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Savings from Discounted Registration: $25
Savings per day if implementing ROB:
The savings would then be: $104 - $79 = $25 for one day
The saving for two days would be: $50

A study has shown that if this registration discount is equal to at least half the potential savings of an attendee's particular cost-saving strategy, the attendee is much more likely to reserve a room within the block.

half of $50= $25 which is equal to Savings from Discounted Registration .

So it is No for HMHPA . Am I not correct ?
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Your logic is sound but read the question once again. It is asking whether a person would spend less by using the ROB. The answer is yes, because $50>$25.

Now lets change the question.

Is an HMHPA attendee likely to stay in the block or to use the ROB?
Then the answer would be: the attendee would most likely stay in the block because the registration discount is equal to at least half the potential savings in the ROB strategy.

So basically, the question is simply asking which number is greater, not about the likelihood of an attendee staying within the block. Hope this makes sense!
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Dear Experts, KarishmaB AndrewN RonTargetTestPrep @ReedArnorldMPREP

I read all comments and read the passage 3 times.

I can not understand what the ROHH and ROHH's formula are and what the ROB and the ROB's formula are..

Could you please provide some guides here?


Also, I am wondering Q3

Why is the registration fee not counted?

If the registration is counted, the answer will be No ; No ; No
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Dear Experts, KarishmaB AndrewN RonTargetTestPrep @ReedArnorldMPREP

I read all comments and read the passage 3 times.

I can not understand what the ROHH and ROHH's formula are and what the ROB and the ROB's formula are..

Could you please provide some guides here?


Also, I am wondering Q3

Why is the registration fee not counted?

If the registration is counted, the answer will be No ; No ; No

ROHH - Reserve room outside Host Hotel (when an attendee reserves a room outside the host hotel). The attendee could pay a much lower price for example someone attending the conference sponsored by AMG could book a room in Hilton (instead of Garden Inn) for $70 and save $120 - $70 = $50.

ROB - Reserve room outside Block (When an attendee reserves a room in the host hotel but not in the block reserved for conference attendees). An attendee attending the conference sponsored by AMG could book a room in Garden Inn but not in the block and hence pay only $65.

As for question 3, note that the hotel doesn't get the registration fee. It is the organisation that gets it.
An organization sponsoring a conference can recoup these expenses through registration fees and partnership with the host hotel. As part of the partnership, the host hotel sets aside a block of rooms for conference attendees, with rooms available at a slightly higher-than-normal rate.
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Dear Experts, KarishmaB AndrewN RonTargetTestPrep @ReedArnorldMPREP

I read all comments and read the passage 3 times.

I can not understand what the ROHH and ROHH's formula are and what the ROB and the ROB's formula are..

Could you please provide some guides here?


Also, I am wondering Q3

Why is the registration fee not counted?

If the registration is counted, the answer will be No ; No ; No

ROHH - Reserve room outside Host Hotel (when an attendee reserves a room outside the host hotel). The attendee could pay a much lower price for example someone attending the conference sponsored by AMG could book a room in Hilton (instead of Garden Inn) for $70 and save $120 - $70 = $50.

ROB - Reserve room outside Block (When an attendee reserves a room in the host hotel but not in the block reserved for conference attendees). An attendee attending the conference sponsored by AMG could book a room in Garden Inn but not in the block and hence pay only $65.

As for question 3, note that the hotel doesn't get the registration fee. It is the organisation that gets it.
An organization sponsoring a conference can recoup these expenses through registration fees and partnership with the host hotel. As part of the partnership, the host hotel sets aside a block of rooms for conference attendees, with rooms available at a slightly higher-than-normal rate.


Hello KarishmaB Mam,
For question no.3 part (1) i.e. "Asiawest Center" as it can be seen from the table that Block rates for all the 3 conferences held in Asiawest Center are greater as compared to Room Outside the block rate(ROB) , so the conference organizers would definitely have to pay the reimbursement. - Yes
But the official answer is No.
How ? Kindly Elaborate.
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Dear Experts, KarishmaB AndrewN RonTargetTestPrep @ReedArnorldMPREP

I read all comments and read the passage 3 times.

I can not understand what the ROHH and ROHH's formula are and what the ROB and the ROB's formula are..

Could you please provide some guides here?


Also, I am wondering Q3

Why is the registration fee not counted?

If the registration is counted, the answer will be No ; No ; No

ROHH - Reserve room outside Host Hotel (when an attendee reserves a room outside the host hotel). The attendee could pay a much lower price for example someone attending the conference sponsored by AMG could book a room in Hilton (instead of Garden Inn) for $70 and save $120 - $70 = $50.

ROB - Reserve room outside Block (When an attendee reserves a room in the host hotel but not in the block reserved for conference attendees). An attendee attending the conference sponsored by AMG could book a room in Garden Inn but not in the block and hence pay only $65.

As for question 3, note that the hotel doesn't get the registration fee. It is the organisation that gets it.
An organization sponsoring a conference can recoup these expenses through registration fees and partnership with the host hotel. As part of the partnership, the host hotel sets aside a block of rooms for conference attendees, with rooms available at a slightly higher-than-normal rate.


Hello KarishmaB Mam,
For question no.3 part (1) i.e. "Asiawest Center" as it can be seen from the table that Block rates for all the 3 conferences held in Asiawest Center are greater as compared to Room Outside the block rate(ROB) , so the conference organizers would definitely have to pay the reimbursement. - Yes
But the official answer is No.
How ? Kindly Elaborate.


Note what the question tells us: Assume that host hotels receive a reimbursement from the conference organizers for 25% of the block rate per night for each unoccupied room in the conference block.

Look at CDA conference - Asia west center Block Room - $190, ROB - $185
So if someone doesn't take the Block room but opts for ROB for $185, the CDA pays the hotel 25% of the Block room cost i.e. around $50. So the hotel gets $185 from ROB and another almost $50 from CDA and hence the hotel does not lose money.
Answer 'No'
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­My understanding of Q6 in case it helps.Q6: Which one of the following conferences is most likely to have attendees favoring the ROB strategy over the ROHH strategy?

E) WWLOP
Cost in ROB = 475 + 2(155)
Cost in ROHH = 475 + 2(65).
Would not prefer ROB over ROHH.

D, C, B) RCD, QRTA, CDA - similar story. For example, take CDA.
Cost in ROB = 450 + 2(185)
Cost in ROHH = 450 + 2(65).
Would not prefer ROB over ROHH.

A) AMG
Cost in ROB = 225 + 2 (65) = $355
Cost in ROHH = 225 + 2 (65) = $355
The cost is the same. But given that in ROB, the attendee will be staying in the same hotel, ROB would likely be favored over ROHH.

What I mean is -> the AMG conference is at the Garden Inn hotel. Remember that attendees use strategies like ROB and ROHH to avoid the extra cost - given. This means that they are not likely to choose a different hotel just willy-nilly, it is a cost-based decision.
So, if the cost is same between a room in the same hotel but different block (ROB) and a room in a different hotel (ROHH), the attendee will likely prefer a room in the same hotel (Garden Inn). Which is why choice A is correct here in my view.

About Question 5 ->

Discounted registration fee is only offered when an attendee chooses to stay in a hotel within the block (not ROB, not ROHH). In ROB or ROHH, the attendee does not get any savings from discounted registration fee. Hence, discounted registration fee does not add to savings in ROB or ROHH.

This line is important to solve this question - "A study has shown that if this registration discount is equal to at least half the potential savings of an attendee's particular cost-saving strategy, the attendee is much more likely to reserve a room within the block."

What this means ->
Registration Discount Amount >=1/2(Cost per room per attendee in ROB/ROHH for the two days - Cost per room per attendee in normal scenario for the 2 days)

Registration Discount Amount >= 1/2 * (X-Y) * 2
So, Least Registration Discount Amount = X - Y

Hope this helps.

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For Question 6, I chose (A) AMG because I thought that ROB ($65), the lowest fare available in the table, should be favored over ROHH. Since ROHH involves choosing a hotel room outside the host hotel, the lowest fare would be $70. Although I got the right answer, I don't understand the official explanation. It stated "The conference sponsored by AMG is the only conference in which the cost of employing the ROHH strategy ($65 per night) is equal to the cost of employing the ROB strategy ($65 per night)." Why is ROHH $65 here? ROHH should involve reserving a room outside the host hotel, so it cannot be the Garden Inn's lowest fare.

Could you please explain this part?­
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For Question 6, I chose (A) AMG because I thought that ROB ($65), the lowest fare available in the table, should be favored over ROHH. Since ROHH involves choosing a hotel room outside the host hotel, the lowest fare would be $70. Although I got the right answer, I don't understand the official explanation. It stated "The conference sponsored by AMG is the only conference in which the cost of employing the ROHH strategy ($65 per night) is equal to the cost of employing the ROB strategy ($65 per night)." Why is ROHH $65 here? ROHH should involve reserving a room outside the host hotel, so it cannot be the Garden Inn's lowest fare.

Could you please explain this part?­
­It asks in which case it's more likely to have ROB strategy ?

Case1: ROHH costs 40$ ----- ROB costs 40$
Case2: ROHH costs 40$ ----- ROB costs 45$

In which case would someone more Likely choose ROB ?­ Surely Case1 over Case2.­ It's comparitive.
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In this question, how are you supposed to know if the registration fee applies twice because you have to have two people in the room? If this was the case you would arrive at E
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In this question, how are you supposed to know if the registration fee applies twice because you have to have two people in the room? If this was the case you would arrive at E

This is a pretty nasty question. It does say that room rates are based on 2-person occupancy so I guess you would have to assume that there has to be 2 registrations or half a room type of thing... there are also 2 nights...
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In this question, how are you supposed to know if the registration fee applies twice because you have to have two people in the room? If this was the case you would arrive at E

This is a pretty nasty question. It does say that room rates are based on 2-person occupancy so I guess you would have to assume that there has to be 2 registrations or half a room type of thing... there are also 2 nights...
I’m not seeing it say anywhere that it’s one registration per room or that it’s one registration per candidate explicitly. It’s pretty ambiguous on this.
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Hi everyone,
I have an issue with Q6 here.

The thing is, before solving this MSR set of questions, I solved the below one:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/seven-spring-break-destinations-are-offered-for-spring-break-tourists-321701.html
This is a similar question, but a different situation.

So, similar to Q6 here (conference MSR), there is a question in the above-linked case (spring break MSR), which is Q3.

While solving that question, I chose "Miami" as the answer (my reasoning was the same as everyone else's here about why one would choose ROB over ROHH in case of AMG), but it was incorrect, and I still didn't get the solution mentioned there.
So I moved to this (conference) question, and found that here "AMG" is correct.

My problem is, what is the reasoning behind the solution? I don't think it is what is mentioned here, because that would mean the OA in the spring break MSR Q3 is incorrect.

It would be really helpful if anyone could help understand this discrepancy.

Thank you

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In this question, how are you supposed to know if the registration fee applies twice because you have to have two people in the room? If this was the case you would arrive at E

This is a pretty nasty question. It does say that room rates are based on 2-person occupancy so I guess you would have to assume that there has to be 2 registrations or half a room type of thing... there are also 2 nights...
I’m not seeing it say anywhere that it’s one registration per room or that it’s one registration per candidate explicitly. It’s pretty ambiguous on this.


It says this:

Conference attendees will require two nights lodging, and all room rates are per guest, per night, assuming two guests per room.
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Hi. Wow. You are bringing 2 MSR's together 😂🤯

The OA in the spring break question you are references appears to be incorrect and Miami should be the correct answer. I have made a comment the spring break question could work, though I doubt it was intended that way.

AMG Is the correct answer for Q6 in this question.




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I have an issue with Q6 here.

The thing is, before solving this MSR set of questions, I solved the below one:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/seven-spring-break-destinations-are-offered-for-spring-break-tourists-321701.html
This is a similar question, but a different situation.

So, similar to Q6 here (conference MSR), there is a question in the above-linked case (spring break MSR), which is Q3.

While solving that question, I chose "Miami" as the answer (my reasoning was the same as everyone else's here about why one would choose ROB over ROHH in case of AMG), but it was incorrect, and I still didn't get the solution mentioned there.
So I moved to this (conference) question, and found that here "AMG" is correct.

My problem is, what is the reasoning behind the solution? I don't think it is what is mentioned here, because that would mean the OA in the spring break MSR Q3 is incorrect.

It would be really helpful if anyone could help understand this discrepancy.

Thank you

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Hey gchandana,

I agree with [color=#ff0000]bb[/color] about something being off with the Spring Break MSR Q3.

In my view ->

(1) Q3 from the Spring Break MSR -> is incorrect. I would ignore this one.
(2) Q6 from this MSR (Conference) -> is correct. The reasoning employed here is correct. I would learn from this one.

A sidenote -> I think there is a clerical, copy-paste error in this MSR. I haven't checked if this error exists in the current OG.



Hope this helps!
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Hi everyone,
I have an issue with Q6 here.

The thing is, before solving this MSR set of questions, I solved the below one:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/seven-spring-break-destinations-are-offered-for-spring-break-tourists-321701.html
This is a similar question, but a different situation.

So, similar to Q6 here (conference MSR), there is a question in the above-linked case (spring break MSR), which is Q3.

While solving that question, I chose "Miami" as the answer (my reasoning was the same as everyone else's here about why one would choose ROB over ROHH in case of AMG), but it was incorrect, and I still didn't get the solution mentioned there.
So I moved to this (conference) question, and found that here "AMG" is correct.

My problem is, what is the reasoning behind the solution? I don't think it is what is mentioned here, because that would mean the OA in the spring break MSR Q3 is incorrect.

It would be really helpful if anyone could help understand this discrepancy.

Thank you

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Because it is provided in the paragraph "The lowest rate for an available room in City X on this same weekend is $65."
Hence ROHH is 65$
Seems like you are confusing between ROHH and ROB and Within block.
Here ROB - which is lakefront - is also 65$ for AMB
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For Question 6, I chose (A) AMG because I thought that ROB ($65), the lowest fare available in the table, should be favored over ROHH. Since ROHH involves choosing a hotel room outside the host hotel, the lowest fare would be $70. Although I got the right answer, I don't understand the official explanation. It stated "The conference sponsored by AMG is the only conference in which the cost of employing the ROHH strategy ($65 per night) is equal to the cost of employing the ROB strategy ($65 per night)." Why is ROHH $65 here? ROHH should involve reserving a room outside the host hotel, so it cannot be the Garden Inn's lowest fare.

Could you please explain this part?­
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