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# In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competiti

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30 Oct 2012, 04:58
Best answer appears to be "C." Answer A is the wrong tense when referring to a previous design, B is technically gramatically correct but is awkward since the first part of the sentence refers to a design and the second to the discus itself, and D is a gramatical nightmare, never connecting a verb to the original subject. E needs the "it is" to remain intact to sustain grammatic correctness in the second half.
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06 Feb 2013, 21:12
Fell apart from the meaning of the question itself,

Can someone plz explain where I am deviating ?

In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition is concentrated in a metal center, but now it is lined with lead around the perimeter,
thereby improving stability in flight and resulting in longer throws.

Everyone pouring in and saying that "now it is" incorrectly refer backs to "weight",but please suggest why it wrong .

In past: Weight of the discus used in ..... was concentrated in a metal center,but now "it=weight" is lined with lead around perimeter ,therby ..................

Plz advice !!!! How I am interpreting the meaning of the sentence wrongly!!
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07 Feb 2013, 05:55
the only reason which makes E wrong is

" was designed and now lined" can not create "improving"

the meaning relation among 3 verbs is changed to distorted the meaning.

it take me a long time to realize this error.
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07 Aug 2013, 23:12
I went with B instead of C, but i clearly see the pronoun missmatch. Didnt consider C as an option because according to a previous design sounded better than once design.....still a bit jittery when it comes to modifier explanation. Thanks everyone for such a wonderful discussion.

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25 Oct 2013, 08:20
Hi e-GMAT,
I've got a doubt -
Per the sentence, I thought the meaning should be the weight of discus in old design was concentrated at the center earlier and now the same (i.e the weight of discus NOT the discus itself) is lined with lead around the perimeter. The topic of discussion should be the weight (of discus) not merely the discus I guess.I don't see the second case scientifically wrong as it's a form of distributed load along the perimeter - this is very much possible.

Please help me where I got it wrong and why ONLY the 'discus' is considered instead of 'the weight of discus' in modern design?
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03 Nov 2013, 03:52
egmat wrote:
Hi there! Thanks for posting your doubt here, as requested.

If we focus on the meaning of the sentence, note that it refers to something being lined with lead. Logically, ‘weight’ cannot be lined with anything since it is a quality of the discus. Only the discus itself can be lined with lead.

Secondly, options A and B start with modifiers that refer to ‘a previous design’. Again, the design can only be the design of the discus – the weight itself cannot have a design, since ‘weight’ is not a concrete object but a value.

I hope this helps!

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Meghna,
I'm not able to understand why do you say that "‘weight’ cannot be lined with anything...", as here weight of the discuss is lined with lead around the perimeter means the weight of the discuss is distributed (load) along the perimeter - this is very much possible from the scientific view point. Right?

Second reason - I thought the modifier ‘a previous design’ refers to the entire following clause here. Please clarify.
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05 Dec 2013, 09:47
Hi there,

As mentioned in the previous explanation, 'weight' is an abstract quality of an object. It is not an object itself. If we say that the weight of the discus is 2 kilograms, we can't say that the 2 kilograms are lined with lead. It's the discus itself that is lined with lead.

As for the modifier, the design also logically has to refer to the discus, not the weight of the discus. The correct option makes this clear.

I hope this helps!

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25 Jul 2016, 08:03
noboru wrote:
In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition is concentrated in a metal center, but now it is lined with lead around the perimeter, thereby improving stability in flight and resulting in longer throws.

A. In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition is concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
B. According to a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition was concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
C. Once designed with its weight concentrated in a metal center, the discus used in track competition is now
D. The discus used in track competition, once designed with its weight concentrated in a metal center, but now
E. The discus used in track competition was once designed having its weight concentrated in a metal center and now

A. In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition is concentrated in a metal center, but now it (Refers to 'weight') is
B. According to a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition was concentrated in a metal center, but now it (Refers to 'weight') is
C. Once designed with its weight concentrated in a metal center (correctly modifies 'the discus) , the discus used in track competition is now 'The discus is lined with and not the weight'
D. The discus used in track competition, once designed with its weight concentrated in a metal center, but now 'No verb'
E. The discus used in track competition was once designed having its weight concentrated in a metal center and now The discus was once designed and was now lined. 'was' can not be used for 'now'
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11 Aug 2016, 04:49
egmat wrote:
Hi there,

As mentioned in the previous explanation, 'weight' is an abstract quality of an object. It is not an object itself. If we say that the weight of the discus is 2 kilograms, we can't say that the 2 kilograms are lined with lead. It's the discus itself that is lined with lead.

As for the modifier, the design also logically has to refer to the discus, not the weight of the discus. The correct option makes this clear.

I hope this helps!

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Meghna

How can discus is lined with lead around it's own perimeter? It is the weight that can be lined with lead around perimeter. when we can say that weight of the discus is concentrated in a metal center, now weight of the discuss is spread across perimeter. Discus itself can not lined with its perimeter. Doesn't make any sense. And anyways the sentence is saying "earlier it was center, now it is perimeter. (Physics)

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05 Oct 2016, 08:14
egmat wrote:
Hi there! Thanks for posting your doubt here, as requested.

If we focus on the meaning of the sentence, note that it refers to something being lined with lead. Logically, ‘weight’ cannot be lined with anything since it is a quality of the discus. Only the discus itself can be lined with lead.

Secondly, options A and B start with modifiers that refer to ‘a previous design’. Again, the design can only be the design of the discus – the weight itself cannot have a design, since ‘weight’ is not a concrete object but a value.

I hope this helps!

Regards,
Meghna

Hi Megha,

According to e-gmat,a pronoun can refer to a noun in prepositional phrase so here "it" can refer to discus . Then why we are implying that "it" here just refers to weight?
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29 Oct 2016, 22:40
I also got this question wrong . I realized that this tests two things; one is the verb tense and more importantly which should be the main subject the weight or the discuss.
It is the discuss

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22 Dec 2016, 03:41
[quote="noboru"]In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition is concentrated in a metal center, but now it is lined with lead around the perimeter, thereby improving stability in flight and resulting in longer throws.

A. In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition is concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
B. According to a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition was concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
C. Once designed with its weight concentrated in a metal center, the discus used in track competition is now
D. The discus used in track competition, once designed with its weight concentrated in a metal center, but now
E. The discus used in track competition was once designed having its weight concentrated in a metal center and now

Got this so wrong..
B Option i thought was correct as
Once designed with its weight concentrated in a metal center, the discus used in track competition is now

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12 Nov 2019, 18:52
A and B incorrectly refer to weight instead of discus.
D is missing a verb
E doesn't make sense as verbatim it says "designed now lined...."
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10 Jan 2020, 05:18
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In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition is concentrated in a metal center, but now it is lined with lead around the perimeter, thereby improving stability in flight and resulting in longer throws.

(A) In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition is concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
- I can roughly recall GMATNinja 's statement that (Correct me if I am wrong), the pronoun of the adjoining clause must refer to the subject of the previous clause - hence "it" refers to weight
- "In a previous design" - prepositional modifier - must refer to the noun it is modifying.Whose design is it speaking about - discuss, hence technically there should be "discuss" after "in a previous design"
- Wrong

(B) According to a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition was concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
- Similar to "in previous design" --> "according to previous design" must refer to "discuss"
- The incorrect use of "it" persists
- Wrong

(C) Once designed with its weight concentrated in a metal center, the discus used in track competition is now
- "Once designed .. metal center" - modifier - requires the noun that it is referring to immediately after the modifier = discuss
- Correct

(D) The discus used in track competition, once designed with its weight concentrated in a metal center, but now
- "used" is a modifier and not the verb - the entire phrase lacks a verb
- Incorrect

(E) The discus used in track competition was once designed having its weight concentrated in a metal center and now
- The phrase after "now" lacks a verb
- Incorrect
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10 Jan 2020, 06:28
I have a question :-

the weight of the discus used in track competition

Is 'used' in the above statement modifying just 'discus' or 'the weight of the discus'?

and what if the statement were : -

the weight of the discus that is used in track competition

is 'that' modifying just 'discus' or 'the weight of the discus'?
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10 Jan 2020, 07:20
shameekv1989 wrote:
I have a question :-

the weight of the discus used in track competition

Is 'used' in the above statement modifying just 'discus' or 'the weight of the discus'?

and what if the statement were : -

the weight of the discus that is used in track competition

is 'that' modifying just 'discus' or 'the weight of the discus'?

First query: the weight of the discus used in track competition - Here "used" is a verb-ed modifier. The verb-ed modifier without a comma follows the touch rule that modifies the noun immediately before it --> Hence used must refer to discus

Second query: weight of the discus that is used in track competition...
Here that is used as a relative pronoun - means it starts a new clause with "that" - subject and a new verb, in this case = "is". Hence, "that" again follows the touch rule and refers to the preceding noun - discus
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