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It is an oversimplified view of cattle raising to say that all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and to drive them to market when the time is ripe.

A. all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and to

B. all one has to do with cattle is to leave them alone to feed themselves, to corral them, and

C. all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves and then corral them and

D. the only thing that has to be done with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and

E. the only thing that has to be done with cattle is to leave them alone while they feed themselves, to corral them, and
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can someone explain why B is incorrect and does C not create parallelism issue?
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It is an oversimplified view of cattle raising to say that all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and to drive them to market when the time is ripe.

A. all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and to

B. all one has to do with cattle is to leave them alone to feed themselves, to corral them, and

C. all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves and then corral them and

D. the only thing that has to be done with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and

E. the only thing that has to be done with cattle is to leave them alone while they feed themselves, to corral them, and

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IMO option D changes the meaning of the original sentence.
Need to know whether option D has any parallelism error?
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It is an oversimplified view of cattle raising to say that all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and to drive them to market when the time is ripe.

A. all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and to

B. all one has to do with cattle is to leave them alone to feed themselves, to corral them, and

C. all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves and then corral them and

D. the only thing that has to be done with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and

E. the only thing that has to be done with cattle is to leave them alone while they feed themselves, to corral them, and



need expert's thoughts as to why D is incorrect and C is more correct.

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D does not have any paralellism error, but it changes the meaning of the sentence. In answers D, E the wording is "the only thing that has to be done is", but there are more than one activities mentioned.
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D does not have any paralellism error, but it changes the meaning of the sentence. In answers D, E the wording is "the only thing that has to be done is", but there are more than one activities mentioned.

Doesn't " all one has to do " imply the same? The main verb begins before all the action words . So it is understood that the main verb implies for every action verb that follows. I don't think your reasoning is quite right.

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For Answer C, "is leave them alone", why not "is leaving them alone" or "is to leave them alone", strange for "be + verb"
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I can see lots of open questions are going on here. Time for me to chime in. :)

This question reinforces the fact that one should focus alot on understanding the meaning of the sentence.

The meaning of the sentence is the current over simplified view is to leave them alone while they are feeding and then corral and drive them to the market. Or I can say corral and drive should happen after they are done with feeding.

Now, let's see what you all are saying. :)

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IMO option D changes the meaning of the original sentence.
Need to know whether option D has any parallelism error?


Hey itisSheldon ,

Yes, D is changing the meaning of the sentence. The sequencing is not maintained in D. It implies leaving them alone, corralling and driving are happening at the same time. Do you see the importance of "then"?

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can someone explain why B is incorrect and does C not create parallelism issue?


Hey Tapesh03 ,

B is incorrect for the same reasons mentioned above for D. Also, B has another issue. B says leave them alone to feed themselves. Meaning the purpose of leaving them is to feed. While the original meaning is while they are feeding, don't dare to disturb them. Do you see how using the infinitive "to feed" changes the meaning?

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need expert's thoughts as to why D is incorrect and C is more correct.
pls guide.


Hey GMAT215 ,

D is incorrect for reasons explained above. Remember "the statement C is more correct" is absolutely incorrect on GMAT. An option is either 100% correct or 100% wrong. :)

AdityaHongunti wrote:
Doesn't " all one has to do " imply the same? The main verb begins before all the action words . So it is understood that the main verb implies for every action verb that follows. I don't think your reasoning is quite right.

Hey AdityaHongunti ,
I agree somewhat to l01os 's explanation. When I am saying "only thing", I can't list out multiple things in the list. "All one has to" opens the doors for multiple things. That could be another reason to reject option D and E.

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For Answer C, "is leave them alone", why not "is leaving them alone" or "is to leave them alone", strange for "be + verb"


Hey colinlin1 ,

We are given a general fact/information here on what is the view. So, there is not need of using present continuous tense. Usually, facts are presented in Simple tense.

Let me know if anyone of you has any question. :)
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Yes, D is changing the meaning of the sentence. The sequencing is not maintained in D. It implies leaving them alone, corralling and driving are happening at the same time. Do you see the importance of "then"?

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I totally agree with you on this.
Need to know whether option D is grammatically correct? And what if option D is the original part of the sentence. Will it be the correct answer?
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I totally agree with you on this.
Need to know whether option D is grammatically correct? And what if option D is the original part of the sentence. Will it be the correct answer?


Hey itisSheldon ,

No, grammatically also it is wrong for the reasons I mentioned in my previous post. ("Only one thing" and "It implies leaving them alone, corralling and driving are happening at the same time.")

Also, had this been the original sentence, I would have rejected it because logically it is giving an incorrect meaning.

Remember: The rule is original meaning of the sentence MUST be maintained if you have an option that is both logically and grammatically correct.
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I go with C for the following reason:

Leave them alone while they feed themselves..... 1st action AND (coral them and drive them) .... 2nd Action Done together when time is ripe Answer should be C. by meaning logical analysis is correct.
I think the strength of question can be increased 10 fold by introducing an option.
All one has to do with cattle is Leave them alone while they feed themselves, Coral them and Drive them to market when time is ripe

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It is an oversimplified view of cattle raising to say that all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and to drive them to market when the time is ripe.

A. all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and to

B. all one has to do with cattle is to leave them alone to feed themselves, to corral them, and

C. all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves and then corral them and

D. the only thing that has to be done with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and

E. the only thing that has to be done with cattle is to leave them alone while they feed themselves, to corral them, and


Imo C

C is correct as it has correct meaning. The main confusion about is the use of two and. The main parallelism is between leave and drive. This one accounts for one and.

Now we have and in leave them alone while they feed themselves and then corral them. This is also correct as this clause internally maintains parallel and sequence.

This is classic case of parallelism in nested sentences.

D is not correct as the sequence is not right.
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D: The only thing that has to be done with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and drive them to market when the time is ripe

Here, it is illogical to equate a PASSIVE ACTION (to be done) with an ACTIVE ACTION ([to] leave them alone).
In addition, it is nonsensical to define a SERIES of actions performed at various times -- while the cattle feed themselves, when the time is ripe -- as THE ONLY THING that has to be done.
Further, it is questionable whether ANY action may rightly be considered a thing.
Eliminate D.
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In C, to take corralling (done for two to three years) and driving to the markets ( for a day or two) as the same function for the sake of parallelism is peculiar.
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D: The only thing that has to be done with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and drive them to market when the time is ripe

Here, it is illogical to equate a PASSIVE ACTION (to be done) with an ACTIVE ACTION ([to] leave them alone).
In addition, it is nonsensical to define a SERIES of actions performed at various times -- while the cattle feed themselves, when the time is ripe -- as THE ONLY THING that has to be done.
Further, it is questionable whether ANY action may rightly be considered a thing.
Eliminate D.


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Do you find the OA correct in this question? How can it be 'is leave'? I think it is 'to leave'? Also, I think the language somehow colloquial.

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D: The only thing that has to be done with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and drive them to market when the time is ripe

Here, it is illogical to equate a PASSIVE ACTION (to be done) with an ACTIVE ACTION ([to] leave them alone).
In addition, it is nonsensical to define a SERIES of actions performed at various times -- while the cattle feed themselves, when the time is ripe -- as THE ONLY THING that has to be done.
Further, it is questionable whether ANY action may rightly be considered a thing.
Eliminate D.


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Do you find the OA correct in this question? How can it be 'is leave'? I think it is 'to leave'? Also, I think the language somehow colloquial.

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OA: all one has to do with cattle is [to] leave them alone
Here, the to in brackets is implied because of the usage of the green to in the preceding clause.

This SC is included in Paper Test 37, an official test published by GMAC.
The paper tests are quite old and were written not by Pearson (the current administer of the GMAT) but by ETS (the former administer).
For this reason, some SCs in the paper tests -- including this SC -- do not seem reflective of the modern GMAT.
I recommend that you disregard this SC.
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GMATGuruNY wrote:
Mo2men wrote:
GMATGuruNY wrote:
D: The only thing that has to be done with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves, corral them, and drive them to market when the time is ripe

Here, it is illogical to equate a PASSIVE ACTION (to be done) with an ACTIVE ACTION ([to] leave them alone).
In addition, it is nonsensical to define a SERIES of actions performed at various times -- while the cattle feed themselves, when the time is ripe -- as THE ONLY THING that has to be done.
Further, it is questionable whether ANY action may rightly be considered a thing.
Eliminate D.


Dear GMATGuruNY

Do you find the OA correct in this question? How can it be 'is leave'? I think it is 'to leave'? Also, I think the language somehow colloquial.

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OA: all one has to do with cattle is [to] leave them alone
Here, the to in brackets is implied because of the usage of the green to in the preceding clause.

This SC is included in Paper Test 37, an official test published by GMAC.
The paper tests are quite old and were written not by Pearson (the current administer of the GMAT) but by ETS (the former administer).
For this reason, some SCs in the paper tests -- including this SC -- do not seem reflective of the modern GMAT.
I recommend that you disregard this SC.


Thanks for your reply.

Regardless of the 'to' in the OA, How does OA maintain parallelism? i.e. How 'and' in both places maintain the parallelism?


C. all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves and then corral them and

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Mo2men wrote:

Regardless of the 'to' in the OA, How does OA maintain parallelism? i.e. How 'and' in both places maintain the parallelism?


C. all one has to do with cattle is leave them alone while they feed themselves and then corral them and drive them to market when the time is right.

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The green and serves to convey that the two connected actions (corral and drive) are both modified by the following adverb (when the time is right).
The red and serves to link the action performed while they feed (one has to leave them) to the two actions performed when the time is right (one has to corral them and drive them).
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