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i have been studying for my GMAT for about a month and a half. I studied all five manhattan books for quant and the free trial of economist course. I focused mostly on quant, but i do not see improvement, despite my efforts. In the two tests i made i was on 62% and 66%, scores that i had also in the second week of preparation. I feel like i know the concepts and i think to have higher potential. Maybe i struggle putting it all togheter or move from a topic to another quickly.

Do you think a course could help me? if yes, which one? i can study for another month almost full time. Or maybe it is just a matter of doing more practice?

My target score is at least 700

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I think you need to practice more, each topic, one-by-one and untimed.

Jumping in too early to take tests and then start forming self-perceptions is detrimental sometimes to the confidence and derails you from the concentrated effort required.

Manhattan books are also basic in nature. They'll help you build basics but you definitely need to supplement it with more material- GMAT club tests are a great resource. You can utilize them for more practice.

Do some more practice for weak topics and you will be sailing then in the timed tests.

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Hi marco123,

Many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so there's a decent chance that you might naturally improve as you continue to study. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) How have you scored on each of your CATs (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores)?

Goals:
2) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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AndyDufresne wrote:
I think you need to practice more, each topic, one-by-one and untimed.

Jumping in too early to take tests and then start forming self-perceptions is detrimental sometimes to the confidence and derails you from the concentrated effort required.

Manhattan books are also basic in nature. They'll help you build basics but you definitely need to supplement it with more material- GMAT club tests are a great resource. You can utilize them for more practice.

Do some more practice for weak topics and you will be sailing then in the timed tests.


Thanks a lot!
I will folllow your tips. Do you think is a good strategy to practice on each topic, at 700 question level, until i can reach 90%?

And for verbal, in particular sentence correction, is it better egmat or manhattan book?

Thank you again

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EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi marco123,

Many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so there's a decent chance that you might naturally improve as you continue to study. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) How have you scored on each of your CATs (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores)?

Goals:
2) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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Thank you for your help. I will try to be the more accurate i can answering your questions.

1) 12 July _ Hult simulation powered by Economist_ 650-680 rank (i cannot see percentile for single sections)
28 july 620_quant 62th, verbal 60th (Veritas prep)
9 august_just quant_66th percentile (Veritas prep)

2) I think end of september

3) Mid october

4) First degree master in Eurobe (HEC of LSE)

Thank you again, i hope of being enought accurate.

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AndyDufresne wrote:
I think you need to practice more, each topic, one-by-one and untimed.

Jumping in too early to take tests and then start forming self-perceptions is detrimental sometimes to the confidence and derails you from the concentrated effort required.

Manhattan books are also basic in nature. They'll help you build basics but you definitely need to supplement it with more material- GMAT club tests are a great resource. You can utilize them for more practice.

Do some more practice for weak topics and you will be sailing then in the timed tests.


Hi

It is better to start with taking a CAT exam know starting point 3 month is pretty enough time. Start with quant, learn the concepts tested on GMAT. After learning, practice your learned section with timed practice. You can also take quizzes to meet the pace of GMAT

1 Month for learning concepts and 15 days of practice and same with the verbal when completed all the concepts learning and handsome practice. Take full lenght CATs, know your estimated score. Analyze the result with Correct/incorrect questions, pacing analysis trace your mistakes and learn from them, make an error log to know your mistakes in the previously attempted questions

Best CATs

1. Official GMAC (50+50$) 2. Manhattan GMAT (49$) 3. GMAT Club Quant CATs (80$) 4. Veritas CATs (49$ but you can buy at 15-20$ During sale period)

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Hi marco123,

Given your timeframe and recent practice CAT scores, you could potentially hit your score goal by the end of September (although you will have to be really 'efficient' with your studies). By extension, you would likely find it beneficial to invest in a GMAT Course of some type (either Guided Self-Study or instructor-led).

1) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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marco123 wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
I think you need to practice more, each topic, one-by-one and untimed.

Jumping in too early to take tests and then start forming self-perceptions is detrimental sometimes to the confidence and derails you from the concentrated effort required.

Manhattan books are also basic in nature. They'll help you build basics but you definitely need to supplement it with more material- GMAT club tests are a great resource. You can utilize them for more practice.

Do some more practice for weak topics and you will be sailing then in the timed tests.


Thanks a lot!
I will folllow your tips. Do you think is a good strategy to practice on each topic, at 700 question level, until i can reach 90%?

And for verbal, in particular sentence correction, is it better egmat or manhattan book?

Thank you again


Hi Marco123,
I think a better way would be to practice each topic at 500-600-700 i.e. in linear fashion and target for 70-75% accuracy. About 60-70% topics will be like where to go from 500 to 700, you would hardly take any time but more difficult topics like Probability, Geometry etc., you might need to have some patience before you start seeing some results.
90% accuracy is just too high! Aim for around 70% in all topics, then start taking mocks and analyse to see a repeatable pattern for a particular topic, and then revise it again.
For SC, both resources are good. If egmat approach is little better not because of the content but as these are pre-recorded online videos, it becomes much more intuitive and easier to get involved rather than just reading from a book where you would have to push yourself, especially if you are not really confident about the subject.
Hope it helps.

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EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi marco123,

Given your timeframe and recent practice CAT scores, you could potentially hit your score goal by the end of September (although you will have to be really 'efficient' with your studies). By extension, you would likely find it beneficial to invest in a GMAT Course of some type (either Guided Self-Study or instructor-led).

1) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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I think about 30 hours per week

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marco123 wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
I think you need to practice more, each topic, one-by-one and untimed.

Jumping in too early to take tests and then start forming self-perceptions is detrimental sometimes to the confidence and derails you from the concentrated effort required.

Manhattan books are also basic in nature. They'll help you build basics but you definitely need to supplement it with more material- GMAT club tests are a great resource. You can utilize them for more practice.

Do some more practice for weak topics and you will be sailing then in the timed tests.


Thanks a lot!
I will folllow your tips. Do you think is a good strategy to practice on each topic, at 700 question level, until i can reach 90%?

And for verbal, in particular sentence correction, is it better egmat or manhattan book?

Thank you again


Hi Marco123,
I think a better way would be to practice each topic at 500-600-700 i.e. in linear fashion and target for 70-75% accuracy. About 60-70% topics will be like where to go from 500 to 700, you would hardly take any time but more difficult topics like Probability, Geometry etc., you might need to have some patience before you start seeing some results.
90% accuracy is just too high! Aim for around 70% in all topics, then start taking mocks and analyse to see a repeatable pattern for a particular topic, and then revise it again.
For SC, both resources are good. If egmat approach is little better not because of the content but as these are pre-recorded online videos, it becomes much more intuitive and easier to get involved rather than just reading from a book where you would have to push yourself, especially if you are not really confident about the subject.
Hope it helps.


Ok, i will follow your tips. Thank you so much

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Hi marco123,

Since your last FULL CAT was over 2 weeks ago, I suggest that you take a new CAT sometime soon and take it in a realistic fashion (take the FULL CAT - with the Essay and IR sections, take it away from your home, at the same time of day as when you'll take the Official GMAT, etc.). Once you have that score, you should report back here and we can discuss how best to proceed.

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