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19 Dec 2019, 14:26
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Hi,
I am currently working at a multinational consulting firm in the U.S. and planning to transfer to the Hong Kong office within the same company next month.
My current title is "Consultant", which is an entry-level position in the U.S. division. I have received an offer from a different branch within the same company in Hong Kong but they've offered me a position of "Associate". They are saying even though they are the same company, the organization structure in the APAC region is different. Their entry level position is "Associate" and then goes up to "Consultant", "Senior Consultant", etc.
I like the type of work they do in Hong Kong but my concern is this might seem like a demotion. For example, my current title is "Consultant" and if I transfer to the Hong Kong office, I will be an Associate. Even if I get a promotion in the future, I will be promoted to "Consultant", which is my current title. I am concerned that this might look really bad on my resume when I apply for top MBA programs in the near future.
I really wish I could keep my current job in the States, but I am not a U.S. citizen and my work visa expires in a month so I have no choice. Is this something I can explain to admission officers or would it raise a flag? I tired to negotiate on the job title but they said "Consultant" in Hong Kong requires at least 2 years of work experience and I only have about 10 months. That's why they are offering their entry-level position, which is "Associate".
If I take this job and get promoted next year, it would be like Consultant(U.S.) - Associate (HK) - Consultant (HK) within the same company on my resume. I wonder if it is going to hurt my chance to get into top MBA programs because they care about how quickly you move up.
I am currently working at a multinational consulting firm in the U.S. and planning to transfer to the Hong Kong office within the same company next month.
My current title is "Consultant", which is an entry-level position in the U.S. division. I have received an offer from a different branch within the same company in Hong Kong but they've offered me a position of "Associate". They are saying even though they are the same company, the organization structure in the APAC region is different. Their entry level position is "Associate" and then goes up to "Consultant", "Senior Consultant", etc.
I like the type of work they do in Hong Kong but my concern is this might seem like a demotion. For example, my current title is "Consultant" and if I transfer to the Hong Kong office, I will be an Associate. Even if I get a promotion in the future, I will be promoted to "Consultant", which is my current title. I am concerned that this might look really bad on my resume when I apply for top MBA programs in the near future.
I really wish I could keep my current job in the States, but I am not a U.S. citizen and my work visa expires in a month so I have no choice. Is this something I can explain to admission officers or would it raise a flag? I tired to negotiate on the job title but they said "Consultant" in Hong Kong requires at least 2 years of work experience and I only have about 10 months. That's why they are offering their entry-level position, which is "Associate".
If I take this job and get promoted next year, it would be like Consultant(U.S.) - Associate (HK) - Consultant (HK) within the same company on my resume. I wonder if it is going to hurt my chance to get into top MBA programs because they care about how quickly you move up.
25 Dec 2019, 08:23
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Hi lauren7158 ..
Welcome to Gmatclub. Unfortunately, you cannot resolve the situation of location. I do not think that it would be taken as negative. It is completely normal that different designation names are given in different countries. You can easily explain this to Ad-coms and interviewers. I would definitely recommend you to highlight your achievements in new locations and try to take leadership roles. Please take it easy. MBA schools are not expecting to have the title changes too frequent. Remember to show in future that you are handling more responsibilities in HK than in US.
Welcome to Gmatclub. Unfortunately, you cannot resolve the situation of location. I do not think that it would be taken as negative. It is completely normal that different designation names are given in different countries. You can easily explain this to Ad-coms and interviewers. I would definitely recommend you to highlight your achievements in new locations and try to take leadership roles. Please take it easy. MBA schools are not expecting to have the title changes too frequent. Remember to show in future that you are handling more responsibilities in HK than in US.
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04 Feb 2021, 08:14
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MBAbot:
Thank you for bringing up this post. It is frequently asked by many of our clients.
In short, title does not really matter for admission! There is an understanding that titles vary from industry to industry, company to company, and region to region. In the case of lauren7158, going from "Consultant" to "Associate" can easily be explained in the optional essay, the resume or a letter of recommendation coming from someone at the company.
The more important thing, is to focus on explaining the progression of your experiences and responsibilities over time in your essays and resumes. If you can effectively illustrate your career growth independent of time and geographic position, you will be entirely fine. The AdCom is not going to think you were demoted so long as you do not overlook that fact in the ways I am suggesting.
In summary, you are right to point out this concern, but misguided to think it is a disadvantage.
Best,
Admissionado
Thank you for bringing up this post. It is frequently asked by many of our clients.
In short, title does not really matter for admission! There is an understanding that titles vary from industry to industry, company to company, and region to region. In the case of lauren7158, going from "Consultant" to "Associate" can easily be explained in the optional essay, the resume or a letter of recommendation coming from someone at the company.
The more important thing, is to focus on explaining the progression of your experiences and responsibilities over time in your essays and resumes. If you can effectively illustrate your career growth independent of time and geographic position, you will be entirely fine. The AdCom is not going to think you were demoted so long as you do not overlook that fact in the ways I am suggesting.
In summary, you are right to point out this concern, but misguided to think it is a disadvantage.
Best,
Admissionado
