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# Is this a bad question? Or can you use "begun" in a non-past perfect?

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12 Mar 2018, 18:47
Hello,

Can you use begun without "have" or "had"? Take a look at this question. I think the answer should E. But the correct answer, according to PR, is A.

An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women.

1. to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago
2. begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment
3. begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago
4. at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago
5. that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment
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12 Mar 2018, 19:50
jooyoung99 wrote:
Hello,

Can you use begun without "have" or "had"? Take a look at this question. I think the answer should E. But the correct answer, according to PR, is A.

An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women.

1. to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago
2. begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment
3. begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago
4. at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago
5. that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment

This usage seems to be correct because it is being used as modifier.
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12 Mar 2018, 19:55
There is a 4-page discussion of this topic here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/an-attempt-t ... 77214.html

It does seem to raise quite a few of questions.

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12 Mar 2018, 19:59
davidfrank wrote:

This usage seems to be correct because it is being used as modifier.

so when "begun" is used as a modifier, it's okay to not to have it in non-past perfect?

I would've thought it should be "began". Why can't you use "began" as a modifier?
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13 Mar 2018, 01:36
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jooyoung99 wrote:
so when "begun" is used as a modifier, it's okay to not to have it in non-past perfect?

I would've thought it should be "began". Why can't you use "began" as a modifier?

Hi jooyoung99, basically the different verb forms of begin are:

Simple present: Begin
Simple Past: Began

Structure of Past Perfect: have/has + Past Participle

Since Participles are Adjectives (Modifiers), begun used as a modifier is correct.

In fact, had the sentence used began, it would have meant that the sentence was using a simple past tense verb and the sentence would have been incorrect.

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