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Is OG hard or is it hard just for me?

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New post 28 Nov 2019, 05:18
Hi all.

I recently started to study GMAT with OG for my first resource.(I went to a prep every weekend for 3 months, it was not very helpful as the prep was focusing on tips but not on basic knowledge at all.)
Then I found out the PS questions are very difficult for me despite I quite well understand basic mass theories. I don't know why I feel the questions are so hard to solve since I must have faced these kinds of questions back in highschool and I was quite well on math.

My verbal score was 16 when I took mock-test, so now I guess maybe this is because I am lack of logical mindset that is required for MBA.. aside from being good enough to do work.
It'a been a 3 full months since I started this unique journey, the fact there are overwhelmingly too much to improve in a month or two months(to apply 2nd rounds) makes me feel so nervous and tired.

Could anyone advise me how to transfrom my brain into logical one, to get a different perspectives and approach GMAT questions?

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New post 28 Nov 2019, 06:23
Hi and welcome to GMAT Club.

You saying you have been studying with OG for 3 months or that you took a course/class 3 months ago? You mentioned some kind of tips. Where did they come from?

In general, the official guide is arranged from easier to harder questions. It’s not an absolute ranking but usually the early questions will be generally easy and the leader questions in each section will be harder. In general, the official guide is arranged from easier to harder questions. It’s not an absolute ranking but usually the early questions will be generally easy and the leader questions in each section will be harder.

Are you having trouble with both quant and verbal? It’s kind of hard to recommend anything if everything needs to be fixed so it probably would be helpful if you could identify a particular area unless it really is everything...

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Hi all.

I recently started to study GMAT with OG for my first resource.(I went to a prep every weekend for 3 months, it was not very helpful as the prep was focusing on tips but not on basic knowledge at all.)
Then I found out the PS questions are very difficult for me despite I quite well understand basic mass theories. I don't know why I feel the questions are so hard to solve since I must have faced these kinds of questions back in highschool and I was quite well on math.

My verbal score was 16 when I took mock-test, so now I guess maybe this is because I am lack of logical mindset that is required for MBA.. aside from being good enough to do work.
It'a been a 3 full months since I started this unique journey, the fact there are overwhelmingly too much to improve in a month or two months(to apply 2nd rounds) makes me feel so nervous and tired.

Could anyone advise me how to transfrom my brain into logical one, to get a different perspectives and approach GMAT questions?

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Hello, koko100. Welcome to the community. It is important not to conflate the GMAT™ with being prepared to earn an MBA. I have worked with plenty of students who may have done well in school but could not cut it when it came to standardized tests. (That is usually why they end up working with a tutor like me in the first place.) In terms of how to progress with regard to GMAT™ prep, try looking up the questions on this site that you have missed from the OG. I cannot sing enough praise for the depth and breadth of the community responses, both from experts and regular test-takers. For Quant, you may need something succinct that goes through each topic, whether that means finding the right book, thoroughly reading the corresponding chapter in the OG, or undertaking an online prep course (several of which are quite affordable for one-month access). For Verbal, you might consider a similar strategy, breaking down the section into its sub-categories of CR, RC, and SC and then further compartmentalizing information to target your weakest areas. Be honest with yourself, and organize the information to keep track of your progress.

Think of the hard work you are willing to put in to earn a place in an MBA program. The GMAT™ is just one component of the larger picture. And when you have a community such as this one to bounce ideas off of, with practice, diligence, and time, you will start to get the ball rolling toward success. Take things one day at a time.

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I was so in panic so my writing was not clear enough for you guys. I spend 3 months for attending weekend GMAT classes at local prep school, apparently I didn't get any from there. I didn't have time to look at OG because the prep school gave me lots of homeworks mainly on Verbal. I memorized all the useful tricks(or tips) there, that can't be useful as I don't have strong foundation and understanding of this exam.
So I am now staring over, I am very dedicated and investing min 4 hours everyday afterwork, no holidays. (I've been studying like this for 3 months, so I think the problem is how I studied)

As non-native English speaker,I know my verbal needs to be improved a lot but the quant is far below level from what I used to study in highschool.
I just found out I don't have strength in both sections even after 3 months, this fact makes me disappointed.

Thanks for your comments

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Hi koko100,

While the OG books are great sources for practice questions, but they're not designed to teach you Tactics, patterns or the little 'secrets' behind the GMAT - for those, you'll need Course-oriented materials. To that end, you might want to work on the OG a little later on in your studies.

Before I can offer you any additional advice for your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

Goals:
3) What is your overall goal score?
4) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
5) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
6) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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Hi koko100,

While the OG books are great sources for practice questions, but they're not designed to teach you Tactics, patterns or the little 'secrets' behind the GMAT - for those, you'll need Course-oriented materials. To that end, you might want to work on the OG a little later on in your studies.

Before I can offer you any additional advice for your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

Goals:
3) What is your overall goal score?
4) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
5) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
6) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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Thanks for your comment, I will answer them below.

1) How many hours do you typically study each week?
- 4 hours a day / 30 hours a week approx.
2) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
- I only took one entire test, scored 400(Quant 31, Verbal 16), November 9th.
3) What is your overall goal score?
- My goal is +700, ideally 750
4) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
- July 2nd, 2020. It will be my second test.
5) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
- 2020 intake, within 3rd round
6) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
- Ideally UCLA, USC, NYU.

I know it's hard yet I cannot give up +700 score for some reasons, so any of your advise will be very helpful for me to reset the way of my study.
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Hi koko100,

To start, the 750+ score is approximately the 98th percentile - meaning that 98% of Test Takers never score that high (regardless of how long they study or the number of times that they take the GMAT). Thankfully, NO Business School requires a score that high - so it's important to realize that the score that you "want" and the score that you "need" are not the same thing. Raising a 400 to the point that you can consistently score 700+ will likely require at least another 3 months of consistent, guided study - and you'll have to make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level.

Since you have taken just 1 practice CAT Test so far - and that was over 3 weeks ago, I suggest that you plan to take another one sometime soon (perhaps this coming weekend). Make sure to take it in a realistic fashion (take the FULL CAT - with the Essay and IR sections, take it away from your home, at the same time of day as when you'll take the Official GMAT, etc.). Once you have that score, you should report back here and we can discuss the results and how best to proceed.

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New post 02 Dec 2019, 19:08
Hi Koko100,

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. The good news is that you’ve given yourself plenty of time to study (up to 8 months), so as long as you work hard and follow a linear and structured study plan, you CAN improve your GMAT score. Regarding how to move forward, would you like some general advice on how to improve your quant and verbal skills? Also, you may find it helpful to read the following articles:

How to Score a 700+ on the GMAT — A Mini Guide for Success

How to Learn More, Learn Faster, and Retain More Knowledge While Preparing for the GMAT
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