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This is good, but don't worry about the names of the tenses too much. They're pretty easy to understand from examples, so just remember the correct examples and you'll be fine. Besides, most of the time the GMAT only cares about simple tenses and gerunds, anyways, so this level of detail is superfluous for most GMAT takers.
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Re: Has/Have/Had been - Difference [#permalink]
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abiraami wrote:
Hi,
that was a very nice brief about the concept. I have a question about the below usage. Please help.
1)She has been living in this house for a while (what is the tense of this sentence - present perfect continuous?)
2) she has lived in this house for a while( present perfect tense)
Now what is the difference between both the sentences in terms of meaning?
in both the sentences she lived in the past and still continues to live -??
Please explain.
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Those sentences are both correct, and you'e right on what they're called. The first would be present perfect continuous, the second would be present perfect. There's no difference in meaning. A good rule of thumb for the continuous tenses on GMAT SC, though, is to only use them if there's a good reason to, or if you have no other good options. Usually, they're wrong, although not always. :)

Normally, they're used to specifically emphasize that something is ongoing right now:

'She was running for mayor' = emphasizes that she was in the middle of running for mayor right at the specific time we're talking about
'She ran for mayor' = she ran for mayor at some point in the past

If there's no clear reason to emphasize that something is 'ongoing' in the sentence, then you probably don't need a continuous verb.



Don't we use the present perfect when something happened in the past but we do not know exactly when: I recently have eaten my breakfast
And the continuous form for indicating that it started in the past and is ongoing in the present: I have been living in France ?

You said the meaning is the same, but are the implications also the same ?

And the most important thing: Is the difference relevant on the test ? ^^
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ccooley wrote:
abiraami wrote:
Hi,
that was a very nice brief about the concept. I have a question about the below usage. Please help.
1)She has been living in this house for a while (what is the tense of this sentence - present perfect continuous?)
2) she has lived in this house for a while( present perfect tense)
Now what is the difference between both the sentences in terms of meaning?
in both the sentences she lived in the past and still continues to live -??
Please explain.
Thanks,
Abi


Those sentences are both correct, and you'e right on what they're called. The first would be present perfect continuous, the second would be present perfect. There's no difference in meaning. A good rule of thumb for the continuous tenses on GMAT SC, though, is to only use them if there's a good reason to, or if you have no other good options. Usually, they're wrong, although not always. :)

Normally, they're used to specifically emphasize that something is ongoing right now:

'She was running for mayor' = emphasizes that she was in the middle of running for mayor right at the specific time we're talking about
'She ran for mayor' = she ran for mayor at some point in the past

If there's no clear reason to emphasize that something is 'ongoing' in the sentence, then you probably don't need a continuous verb.



Don't we use the present perfect when something happened in the past but we do not know exactly when: I recently have eaten my breakfast
And the continuous form for indicating that it started in the past and is ongoing in the present: I have been living in France ?

You said the meaning is the same, but are the implications also the same ?

And the most important thing: Is the difference relevant on the test ? ^^


It's one of those things where some people 'feel' a slight difference in meaning. It's hard to put your finger on exactly what the difference is. I know that the difference isn't exactly what you're saying it is, though - because you can definitely use the present perfect for things that continue into the present. For instance:

'Your patient has waited for six hours.'
'Your patient has been waiting for six hours.'

Those seem to mean the same thing (started in the past, no definite end time) to me.

But you're asking the right question - is it important on the test? The answer to that is 'almost certainly not'. With verb tenses, here's what you really want to think about:

1. Are you breaking one of the rules of verb tense? (For instance, are you trying to use the present perfect with an activity that has a clear end point, like 'I have eaten six hours ago'?) Then it's wrong.
2. Are you using a blatantly illogical verb tense? (For instance, if the rest of the sentence is in the past, and you start using the present, even though you're talking about the same time period.)
3. Are you using one of the 'weird tenses' (like continuous) for no clear reason, when you have the option to use a 'standard' one?
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Don't we use the present perfect when something happened in the past but we do not know exactly when: I recently have eaten my breakfast
And the continuous form for indicating that it started in the past and is ongoing in the present: I have been living in France ?

You said the meaning is the same, but are the implications also the same ?

And the most important thing: Is the difference relevant on the test ? ^^

Hi asdfghjklasdfghj, these are two different usages of present perfect (depicted in Scenario-1 and Scenario-3 in the attached document), namely:

i) An event that has happened at some unspecified point before current time

ii) An event started in the past and is still continuing

Normally, if the event is discrete (such as had breakfast, finished homework, watched movie etc.), then it belongs to category i) above.

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses Present perfect tense, its application and examples in significant detail. Have attached the corresponding section, for reference.
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