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# Massive drop in quant and verbal score on test day

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05 Oct 2018, 19:15
Hello experts,
I am writing with utmost dejection.
I have been with GMAT since last 2 month and I have studied for more than 150 hours in this 2 months.

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I was ok with quants and I was scoring 44-45 in q mocks.(4 official mocks I wrote and in all of them I scored in the same range.in my official exam yesterday I scored pathetic 36.how is it possible.in the real exam I thought I was doing really well.

In verbal I enrolled in E-GMAT.I almost solved all their materials and I did all scholoriam questions too.

None actually helped me.i mostly felt that I am really bad in inferring meaning and write the answer.(yesterday in mock I scored v16)

I need some serious help

Please suggest some ways .

My issue is with understanding the question in verbal at hand.

I have to submit my score in next 25 days to the school, so I need to score 5 points more in verbal.

Please suggest me what to do

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05 Oct 2018, 21:58
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Hey kabirdash

Welcome to GMATClub

I'm really sorry about the low score in the mock that you had taken. A V16 most probably
means that you have to relearn a lot of the concepts which you had completed. It is very
important to understand that this score was in which tests. Take a GMATPrep tests, which
can be taken here - https://gmatofficialprep.mba.com/SarasExamPrep#/home
These tests are accurate and the closest in predicting what you may score on the GMAT!

However, if you need only a score of only 5 points more in Verbal - I think it is doable in a
span on 25 days. You must try and understand from the tests that you have taken, which
of the topics are your weak links. At least for these topics, you must get back to the drawing
board and work on the basics.

There is an awesome initiative by our RC moderator, workout which you must definitely
make use of in order to improve your RC in the next 25 days. Practice at least 2-3 official
RC's along with these two RC's that are shared to improve your overall score
https://gmatclub.com/forum/project-rc-b ... 73038.html

You should also work on improving your GMAT Quant score which, IMO, is easiest section
to improve in. This post details that strategy that you need to improve your Quant score.
https://gmatclub.com/forum/how-to-impro ... 41670.html

All the best for the GMAT and do let us know how it goes for you

Hope this helps you!
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06 Oct 2018, 10:03
kabirdash wrote:
Hello experts,
I am writing with utmost dejection.
I have been with GMAT since last 2 month and I have studied for more than 150 hours in this 2 months.

.
I was ok with quants and I was scoring 44-45 in q mocks.(4 official mocks I wrote and in all of them I scored in the same range.in my official exam yesterday I scored pathetic 36.how is it possible.in the real exam I thought I was doing really well.

In verbal I enrolled in E-GMAT.I almost solved all their materials and I did all scholoriam questions too.

None actually helped me.i mostly felt that I am really bad in inferring meaning and write the answer.(yesterday in mock I scored v16)

I need some serious help

Please suggest some ways .

My issue is with understanding the question in verbal at hand.

I have to submit my score in next 25 days to the school, so I need to score 5 points more in verbal.

Please suggest me what to do

Regards

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Hi,

25 days may not be enough to score five points higher in Verbal, but you should try at least as your are not near higher range. Therefore you have enough scope to improve. The main reason for initial score drops is repeated mistakes, and this habit does not change easily.

1. https://blog.targettestprep.com/how-to- ... -on-gmat/#

2. https://magoosh.com/gmat/all-posts-by-category/

3. https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-definiti ... 69705.html
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06 Oct 2018, 15:14
Hi kabirdash,

In early September, you wrote that you would be taking the GMAT in early October (here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-study-p ... l#p2128507). Did you end up taking the GMAT as scheduled (and if you did, then how did you score - including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores?)?

Beyond those questions, before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

1) What study materials have you used so far?
2) How have you scored on EACH of your CATs (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
3) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
4) What are the application deadlines for each of the Programs you plan to apply to?

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06 Oct 2018, 15:16
kabirdash, sorry to hear. If you have not already, please purchase the ESR so you understand what happened on the test day. As much as you can remember, how did you feel about the test while you were taking it?

Please provide us with a more detailed account of your test taking experience and with your ESR, and then we'll talk about what specific course of action you can take.
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06 Oct 2018, 20:43
EMPOWERgmatRichC sir
Thanks for the reply.

1) What study materials have you used so far?-For verbal i used E-GMAT and quants Orian by veritas
2) How have you scored on EACH of your CATs (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?-Q36 V16
3) What Schools are you planning to apply to?-Indian B Schools.Range 650-700
4) What are the application deadlines for each of the Programs you plan to apply to? December

I was scoring good in offcials mocks.I wrote four officials mocks and i was scoring Q44/45 in all of them.In the offcial exam,i was of the view that i did really well in quants.I was expecting q47-48 a.To my utter surprise it is q36l.I checked my ESR too.I have done silly error i think.My strongest section in quants was percent and ratio.Most of the wrong answers were from the this section.

In verbal i have put a lot of effort to increase my score.I almost finished EGMAT verbal material.i did put more thank 180 hours of study in verbal.However i feel i get disconnected with verbal section.Mostly i dont get the meaning of the sentence.I think i have to improve it.Somehow i get disconnected from Verbal.
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06 Oct 2018, 20:55
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Thanks for the reply
I checked my ESR.I think i have done lot of silly errors.Most of the wrong answers were from percentage and ratio section,which is my strongest area.In all my officials mocks i scored q44-45.
I was quite happy with my quants section.When i finished my quants section i thought i answered all question correctly.I think many would be silly error.

In verbal iam having issue with meaning inference. I think i used to do superficial reading not content reading.I am not sure how to improve from here.
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07 Oct 2018, 19:52
Hi kabirdash,

When these types of score drops occur, the two likely "causes" involve either something that was unrealistic during practice or something that was surprising (or not accounted for) on Test Day. If you can answer a few questions, then we should be able to figure this out:

When you took your practice CATs/mocks:
1) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
2) Did you take them at home?
3) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you plan to take your Official GMAT?
4) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
5) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

In addition, while the ESR does not provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong (and what you should work on to score higher). If you send me your ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

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07 Oct 2018, 20:49
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi kabirdash,

When these types of score drops occur, the two likely "causes" involve either something that was unrealistic during practice or something that was surprising (or not accounted for) on Test Day. If you can answer a few questions, then we should be able to figure this out:

When you took your practice CATs/mocks:
1) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
2) Did you take them at home?
3) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you plan to take your Official GMAT?
4) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
5) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

In addition, while the ESR does not provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong (and what you should work on to score higher). If you send me your ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

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EMPOWERgmatRichC sir
Thanks for the reply

1) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)? Yes
2) Did you take them at home?YES
3) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you plan to take your Official GMAT?YES
4) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)? NO
5) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?NO

I have sent my ESR to you.Kindly check your mail.
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08 Oct 2018, 14:02
Hi kabirdash,

I've sent you a PM with some notes on your ESR and some additional suggestions/questions.

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08 Oct 2018, 20:50
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi kabirdash,

I've sent you a PM with some notes on your ESR and some additional suggestions/questions.

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EMPOWERgmatRichC Sir

I have gone through your analysis.

I have sent a PM to you along with details.

Kindly check.

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09 Oct 2018, 09:54
Hi kabirdash,

So, if I’m understanding you correctly, you scored a Q36/V16 on your latest CAT? Please correct me if I’m mistaken.

For quant, although you believe that your score drop was due to careless errors, it’s much more likely that you have many lingering weaknesses that were exposed on test day. For verbal, since you scored a V16, it’s clear that you have many gaps preventing you from improving that score, right? So, as much as it may pain you to do so, you have to go back and start with the foundations of GMAT quant and verbal prior to moving forward to more advanced topics. Furthermore, your study plan must allow you to fully learn each individual quant and verbal topic one at a time, so you can sufficiently find and fix any gaps in your knowledge. That being said, I’m happy to provide some specific advice on how to do so. Let’s start with quant.

Let’s say you are learning about Number Properties. First, you should develop as much conceptual knowledge about Number Properties as possible. In other words, your goal will be to completely understand properties of factorials, perfect squares, quadratic patterns, LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, and remainders, to name a few concepts. After carefully reviewing the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions, practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, it is likely that you will have to work on all three of those aspects, and it is also likely that your Sentence Correction performance has not improved because you have not been working on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not really a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning the grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. Likely, the main reason that Sentence Correction has not "clicked" for you is that you have not put enough work into developing your skill in seeing what is going on in the various versions of the sentence that can be created with the answer choices. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off, and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your Sentence Correction skills improve, you will then want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

In order to follow the path described above, you may consider using an online self-study course, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant and verbal courses.

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