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https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/01/30/agos Adcom involved with consulting companies?? Apparently the one from Wharton resigned from the consulting company after this news.

solaris1 · Answer

Why am I not surprised. Several universities were being investigated by some State Attorneys General because financial aid officers at these schools were cozying up to certain student loan lenders and driving business towards them by unofficially "recommending" these lenders to unsuspecting students. The financial aid officers received fully paid vacations, gifts etc. from the lenders in return for their "services." Why should ad coms be any different?

If you look at most admissions committees, several officers are just there because they have risen through the ranks of university administration etc. and don't have a lot of "professional business" experience that would really make them qualified to oversee MBA admissions. For instance, I have always (innocently!) wondered how an opera singer with a degree in music gets into supervising MBA admissions in the first place?

For a lot of university staff, a little moonlighting on the side could mean a lot of extra cash for minimal effort. Especially in a lucrative "career" such as that of admissions consulting with a huge, ready and for the most part, captive market.

kwam · Answer

“then the reason you are there is not because you are Joe Smith but rather because Joe Smith’s employment at ABC university is the real gloss here.” There's a GmatClubber involved??? :shock:

Sorry I couldn't help it...

kryzak · Answer

LOL! I knew that Joe Smith was up to no good. Can never trust him...

toDoorNot · Answer

I have always admired Rose's rise to a Director from a temp at Wharton. It takes more than a "formal education" to lead people and strategize. If she was appointed a director over more "educationally qualified" people, says volumes about her personality and leadership skills. As always, she is a living proof that "education" or a "pedigree" is not necessary to reach your goals.

filmcity · Answer

At least I am not surprised.

It is accpeted practice that almost all the top school adcom officers join or start an admission consultancy. That is a reason, IMHO, they put such stress on essays, because that is the only subjective part in the whole application, and it is primariily because of essays these consulting companies survive.

So, it is not surpirsing if some officers are trying to get ahead of the curve and preparing there post-retirement sinecure before even that market gets crowded.

bkk145 · Answer

More of it. These are posted on the S2s Wharton site. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/02/01/wharton https://www.philly.com/inquirer/educatio ... hting.html

riverripper · Answer

Are you kidding...you do realize that the top consultants are tight with adcoms. A lot of former adcoms go to work for them since they probably get a hefty pay raise. Its all a scam, they are just "networking" with the consultants. Heck, sandy made a post about having a meeting with other elite consultants at Tuck with adcoms from top schools discussing the state of b-school admissions.

Many of the people who use consultants have lots money and come from stellar backgrounds, they are getting into schools anyways. It just makes it easier for the schools to ensure these people dont slip through the cracks and get dinged.

That said there is a huge drop off between the elite consultants and the rest. Not in price but in what they really can tell you. However, if you hire sandy's company chances are unless you are some superstar you are getting pawned off on one of his minions. He is too busy posting on BW anyways for your paltry 4K or whatever it is to really get him involved.

I hear that Joe Smith cat is a god with applications.

dabots · Answer

i hear he only has a 33% success rate though :lol:

i kid

riverripper · Answer

33% still far exceeeds the norm for ultra elites. Personally I think its his big mouth not application abilities that negatively affects results. :-D

kryzak · Answer

who is this Joe Smith guy? I'd like to meet him and shut his big mouth up.

riverripper · Answer

Kry, I think Joe Smith will be spending this weekend at Bernie's.

kryzak · Answer

I've heard people have a good time spending weekend at Bernie's.

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