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Notice that we are not told that \(x\) and \(y\) are integers.

(1) \(3^x*5^y=75\). If \(x\) and \(y\) are integers then as \(75=3^1*5^2\) then \(x=1\) and \(y=2\) BUT if they are not, then for any value of \(x\) there will exist some non-integer \(y\) to satisfy given expression and vise-versa (for example if \(y=1\) then \(3^x*5^y=3^x*5=75\) hence \(3^x=15\) and \(x= \text{some irrational number} \approx 2.5\)). Not sufficient.

(2) \(3^{(x-1)(y-2)}=1\). This statement basically says that \((x-1)(y-2)=0\). So, either \(x=1\) and \(y\) is ANY number (including 2) or \(y=2\) and \(x\) is ANY number (including 1). Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) If from (2) \(x=1\) then from (1) \(3^x*5^y=3*5^y=75\) giving \(y=2\) and if from (2) \(y=2\) then from (1) \(3^x*5^y=3^x*25=75\) giving \(x=1\). Thus \(x=1\) and \(y=2\). Sufficient.


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Please clarify .

in condition B. if x=1, then y must have to be 2, or if y =2, x is 1. so why not B sufficient? What did i miss?

For (2): if x = 1, why is y necessarily 2? Why cannot it be say 17? The same, if y = 2, why is x necessarily 1? Why cannot it be say -19?
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Hi Bunuel,

In this case, if I consider that:
a) "x" and "y" can be irrational numbers (S1)
b) Either x=1 and y=any number or y=2 and x=any number (S2)

When combining both statements, isn't there a possibility that I can have, for example, y=2 and x=irrational number or x=1 and y=irrational number? In that case I'd obtain different values of x*y.

Thanks for your help.
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Hi Bunuel,

In this case, if I consider that:
a) "x" and "y" can be irrational numbers (S1)
b) Either x=1 and y=any number or y=2 and x=any number (S2)

When combining both statements, isn't there a possibility that I can have, for example, y=2 and x=irrational number or x=1 and y=irrational number? In that case I'd obtain different values of x*y.

Thanks for your help.

(1)+(2) If from (2) \(x=1\) then from (1) \(3^x*5^y=3*5^y=75\) giving \(y=2\) and if from (2) \(y=2\) then from (1) \(3^x*5^y=3^x*25=75\) giving \(x=1\). Thus \(x=1\) and \(y=2\). Sufficient.
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Hi,

am I right to assume that there are infinetly solutions for \(3^x * 5^y\), if x and y don't have to be integers ?

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Hi,

am I right to assume that there are infinetly solutions for \(3^x * 5^y\), if x and y don't have to be integers ?

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Yes, if x and y are not positive integers, \(3^x * 5^y=75\), will have infinitely many solutions.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation.
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Hi Bunuel ,

I have a doubt, please clarify. If equation is compared to 0, in this case (x−1)(y−2)=0 then x will definitely be 1 y will be 2, right? this is how we equate the equation, this is already given. So why B is not sufficient?

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Hi Bunuel ,

I have a doubt, please clarify. If equation is compared to 0, in this case (x−1)(y−2)=0 then x will definitely be 1 y will be 2, right? this is how we equate the equation, this is already given. So why B is not sufficient?

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No. (x−1)(y−2)=0 means that x = 1 OR y = 2. If x = 1, then y can take any value (including 2) and if y = 2, then x can take any value (including 1).
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Bunuel thank you for the quick reply.
Suppose if the question would have explicitily stated that X and Y are integers, in that case could we have said X=1 and Y = 2 definitely?
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Bunuel thank you for the quick reply.
Suppose if the question would have explicitily stated that X and Y are integers, in that case could we have said X=1 and Y = 2 definitely?

No. I think you are missing a point. (x−1)(y−2)=0 means that x = 1 OR y = 2.

So, for example, if x = 1, then y could be ANY number. Say, 5, 7, 2, 17, -12, -14.5, .... The same if y = 2, then x could be ANY number. Say, 8, 11, 21111, 147, -12.4, -14.5, ....
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Bunuel Thanks for the response. I got this point of yours. I am asking if the question stem would have stated that X and Y are integers, then in that case can we say X=1 or Y=2 definitely? means if X=1 then Y = 2 and if Y=2 then X=1 ?
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Bunuel Thanks for the response. I got this point of yours. I am asking if the question stem would have stated that X and Y are integers, then in that case can we say X=1 or Y=2 definitely? means if X=1 then Y = 2 and if Y=2 then X=1 ?

No. I'll try again. (x−1)(y−2)=0 means that x = 1 OR y = 2.

Let me ask you, if x = 1 is it necessary that y = 2? NO. Because if x = 1, then (x−1)(y−2)=0 no matter what the value of y is, INTEGER OR NOT. And if y = 2 is it necessary that x = 1? NO. Because if y = 2, then (x−1)(y−2)=0 no matter what the value of x is, INTEGER OR NOT.
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I have edited the question and the solution by adding more details to enhance its clarity. I hope it is now easier to understand.
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Hi,

am I right to assume that there are infinetly solutions for \(3^x * 5^y\), if x and y don't have to be integers ?

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Yes, if x and y are not positive integers, \(3^x * 5^y=75\), will have infinitely many solutions.

Wouldn't \(3^x * 5^y\) only approximately (not exactly) equal 75 for non-integer values of \(x\) and \(y\)?
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am I right to assume that there are infinetly solutions for \(3^x * 5^y\), if x and y don't have to be integers ?

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Yes, if x and y are not positive integers, \(3^x * 5^y=75\), will have infinitely many solutions.

Wouldn't \(3^x * 5^y\) only approximately (not exactly) equal 75 for non-integer values of \(x\) and \(y\)?

No. For example, if x = 2, then 5^y = 25/3, and y = log(25/3)/log(5) exactly, which is an irrational number approximately equal to 1.3.
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