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Wow. Congrats!
There is no guarantee that R1 is easier to get in vs. R2. It is a big debate but until you get an admission, I don't think you can count on anything unfortunately. It would be sad to burn all this time only to get dings, so I am feeling hopeful and optimistic but it would be bad advice to tell you to celebrate a victory already. I would suggest that you do a focused push for GMAT in the next 2 months as you wait for results and then re-evaluate as each comes in. Worst case scenario you will get better at math ;-)

P.S. I think in a twist of fate, your low Quant Score may have helped differentiate you from all those Q50's.
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Wow. Congrats!
There is no guarantee that R1 is easier to get in vs. R2. It is a big debate but until you get an admission, I don't think you can count on anything unfortunately. It would be sad to burn all this time only to get dings, so I am feeling hopeful and optimistic but it would be bad advice to tell you to celebrate a victory already. I would suggest that you do a focused push for GMAT in the next 2 months as you wait for results and then re-evaluate as each comes in. Worst case scenario you will get better at math ;-)

P.S. I think in a twist of fate, your low Quant Score may have helped differentiate you from all those Q50's.

Haha, most definitely,considering 75% of ISB's applicants are Indian engineering undergrads.

Having scored in the 96th percentile in Verbal couldn't have hurt my chances either. ;)

Round 2 deadline for the French schools is on the 7th of January. The plan is to be done with the GMAT by mid December, which should give me enough time to wrap up with my essays around the holidays.

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About the fees & about the deposits - schools do this on purpose, so don't feel bad that you did not time things well enough. Schools play a strategic game to deincentivize you from applying elsewhere and from switching or if you do switch, to force you to pay a deposit.

Fantastic job! for Quant, consider trying TTP -it seems to have worked well for many (though you may already be there with your practice test scores, perhaps just need to slow down a bit.

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About the fees & about the deposits - schools do this on purpose, so don't feel bad that you did not time things well enough. Schools play a strategic game to deincentivize you from applying elsewhere and from switching or if you do switch, to force you to pay a deposit.

Fantastic job! for Quant, consider trying TTP -it seems to have worked well for many (though you may already be there with your practice test scores, perhaps just need to slow down a bit.

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Yeah, from the school's PoV I guess I can understand where they are coming from.

Btw, my bad, but the deposit payable for ESSEC is 6,000 EUR and not 1,000 which is waaaaay too expensive now. So I guess R2 it is finally, for both of the French schools.

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Ha-ha. That math thing with numbers - it is really after you. Sorry, could not resist :)

Good Luck! You should know that if you master quant, it is not just to get a passing score on the GMAT, but it will help you along in other situations and will make you stronger. It could be a great undertaking, something that will embolden you so take it seriously and know that it is worth your effort and has long-lasting value.
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Ha-ha. That math thing with numbers - it is really after you. Sorry, could not resist :)

Good Luck! You should know that if you master quant, it is not just to get a passing score on the GMAT, but it will help you along in other situations and will make you stronger. It could be a great undertaking, something that will embolden you so take it seriously and know that it is worth your effort and has long-lasting value.

Definitely. Thanks for the advice, bb!

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Hey Lamda,

When it comes to applying to French MiM Schools, the Grand Ecole viz. HEC-ESSEC-ESCP takes the cake.
HEC Paris's MiM enjoys a Harvard like status for its MiM program, and as you very well know, it is a notch above ESSEC and ESCP.

Now, I understand what your dilemma is - You want to know if waiting for Round 2 is worth it and if you do stand a chance at HEC.

First of all, coming to the part about rounds - R1 and R2 are considered to be the early rounds, and though the competition is around 15% higher in the Round 2, it is not a significant disadvantage as such especially if you are confident that you will be applying with a stronger application and a stronger GMAT Score. So if you are sure that you can boost your GMAT by 30-40 points, R2 might not be a bad idea as such.
However, if you are applying to R2 only to check in your chances at HEC, perform a few other litmus tests on what HEC expects from its class profile (Viz. like the school is notorious for recruiting from primarily the top UG colleges of an applicant's home country). So if you think you can boost your GMAT and feel that you can do a good job presenting a unique application, R2 can be a good idea so that you can time results of your target schools better.

For the application session of 2018-19, we have mentored 27 applicants to get into HEC and 72 applicants to get into ESSEC, so in case you need help in putting together such a strong application, feel free to check out our All-In-One Service to see how we can help you: https://www.mim-essay.com/mim-all-in-one

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Hi Abhiyank,

Thanks for reaching out to me.

Your words are very reassuring. I also emailed the HEC recruiting office regarding this dilemma and they too were of the opinion that Round 2 makes more sense.

I come from a tier 1 UG school in India, so therefore that shouldn't be a problem as such. Are there any other such factors that help distinguish the HEC recruitment process vs the other Grande Ecoles?

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Hi Abhiyank,

Thanks for reaching out to me.

Your words are very reassuring. I also emailed the HEC recruiting office regarding this dilemma and they too were of the opinion that Round 2 makes more sense.

I come from a tier 1 UG school in India, so therefore that shouldn't be a problem as such. Are there any other such factors that help distinguish the HEC recruitment process vs the other Grande Ecoles?

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Hi Lambda,
So for HEC recruitment process, here is the approach -
The combination of a good GPA+College Rank can be thought of as the gate-keeper to get an Interview. The application has massive weight-age as well, but again, if you have a strong application but a below average GPA/college rank, it can be an issue.
So in this context, the GPA-UG Rank-GMAT Scores can be thought of checklists that you must tick to be considered for HEC's Initial Screening, while the application is which will determine your selection chances.
You mentioned that the college rank is not an issue, and if you reach your target GMAT score in December it can be an added leverage. For GPA, you can give a reference as well - The difficulty of the grading scale of your home country, and it would be helpful if you give a percentile reference (Eg: If you come within the top 5-10%tile of your class)
Once you have the check lists ticked, you can focus on creating an HEC-Specific application.
Some pointers for the application are -

1. A non-generic take on why HEC is unique:
Everyone writes about the unique aspects of the school/program that influenced, but most of the times, they are pretty generic points. Dig deep into HEC's profile and come up with something differentiating (For Eg: Did you know that a lot of the same professors teach both the Grand Ecole and the MBA program - Mention any specific teaching faculty etc. that you feel will add value to your learning goals )

2. Explain how you can connect your long term goals to HEC's Vision:
Follow a 2 point approach to define your goals -
Having definite, articulate goals is non-negotiable. Once you have it ready, find a way to link them to HEC's vision.
This should be good to get you started, let me know when you are stuck or need more clarity :)
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