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If rs#0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4 ?

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If rs#0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4 ? [#permalink] New post  Updated on: 23 Feb 2014, 01:29
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If rs#0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4 ?

(1) r + s = 4rs
(2) r = s

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Originally posted by ggarr on 11 Jun 2007, 21:19.
Last edited by Bunuel on 23 Feb 2014, 01:29, edited 2 times in total.
Renamed the topic, edited the question and added the OA.
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[#permalink] New post  11 Jun 2007, 21:26
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St1:
r = 4rs-s = s(4r-1)

Insufficient.

St2:
1/r + 1/s = 2/r or 2/s. Insufficient.

Using both, we have, 2s = 4s^2
2s(1-2s) = 0
s = o (invalid) or s = 1/2 = r. So we can answer the question now. Sufficient.

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Re: DS: 246 [#permalink] New post  11 Jun 2007, 21:26
ggarr wrote:
if rs is not equal to 0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4?

1) r+s = 4rs
2) r = s

Please explain your solution


The answer is A.
1) (r+s) / rs = 4
=> (r/rs) + (s/rs) = 4
=> (1/r) + (1/s) = 4
SUFFICIENT

2) plug in r=s=1/2, you get 4=4. But plug in r=s=1, you get 2=4. INSUFFICIENT.
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Re: DS: 246 [#permalink] New post  11 Jun 2007, 21:27
bkk145 wrote:
ggarr wrote:
if rs is not equal to 0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4?

1) r+s = 4rs
2) r = s

Please explain your solution


The answer is A.
1) (r+s) / rs = 4
=> (r/rs) + (s/rs) = 4
=> (1/r) + (1/s) = 4
SUFFICIENT
2) plug in r=s=1/2, you get 4=4. But plug in r=s=1, you get 2=4. INSUFFICIENT.


gar!! failed to see that... :oops:
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[#permalink] New post  11 Jun 2007, 21:55
For me the answer is A
r+s=4rs
dividing both sides by rs
r/rs+s/rs=4
1/r+1/s=4 (Sufficient)
r=s
Different values of r or s suggest that 1/r+1/s may or may not be =4 thus insufficient
so Answer is A
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Re: DS: 246 [#permalink] New post  11 Jun 2007, 22:36
ywilfred wrote:
bkk145 wrote:
ggarr wrote:
if rs is not equal to 0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4?

1) r+s = 4rs
2) r = s

Please explain your solution


The answer is A.
1) (r+s) / rs = 4
=> (r/rs) + (s/rs) = 4
=> (1/r) + (1/s) = 4
SUFFICIENT
2) plug in r=s=1/2, you get 4=4. But plug in r=s=1, you get 2=4. INSUFFICIENT.


gar!! failed to see that... :oops:
why can't we just answer this question w/the info provided in the stem? did we really need additional info to figure that out? 1/r + 1/s = 4 => s/rs + r/rs = 4 => 1/r + 1/s = 4

does this make sense?
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[#permalink] New post  11 Jun 2007, 22:49
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Well we could certainly have done it that way Fig if the stem had told us that 1/r+1/s is indeed equal to 4. The stem is asking whether the expression is a true equation or not. And to validate the stem we are provided with two different sets of information which are statements A & B.
Actually this is how i had made D the correct option by putting r=s in the stem. But as u see, stem is not stated to be true, it is asked wherther it is true or not.
I hope this explains ur question.
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[#permalink] New post  11 Jun 2007, 22:56
it does. thanks. I made this more difficult than I should have. why are you calling me Fig?
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[#permalink] New post  11 Jun 2007, 23:20
:oops: sorry dude
u see when the boss is just around the corner, then such mistakes are bound to happen. Especially when ur boss is more like a blood hound, who only wnats ur blood instead of ur sweat. :x
And yes u did make it more difficult. It happens to me too. simple solution is in fornt of me, but i start making complex equations.
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[#permalink] New post  11 Jun 2007, 23:47
ggarr wrote:
it does. thanks. I made this more difficult than I should have. why are you calling me Fig?


Because I'm the one who will do such thing ;)

By the way, I'm also with (A) :)...... because neither r nor s could be equal to 0..... We can thus divide the equation by rs. :)
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Re: DS: 246 [#permalink] New post  12 Jun 2007, 01:18
ggarr wrote:
if rs is not equal to 0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4?

1) r+s = 4rs
2) r = s

Please explain your solution


From the stem we have that (r+s)/rs = 4

1) (r+s)/rs= 4rs/rs = 4, SUF
2) r=s, from the stem => 1/r, but since we do not know how much does r worth we also do not know how much 1/r worths, INSUF.

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Re: if rs is not equal to 0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4? 1) r+s = 4rs 2) r [#permalink] New post  22 Feb 2014, 21:19
why is (1) sufficient? if r = 0.3 and s = 0.2, 4rs = 0.24. s+r = 0.5. The question didn't state that r and s are integers.
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Re: if rs is not equal to 0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4? 1) r+s = 4rs 2) r [#permalink] New post  22 Feb 2014, 22:43
r+s=4 rs or (r+s)/rs=4 or (r/rs)+(s/rs)=4 or 1/r+1/s=4 . so sufficient .

statements 2 is clearly out .
correct answer = A .

if this portion of the question " rs is not equal to 0 " is not given , then ? what would happen ?

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Re: if rs is not equal to 0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4? 1) r+s = 4rs 2) r [#permalink] New post  23 Feb 2014, 01:32
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shiblee wrote:
r+s=4 rs or (r+s)/rs=4 or (r/rs)+(s/rs)=4 or 1/r+1/s=4 . so sufficient .

statements 2 is clearly out .
correct answer = A .

if this portion of the question " rs is not equal to 0 " is not given , then ? what would happen ?

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If rs#0, is 1/r + 1/s = 4 ?

Question: is \(\frac{1}{r}+\frac{1}{s}=4\) --> is \(\frac{r+s}{rs}=4\) --> is \(r+s=4rs\)?

(1) \(r+s=4rs\), directly answers the question. Sufficient.

(2) \(r = s\), the question becomes: is \(\frac{1}{r}+\frac{1}{r}=4\) ? --> is \(r=\frac{1}{2}\)? but we dont' know whether \(r=\frac{1}{2}\). Not sufficient.

Answer: A.

As for your question: if rs#0 were not given, then r=s=0 would be possible and in this case 1/r + 1/s would be undefined.

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