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First the setup: perimeter > 8?

x = short side, y = long side, z = diagonal
2x + 2y > 8?
2(x+y) > 8?

[ x+y > 4? ]

1. x^2 + y^2 = (2x)^2
x^2+y^2 = 4x^2
y^2 = 3x^2

No numbers given, NOT SUFF.

2. z = x + 4

since x,y,z is a triangle we know that x+y > z
x + y > z
x + y > x + 4
x + y > x + 4 > 4

x + y > 4, SUFF.

Ans: B
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First the setup: perimeter > 8?

x = short side, y = long side, z = diagonal
2x + 2y > 8?
2(x+y) > 8?

[ x+y > 4? ]

1. x^2 + y^2 = (2x)^2
x^2+y^2 = 4x^2
y^2 = 3x^2

No numbers given, NOT SUFF.

2. z = x + 4

since x,y,z is a triangle we know that x+y > z
x + y > z
x + y > x + 4
x + y > x + 4 > 4

x + y > 4, SUFF.

Ans: B


Agree! B it is.

great explanation by hyperstorm! Forgot about triangle sides properties...
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i would agree with B as well..

just did some approximation..

assume we have a triangle. where the diagonal of hte rectangular is the hyp of the right angle triangle..

(x+4)^2=x^2+y^2

where y is the other side...

you expand the expression you get

y=sqrt(8x+16)

now if assume x=1/8 then

y=sqrt(17) which means y approx equals 4...as you can see clearly the perimeter is going to be longer than 8...

worst case not possible but to try..x=0...
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B.

(1) - diagonal could be .2, short side could be .1 ... or it could also be 200 and 100, INSUFFICIENT

(2) - The hypotenuse is less than the sum of the two other sides of a triangle. If the hypotenuse is 4 greater than the shorter side, the shorter side is .0001, the hypotenuse is 4.0001, and the longer side is > 4, which implies that the perimeter is .0001 + .0001 + >4 + >4 which is >8
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The shortcut explained by Club is perimeter > sum of diagonals

the OA is B
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The shortcut explained by Club is perimeter > sum of diagonals

the OA is B


P = 2 (L +W)

Two sides of a triangle must be larger than the 3rd side.

In essence, the perimeter is two sets of a length and a width. So 2 sets of L+W must be larger than 2 diagonals (the 3rd side).



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