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Hahahaha how did you know??? I am going to get a massage and a facial! :)
Haha. Just had a hunch. :)
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Right now I am just doing some DS practice quizzes in my Kaplan CD
How are you doing in these? In the DS quizzes I usually score around 16/20. I don't find it particularly tough but I am always speeding through the last few questions (maybe 5 or so) and end up making silly mistakes.
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Just took the official GMAT practice exam #2 and scored 710 (Q48, and V39). My Quant increased but verbal went back down to 39. Hmmmm, must examine error log!
Well, what says the error log? :) Also, I have heard that GMAT Prep 2 is sightly tougher than GMAT Prep 1. Did you feel the same way? I am assuming you are going to work on the document floating around this forum, the one with all the GMAT Prep questions?
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ho ho ho ho ho! I scored 770 (Q50, V44) on my latest MGMAT practice exam! 99 percentile!!!!!!!!!!! Although there were a few repeat questions, so I would assume that the margin of error is give or take 20 - 40 points... (will update original post with this)

I have the same experience in Kaplan DS practice as you. I find them really helpful though since DS problems are hard to come by and any practice is good practice. And for me, PS is less of a problem than DS is. So I need all the help I can get!

I was too lazy to enter in the results into the error log, but I did go through every wrong answer to figure out what I did wrong. For math, I think most of it was that I made sloppy mistakes. For verbal, some of it were idioms that I didnt remember or know, so I made sure to jot them down in my notecards.

I didn't know there was a complete set floating around! Must search forum....
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So I've been poring through the MGMAT Math series and...I've watched 3 episodes of Mind Your Language for each chapter so far. In fact, I'm out of episodes. I'm looking for other shows now. I've always jokingly said I have ADD to piss off my parents but OMG at this. I miss the old school SAT...and being 16 :(

I'm taking the exam in exactly a month. I love digging my own grave. Oh look, Beckett's about to tell Castle she loves him.
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I'm taking the exam in exactly a month. I love digging my own grave. Oh look, Beckett's about to tell Castle she loves him.

Not to go off on an irrelevant subject, but isn't Castle such an entertaining series? I love the guy main character -- I loved him in Firefly and I love him in this!

Seriously, the first 2 months of my studying basically went like this: 10 minutes mgmat guide, 10 minutes on hulu, 10 minutes mgmat guide, 2 minutes facebook, 5 minutes gmail, 10 minutes hulu, 10 minutes mgmat guide...etc etc. Horribly ADD!
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Loving your journey here...you should talk about ADD when you have a kid :-D My GMAT is on 8th sept. and basically i am feeling so down, all my attempts to study are dampened by my lovely 2 year old who is in need of something or other!! Anyways, my problem areas in quant seem similar to yours..I gave GMAT prep1-- 4 months ago as a diagnostic and was at 680 V38 Q45..after that today I gave the free princeton test..had to leave verbal halfway due to a major diaper disaster :oops: so I am at 580 V25 Q45..when you talk about SC rules are you referring to the MGMAT SC book...
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Loving your journey here...you should talk about ADD when you have a kid :-D My GMAT is on 8th sept. and basically i am feeling so down, all my attempts to study are dampened by my lovely 2 year old who is in need of something or other!! Anyways, my problem areas in quant seem similar to yours..I gave GMAT prep1-- 4 months ago as a diagnostic and was at 680 V38 Q45..after that today I gave the free princeton test..had to leave verbal halfway due to a major diaper disaster :oops: so I am at 580 V25 Q45..when you talk about SC rules are you referring to the MGMAT SC book...

Awwww! So cute! Kudos to you for trying to balance, work, family (especially a child!), and studying for the GMAT. How do you commute to work? I take public transportation so sometimes I review my notecards while I am on the train or the bus (but if you drive, then I guess this isn't much help).

For Sentence Correction -- I started with Kaplan verbal foundations to make sure that I know the basics well, then I went on to Manhattan GMAT's SC guide. I did practice questions in all of the Official Guides (12th edition and also the verbal review), as well as the Kaplan premiere CD quizzes, AND MGMAT practice questions. Once I felt comfortable in sentence correction, it became a matter of memorizing idioms and also seeing the SC questions as a pattern recognition game.

Hope this helps! And good luck to you! :)
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Indeed, the GMAT exam can make you feel like you have A.D.D. Remember, besides the academic concepts on the test--there's a HUGE psychological component to the test--it's a marathon of sorts. And yes, you'll have to force yourself to focus--even for those boring Reading Comprehension passages!

Don't underestimate the psychological component of the exam.

Spend at least five minutes at a time imagining different details about taking the test. Visualize yourself spotting sentence structures based on keywords or commas. Visualize yourself checking for X & Y consistency for SC questions or recognizing a Data Sufficiency Percent vs. Actual Number question. You know what to look for and where the pitfalls are (multiple % data points without any actual number data points are useless if they ask you a “how many” question).

Your visualization scene doesn’t need to be the same each time, but you need to tap into a sense of accomplishment, calm, and confidence. Do this every morning and before bedtime.

Stay focused as best you can. Start in small chunks and prepare for a long marathon.
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Good luck on Saturday! Don't eat fried chicken this week!
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Well, all the best enkie!
Outta the park!!!!!! :)
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Thanks everyone! Just finished my official exam. 700 (Q44, V42)!

I did something really stupid though. During my break between AWA and Quant, I took my sweet time eating my snacks (which I often do out of habit), and ended up taking a 13 minute break, which reduced my quant test time by 5 minutes!!!! I think that contributed to my panic, so I didn't score as well on my quant. I think if I had not **** up like that, I probably could have scored somewhere between 710 - 740. But I should be very happy with 700...right? Retake? Hmmm
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enkie - sorry to hear about what happened. But I want to remind you that 700 is a pretty good score.

Like you say, if you retake, you might be able to score higher. But you may want to think about whether that 10 - 20 extra points is going to make the difference between you getting into a school of your choice and getting rejected. You will have to incorporate a 'maintenance' study schedule for another 1 month (since you can only retake after 30 days). That time might be better spent focusing on your apps. BUT, I will also say that your quant score is around 75% - and from what I have been reading, you might want to get both quant and verbal scores in the 80% range (for the top tier schools). How was your academic performance in undergrad/graduate school? If you have high academic scores in a math based subject, I am going to say skip the retake.

Even if you dont retake, I feel the 700 is going to look good. (Especially since you already have a very strong profile - I feel you will need to prove to the adcom that you need an MBA since you might be overqualified).

But at the end of the day, if you feel restless about the whole thing and you feel that this is going to be your Achilles heal going into the admission process, then go ahead and retake the GMAT. Just peace of mind might be worth it.

Congrats on a great score nonetheless!
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Thank you! Your analysis is right on and very helpful.

My GPA in undergrad is about 3.6 (?) from a not so well known school, but i also have a masters in economics from columbia university (with a 3.8 GPA -- and A+ in economics). So based on your analysis, I think I should be ok. Maybe I should focus on honing my resume and writing the first drafts of my essays then decide in August if I want to retake?

The rest of my profile goes like this...


Work Experience
-5 years as Web designer and developer at medium sized education NGO.
-4 years as Assistant Director of Web Communications at Columbia University.
-1.5 years as Director of New Media at a well known, mid-sized environmental NGO.
-Just started new position (also related to new media and Web) at the US Treasury.

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- Recently received an innovation award from the CIO
-Was elected student chair for my program at Columbia University. Participated in Columbia's dean search committee for the School of International and Public Affairs. Represented Columbia University on policy study tours to Japan, Nigeria and Ghana.
-Hired and Managed teams of designers, developers and vendors at all my jobs except for the very first one.
- Negotiated contracts and managed budgets.
-Lead strategy discussions at senior levels at my two previous jobs (current job is too early to tell), as well as implemented those strategies with my teams.
-Served, several times, on a panel of judges that determined scholarship awards for my undergrad school.
-Lead a viral campaign targeting Discovery Communications and Sarah Palin that received national media attention.
-For my master thesis at Columbia, I worked with a team of graduate students to produce a paper, examining the economic relationship between China and Africa. This paper was used in a Beijing briefing conference for African officials hosted by the World Bank.
- Volunteers regularly for local area cleanups and holiday toy drives.


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Native fluency in English and Mandarin Chinese
Basic proficiency in Japanese and Taiwanese
Extensive travel in North America (US & Canada), South America (Chile, Argentina, Peru, Easter Island), Africa (Nigeria, Ghana), Europe (UK, Ireland, France, Germany, Netherlands, Italy, Monaco, Austria), and Asia (Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong)
I am pretty good at art things like drawing (charcoal, pencil, pastels) and painting (oil, acrylic, gauche). Designing for online medias. Photography.
Did I mention I make a delicious four-cheese bacon macaroni and cheese that is to die for?
I played dodge ball and am absolutely horrible at it.

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Would like to focus on business strategy and foreign market penetration for one of the big name mobile firms in US or Europe. Would also be very interested in exploring innovative mobile technology that targets business and education use in developing and third world countries -- possible entrepreneur route. Would like to leverage my past experiences in new media and viral campaigns and my MPA in international econommics to help me go in this direction.
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My GPA in undergrad is about 3.6 (?) from a not so well known school, but i also have a masters in economics from columbia university (with a 3.8 GPA -- and A+ in economics).
I think you have a good academic profile.
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Maybe I should focus on honing my resume and writing the first drafts of my essays then decide in August if I want to retake?
The time to decide would be now. And if you decide to retake, I would say do it at the end of July. A gap of one month is enough time to forget those GMAT subtleties that you have consciously/unconsciously honed right now. If you decide in August that you want to retake (in Sep), you are taking away precious time from your apps. Of course, you could submit all your apps early and then retake the GMAT then :). I have read quite a few stories where applicants have done this. Bottom line - I would be hesitant about retaking the GMAT in between the whole app submission process or just before I submit my apps (September-ish).

Just my $0.02.
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Thanks! Your advice is really helpful. I will take a week to think about it and decide. :)
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So I finished watching every episode of every show I can think of, except for Desperate Housewives; I'll prob do that after actually becoming a desperate housewife as a result of bombing the GMAT next month.

I've just made a pyramid with my GMAT books in another (computer-free) room, far, far away from my own. I really wish ADD existed in the Indian subcontinent; everyone here calls it laziness. Silly people. I'm going to finish one MGMAT Math guide a day starting tomorrow. You'd think that I'd take advantage of being a freelancer and having the luxury of picking my working hours but omg...Castle was a good show. THANK GOD ITS GONE FOR THE SUMMER THOUGH.
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a 700 is a nice score, good job.
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