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If x represents the sum of all the positive threedigit numbers that can be constructed using each of the distinct nonzero digits a, b, and c exactly once, what is the largest integer by which x must be divisible? (A) 3 (B) 6 (C) 11 (D) 22 (E) 222
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where did this question come from wow I have like no idea where to begin I would assume 123 and 987 which are two combinations are both both divisible by 3 as the GCD so 3? A?



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rvthryet wrote: If x represents the sum of all the positive threedigit numbers that can be constructed using each of the distinct nonzero digits a, b, and c exactly once, what is the largest integer by which x must be divisible? (A) 3 (B) 6 (C) 11 (D) 22 (E) 222 I have never really understood the thinking behind this... Using THREE nonzero digits a,b,c only, we can construct 3!=6 numbers: abc, acb, bac, bca, cab, cba. Their sum will be: \(x=(100a+10b+c)+(100a+10c+b)+(100b+10a+c)+(100b+10c+a)+(100c+10a+b)+(100c+10b+a)=\) \(=200*(a+b+c)+20*(a+b+c)+2*(a+b+c)=\) \(=222*(a+b+c)\) Largest integer by which x MUST be divisible is \(222\). Answer: E (222).
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Bunuel wrote: rvthryet wrote: If x represents the sum of all the positive threedigit numbers that can be constructed using each of the distinct nonzero digits a, b, and c exactly once, what is the largest integer by which x must be divisible? (A) 3 (B) 6 (C) 11 (D) 22 (E) 222 I have never really understood the thinking behind this... Using THREE nonzero digits a,b,c only, we can construct 3!=6 numbers: abc, acb, bac, bca, cab, cba. Their sum would be: \(x=(100a+10b+c)+(100a+10c+b)+(100b+10a+c)+(100b+10c+a)+(100c+10a+b)+(100c+10b+a)=\) \(=200*(a+b+c)+20*(a+b+c)+2*(a+b+c)=\) \(=222*(a+b+c)\) Largest integer by which x MUST be divisible is \(222\). Answer: E (222). Good explanation, exactly how I solved it. I love questions with elegant solutions like this. +1



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We can also solve this one without math using symmetry: hundreds, tens and units are symmetric, so sum can be written as (y)*111. We need to check that y is even. For example, for fixed a at hundred position, there is two bc,cb combinations. Therefore, a is included twice (even number of times) into sum of hundreds. So, it is 222 By the way, it is the first time when I add something after Bunuel
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Maybe there is a faster way to do it but I did it like this:
How many ways can you arrange abc? abc acb bac bca cab cba
which are equivalent to: 100a + 10b + c 100a + 10c + b 100b + 10a + c 100b + 10c + a 100c + 10a + b 100c + 10b + a
if you add them all together you get 222a + 222b + 222c



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To Bunuel, I've gone thorugh ur notes for each Quant topic and I try to solve topic wise questions from gmatclub. Sometimes I'm not able to figure out how to start with the problem, or I should say how to apply the properties learned since, the techniques you give in your solution for a given problem are not there in properties or formulaes. What do you recommend ? I plan to give my Gmat nxt mnth end. This Tuesday, Veritas prep test I took I scored 600, Q44, verbal 33. Kindly assist. Thanks.



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.Though I was able to solve it (in a random way), but was unable to come up with a concrete approach. @NickK kudos for that perfect one. This is how I did.....
The question asked for the largest divisor and thus we need to form 6 largest number that could be made using 3 distinct nonzero digits....987+978+897+879+798+789 = 5328...start from the largest number provided in the answer..222 divides 5328 completely hence is the answer



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ratinarace wrote: .Though I was able to solve it (in a random way), but was unable to come up with a concrete approach. @NickK kudos for that perfect one. This is how I did.....
The question asked for the largest divisor and thus we need to form 6 largest number that could be made using 3 distinct nonzero digits....987+978+897+879+798+789 = 5328...start from the largest number provided in the answer..222 divides 5328 completely hence is the answer Agree, substitution works the best for 'must be true' problems.
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Bunuel wrote: rvthryet wrote: If x represents the sum of all the positive threedigit numbers that can be constructed using each of the distinct nonzero digits a, b, and c exactly once, what is the largest integer by which x must be divisible? (A) 3 (B) 6 (C) 11 (D) 22 (E) 222 I have never really understood the thinking behind this... Using THREE nonzero digits a,b,c only, we can construct 3!=6 numbers: abc, acb, bac, bca, cab, cba. Their sum will be: \(x=(100a+10b+c)+(100a+10c+b)+(100b+10a+c)+(100b+10c+a)+(100c+10a+b)+(100c+10b+a)=\) \(=200*(a+b+c)+20*(a+b+c)+2*(a+b+c)=\) \(=222*(a+b+c)\) Largest integer by which x MUST be divisible is \(222\). Answer: E (222). Hi Bunuel, Can you please explain me what will be the value of "x" in this question. If it were asked what is the value of x? Thanks!



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shameekv wrote: Bunuel wrote: rvthryet wrote: If x represents the sum of all the positive threedigit numbers that can be constructed using each of the distinct nonzero digits a, b, and c exactly once, what is the largest integer by which x must be divisible? (A) 3 (B) 6 (C) 11 (D) 22 (E) 222 I have never really understood the thinking behind this... Using THREE nonzero digits a,b,c only, we can construct 3!=6 numbers: abc, acb, bac, bca, cab, cba. Their sum will be: \(x=(100a+10b+c)+(100a+10c+b)+(100b+10a+c)+(100b+10c+a)+(100c+10a+b)+(100c+10b+a)=\) \(=200*(a+b+c)+20*(a+b+c)+2*(a+b+c)=\) \(=222*(a+b+c)\) Largest integer by which x MUST be divisible is \(222\). Answer: E (222). Hi Bunuel, Can you please explain me what will be the value of "x" in this question. If it were asked what is the value of x? Thanks! We cannot say what x is. If a, b, and c, are 1, 2, and 3 respectively, then x = 123 + 132 + 213 + 231 + 312 + 321 = 1,332 = 6*222 (the least possible value of x). ... If a, b, and c, are 7, 8, and 9 respectively, then x = 789 + 798 + 879 + 897 + 978 + 987 = 5,328 = 24*222 (the greatest possible value of x). Hope it helps.
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Hi Bunuel,
Thanks for the clarification. I thought it is the sum of all such 3digit numbers that have distinct numbers.
What in the case "x is the sum of all the 3digit numbers that have distinct numbers". How do you calculate the value of x in such case. I tried many things but couldn't work it out.
I saw such type of question recently where x was required to be calculated but the digits could be repeated and that made it simple. But I couldn't figure out with this restriction. Could you please help me out on that?
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Shamee, to solve the problem in a simpler manner why don't you assume the numbers a, b and c to be 1, 2 and 3 respectively?
Thus, the distinct numbers that can be formed would be  123 132 213 231 312 321
If you sum these up you get a total of 1332.
Then proceed to plug in the answer options to find the greatest number that divides 1332.
From the options  (A) 3  Yes (B) 6  Yes (C) 11  No (D) 22  No (E) 222  Yes
Clearly, since 222 is the greatest, E is the right option.



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pritishpratap wrote: Shamee, to solve the problem in a simpler manner why don't you assume the numbers a, b and c to be 1, 2 and 3 respectively?
Thus, the distinct numbers that can be formed would be  123 132 213 231 312 321
If you sum these up you get a total of 1332.
Then proceed to plug in the answer options to find the greatest number that divides 1332.
From the options  (A) 3  Yes (B) 6  Yes (C) 11  No (D) 22  No (E) 222  Yes
Clearly, since 222 is the greatest, E is the right option. Here is the catch in "assuming values" in this question: The question is a "must be true" question. How do you know that what holds for values 1, 2 and 3 will be true for values say 2, 3 and 7 too? What if sum of numbers formed by 2, 3 and 7 is not divisible by 222? You do need to apply logic to confirm "must be true".
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(A) 3 (B) 6 (C) 11 (D) 22 (E) 222 Bunuel, This question has been wrongly tagged. The original source is Manhattan Prep, Challenge Problems (2002, December 2, ThreeDigit Divisibility).
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ziyuen wrote: rvthryet wrote: If x represents the sum of all the positive threedigit numbers that can be constructed using each of the distinct nonzero digits a, b, and c exactly once, what is the largest integer by which x must be divisible?
(A) 3 (B) 6 (C) 11 (D) 22 (E) 222 Bunuel, This question has been wrongly tagged. The original source is Manhattan Prep, Challenge Problems (2002, December 2, ThreeDigit Divisibility). Edited. Thank you.
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I solved it in a bit different way. Not sure if this is correct. There are 3 numbers a, b, c so there can be 6 arrangements of these numbers. So, 6 possible numbers are there ( just to be sure i am not missing) abc +acb +bac +bca +cba +cab6a+6b+6cNow if we factor out 6 > 6( a+b+c ) from this we know the answer must be a multiple of 6. It can not be 6 as a+b+c wpuld yield some integer and 6*someinteger > 6 . So the only possible outcome is 222 which is a multiple of 6 other than Choice B. Answer E
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