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Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, and compared with sport utility vehicles, most cost less, get better gas mileage, and make it easy for passengers to get in and out, and have a smoother, more car-like ride.

(A) and make it easy for passengers to get in and out

(B) and allow passengers to get in and out easily

(C) and allow passengers to get in and out more easily

(D) make it easier for passengers when getting in and out

(E) allow passengers to get in and out more easily


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Hi,

here is a question from GMAT Prep 2

I got the question correct, however, when I was reviewing it, I wasn't sure why the correct answer cannot be "D"

can someone explain the difference between D & E?

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Hi,

here is a question from GMAT Prep 2

I got the question correct, however, when I was reviewing it, I wasn't sure why the correct answer cannot be "D"

can someone explain the difference between D & E?

thanks,

In D , after when I would expect a clause, here it's working as a phrase. getting in and getting out should not be split i believe. I would have prefered if the optin was as - make it easier for passengers to get in or get out
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Good job getting rid of A, B, and C for clear list structure/parallelism violations--there are extraneous appearances of "and" in all three, and there is an absence of the comparison marker "more" in A and B.

"When" is indeed usually followed by a clause, although sometimes this clause can appear in reduced form, without the verb "to be" ("When in Rome...do as the Romans do").

One more point about choice D: the expected idiom, as the previous poster included in his/her preferred option, is "make it easy (for someone) TO" do something. The thing that is "made easier" in this case is the action of getting in and out . With "when" replacing the proper preposition "to," the meaning of the sentence becomes unclear. What is the "it" that is made easier for the passengers?

Hope this helps.

PS I don't have a problem with the phrase "getting in and out."
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Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, and compared with sport utility vehicles, most cost less, get better gas mileage, and make it easy for passengers to get in and out, and have a smoother, more car-like ride.

(A) and make it easy for passengers to get in and out

(B) and allow passengers to get in and out easily

(C) and allow passengers to get in and out more easily

(D) make it easier for passengers when getting in and out

(E) allow passengers to get in and out more easily

Option C is incorrect because the list isn't finished and this option shows the start of a new list?
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Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, and compared with sport utility vehicles, most cost less, get better gas mileage, and make it easy for passengers to get in and out, and have a smoother, more car-like ride.

A. and make it easy for passengers to get in and out
B. and allow passengers to get in and out easily
C. and allow passengers to get in and out more easily
D. make it easier for passengers when getting in and out
E. allow passengers to get in and out more easily



This is not from GMATPrep, this is the original question: minivans-carry-as-many-as-seven-passengers-and-compared-103961.html

This is the correct version of it:
Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

fozzzy wrote:
Option C is incorrect because the list isn't finished and this option shows the start of a new list?


Yes. Generally speaking the last element of a list should have "and". "I do X,Y and Z" is correct over "I do X and Y and Z" if we want to make a list
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Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, and compared with sport utility vehicles, most cost less, get better gas mileage, and make it easy for passengers to get in and out, and have a smoother, more car-like ride.

A. and make it easy for passengers to get in and out
B. and allow passengers to get in and out easily
C. and allow passengers to get in and out more easily
D. make it easier for passengers when getting in and out
E. allow passengers to get in and out more easily

Option C is incorrect because the list isn't finished and this option shows the start of a new list?


There is a list ro consider -

Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, and compared with sport utility vehicles,
most cost less,
get better gas mileage,
allow passengers to get in and out more easily ,
and have a smoother, more car-like ride.


This answer will undoubtedly be (E)

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Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, and compared with sport utility vehicles, most cost less, get better gas mileage, and make it easy for passengers to get in and out, and have a smoother, more car-like ride.

A. and make it easy for passengers to get in and out
B. and allow passengers to get in and out easily
C. and allow passengers to get in and out more easily
D. make it easier for passengers when getting in and out
E. allow passengers to get in and out more easily

The theme concentrates on the positive effects of the minivans against the SUVs, they are cost effective, comparative good mileage ,good in/out facility and smooth ride as cars do.


A- another and changes the meaning of the sentence
B-Same
C-Same
D- it has no direct reference, it should refer to minivans, which is plural
E-Correct
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most cost less, get better gas mileage, and make it easy for passengers to get in and out, and have a smoother, more car-like

The comparison should be in parallel. Moreover "and" is used in later part of the sentence, and have a smoother, more car-like. So there is no need to use before it.

So eliminate a, b and c. In D, usage of" it" is wrong.

So E is the answer

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Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, and compared with sport utility vehicles, most cost less, get better gas mileage, and make it easy for passengers to get in and out, and have a smoother, more car-like ride.

A. and make it easy for passengers to get in and out
B. and allow passengers to get in and out easily
C. and allow passengers to get in and out more easily
D. make it easier for passengers when getting in and out
E. allow passengers to get in and out more easily



here non underlined part will provide 3:2 split or rather answer..
we have two "and" in one list , in this case that makes answer choice wrong ..
so we can get rid of A,B,C...
between D and E
E is better than D....
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How option C is wrong here , not able to understand :(
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How option C is wrong here , not able to understand :(


IMO:

we have a list here ,and in the non underlined part we have already "and" to complete the list.All positive aspect in one list....two "and" are not required here .

cost less, get better gas mileage, and make it easy for passengers to get in and out, and have a smoother, more car-like ride.

"and" after" make " is violating the list ....So C is wrong.
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dear experts
mikemcgarry, sayantanc2k, GMATNinjaTwo, GMATNinja,
I know this question is not hard, but anyone of you can help explain what's wrong with D
D) make it easier for passengers when getting in and out
E) allow passengers to get in and out more easily

I read the whole thread, but I am afraid I do not fully agree with the discussion about D
1/ it
I think "it" in choice D is no problematic, because "it" is a dummy pronoun

2/ E is better than D,
I did not choice E because I think the fact that passengers can get in and out more easily is one character of minivans , it is better if describe a character in general pattern, so I think "when getting in and out" is better than "allow" to describe in general pattern, while "allow" feel like "approval".

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mikemcgarry, sayantanc2k, GMATNinjaTwo, GMATNinja,
I know this question is not hard, but anyone of you can help explain what's wrong with D
D) make it easier for passengers when getting in and out
E) allow passengers to get in and out more easily

I read the whole thread, but I am afraid I do not fully agree with the discussion about D
1/ it
I think "it" in choice D is no problematic, because "it" is a dummy pronoun

2/ E is better than D,
I did not choice E because I think the fact that passengers can get in and out more easily is one character of minivans , it is better if describe a character in general pattern, so I think "when getting in and out" is better than "allow" to describe in general pattern, while "allow" feel like "approval".

Thanks a lot
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Dear zoezhuyan,

How are you, my friend? I'm happy to help. :-)

Typically, the structure "make it easy" or "make it easier" is followed by an infinitive, perhaps an infinitive with the subject of the infinitive in a "for" prepositional phrase.
. . . make it easy for passengers to get in and out . . .
Choice (A) would be correct if it didn't have the "and" at the beginning messing up the parallelism.

What's subtle and funny about (D) is that it almost feels as if there's a missing infinitive . . .
. . . make it easier for passengers to do something? when getting in and out . . .
Because the infinitive is so often used, and so often follows a "for" preposition, having something else makes the sentence feel as if an infinitive should be there somehow.

Also, the construction of (D) is technically illogical--it's a colloquial construction that native speakers use frequently in informal conversation, but it doesn't withstand logical analysis. Here's the correct construction again:
. . . make it easy for passengers to get in and out . . .
What is made easier? The act of getting in and out. The "dummy it" refers to the infinitive. That make sense.
Now, (D).
. . . make it easier for passengers when getting in and out . . .
What is made easier? The "dummy it" appears to refer to the subordinate clause beginning with "when." The "when" clause denotes a time. How is time itself "made easier?" Yes, yes, colloquial, people say stuff of this sort all the time ("she made lunchtime easier," "our end-of-year shopping package makes your holidays easier") It's colloquial and technically illogical. What is meant is that we something easier for someone at that time--we didn't make it easier for the time itself.

All of those are problems with (D).

Choice (E) is flawless. The word "allow" is used in an alternate sense. The primary definition has to do with permission ("the teacher allows the student to hand in the assignment a day late"). When it's an individual person doing the "allowing," then that person has the power to grant permission; when it's the law, though, then it's not so much permission as making something possible for law-abiding citizens. For example, on US roads in most places (not NYC), someone driving can make a right turn at a red light after coming to a full stop---the law "allows" drivers to do that--it's not so much a matter of anyone's "permission," but just the fact that this is a possible legal move. Yes, presumably one always could choose to break the law, but assuming that we want to be on the right side of the law, such an action is possible when the law allows it.

Now, rather than the political & social law, think of natural law, such as the Theory of Relativity. For example, the General Theory of Relativity allows for the existence of black holes. Elementary Quantum Mechanics allows an electron, under certain conditions, not to have a definite position. These are not a matter of permission at all, because no human decision makes these things true--each is simply something possible under the theory. All this opens up a more general definition of the verb "allow" when people are not involved. When an inanimate object "allows" something, it is simply makes that thing possible.

With this in mind, look at (E):
Minivans . . . allow passengers to get in and out more easily
In other words,
Minivans . . . make it possible for passengers to get in and out more easily
That is the intended meaning, and the parallelism is correct.

Does all this make sense?
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D - when getting in and out..may be valid for both the van and people.
E - clearly maintains parallelism and clearly indicates whom in and out refers to


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