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04 Aug 2011, 06:22
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MGMAT SC incorrect version: She already woke up when the phone rang.
MGMAT SC correct version: She had already woken up when the phone rang.
MGMAT SC explanation:
Already woke up (simple past) should be had already woken up (past perfect). We need to use the past perfect
here because the word already requires this use for a momentary action such as wake up, when placed
prior to another past action. It would be fine to say She was already awake when the phone rang, because was
awake is a state and thus takes up time. In that case, already would indicate that this state was in effect
before the phone rang. However, when you use already with the simple past of a momentary action, you
convey a present perfect meaning. As your spouse shakes you out of bed, you might say I already woke up,
but in proper English you should say I HAVE already woken up. In other words, the action is complete,
AND the effect (your wakefulness) continues to the present. In the sample sentence, since we want the
subject's wakefulness to continue up through some point in the past (when the phone rang), we must use the
past perfect of wake up.
My confusion:
Q1: Can somebody please explain the use of "had woken up" in simpler words? I just can't understand WHY from the above explanation.
Q2: What is the difference between the following 2?
She was already awake when the phone rang. (I don't understand what the heck is the above explanation talking about w.r.t. was awake)
She had already woken up when the phone rang.
MGMAT SC correct version: She had already woken up when the phone rang.
MGMAT SC explanation:
Already woke up (simple past) should be had already woken up (past perfect). We need to use the past perfect
here because the word already requires this use for a momentary action such as wake up, when placed
prior to another past action. It would be fine to say She was already awake when the phone rang, because was
awake is a state and thus takes up time. In that case, already would indicate that this state was in effect
before the phone rang. However, when you use already with the simple past of a momentary action, you
convey a present perfect meaning. As your spouse shakes you out of bed, you might say I already woke up,
but in proper English you should say I HAVE already woken up. In other words, the action is complete,
AND the effect (your wakefulness) continues to the present. In the sample sentence, since we want the
subject's wakefulness to continue up through some point in the past (when the phone rang), we must use the
past perfect of wake up.
My confusion:
Q1: Can somebody please explain the use of "had woken up" in simpler words? I just can't understand WHY from the above explanation.
Q2: What is the difference between the following 2?
She was already awake when the phone rang. (I don't understand what the heck is the above explanation talking about w.r.t. was awake)
She had already woken up when the phone rang.
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04 Aug 2011, 06:29
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Q1: she woke up _before_ the phone rang...to show the time sequence you need to say that she had woken up , then phone rang
Q2: awake, which is a state as stated above, is different from woken up, which is an action
Think of it as "she was in state X when the phone rang" vs "she was performing action Y when the phone rang". Then put these 2 sentences in the past perfect tense to show time sequence.
Q2: awake, which is a state as stated above, is different from woken up, which is an action
Think of it as "she was in state X when the phone rang" vs "she was performing action Y when the phone rang". Then put these 2 sentences in the past perfect tense to show time sequence.
05 Aug 2011, 17:58
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Let us read the sentences - Ultimately MGMAT-SC is putting in words the logic/meaning with grammar.
Hope this helps you...
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Hope this helps you...
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