whoops.

Nooooo... You did not, did you?

Well, as for mistake number nine, it is still acceptable to make a polite phone call to a school where you are waitlisted syaing:
- it is the deadline for submitting a deposit in school X where I was accepted in two days, but I would really love to attend YOUR school rather than X, but teh deposit is a considerable amount of money for me so could you be so kind as to check once again my waitlist status?

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On those extra recs for gsb, did you mail them in, or were you able to add another recommender through the online app?

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I don't know that I agree with the recommendation of sending new correspondence every 2-3 weeks. I had people tell me not to do that and that by doing so you run the risk of annoying the Admissions people. I heard that it was better to send correpsondence every 4-6 weeks while on the Wait List.

If you send a letter every 2-3 weeks I would bet that a lot of the information you mention is redundant with what you've already mentioned in your essays, interview, and previous correspondence.

I don't know if it is true, but I heard that because the GSB is not going to review your application until all of the second round applications have been submitted, they'll end up looking at all of the correspondence you sent at once.

Moreover, because the Chicago GSB won't give you any feedback as to why they put you on the WaitList in the first place, how can you know what to emphasize?

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I'm going to have a phone interview with a Director of Admission of GSB tomorrow. Could anyone please share with me the questions you got during your interview?

By the way, here are my stats:

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- 5yrs experience (finance consulting) up to now
- GMAT 680, GPA ~ 3.0

Got interview invitation of Wharton and Chicago GSB.

why gsb
why mba
short term goal
long term goal

I was not asked any of those questions. The interviewer just went thru my resume and asked me whether I did this, did that, and I just said yes, yes. Then some questions to dig deeper in the resumes, and some probe up questions based on what I answered...

Thanks for your suggestion anyway.

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On those extra recs for gsb, did you mail them in, or were you able to add another recommender through the online app?

No, it is not possible to add anything to your submitted online app. All extra recos went by mail.

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By "new correspondence" everything that is related top your app is meant - not only your own updates but also additional recos. I would agree with you that you should not send update letters as such that often. One letter in 1 to 1.5 month will suffice.

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I don't know if it is true, but I heard that because the GSB is not going to review your application until all of the second round applications have been submitted, they'll end up looking at all of the correspondence you sent at once.

You are right about reviewing the whole application together with the second rounders, but I am sure they do make notes as to when those updates have been submitted. And they did acknowledge the receipt of the update letters I submitted.

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Moreover, because the Chicago GSB won't give you any feedback as to why they put you on the WaitList in the first place, how can you know what to emphasize?

They expect you to be smart enough to be able to assess your weaknesses and address them. Rose Martinelly said as much in Montauk's.

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why gsb
why mba
short term goal
long term goal

I think if interviwer does not ask you these questions directly, you should answer it one or other way. Based on my reserach, what I have found that GSB interviwer wants to know "WHY GSB" and "WHY YOU" ...

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Those were certainly the only 'canned' questions I got asked. The rest of the 35 minutes we just chatted about the program and extracurriculars.

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why gsb
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Those were certainly the only 'canned' questions I got asked. The rest of the 35 minutes we just chatted about the program and extracurriculars.

my interviewer too did not ask me these questions.. i was suprised.. in the end he asked me if i wanted to say anything else.. i told him why gsb and why me..what will i do for gsb.. but he did not seem interested at all.. he said he hears the standard answers..........

needless to say, i was bummed.. he did not seem too interested in my answers!

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why gsb
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Those were certainly the only 'canned' questions I got asked. The rest of the 35 minutes we just chatted about the program and extracurriculars.

To me she phrased "WHY GSB" like this.... "You have been to GSB so many times, what you like about GSB".....

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why gsb
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Those were certainly the only 'canned' questions I got asked. The rest of the 35 minutes we just chatted about the program and extracurriculars.

Same as mine.

The difference is this: After about 10 minutes spinning my resume, from work to extracurricular activities, the interviewer said: let me think of another question for you... I laughed over the phone when hearing this, and the other end also laughed. Then she asked me if I wanted to say anything, anything is ok. I laughed again (thinking that this interviewer didn't prepare well in advance what to ask me and now she don't know how to use up the 30 minutes), and I asked her whether I should tell her about my future goals (she hadn't asked about it). She was happy when I mentioned this (because she forgot to ask about it, I guessed). Then it's done with my answering part. She asked me whether I wanted to ask her anything. I got 3 questions and she answered them in a manner like an automatic answering machine, plus a yawn over the phone.

Don't know what the outcome will be.