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11 Aug 2018, 12:56
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Hey guys,
Whereas my Quant is pretty stable 48-50, my verbal jumps substantially 30-40. Yet this is the half of the issue, the most striking is that with similar scenarios I get different scores (40 vs 35). Attaching screenshots.
P.S. I have to admit that in the last part 28-36 I always have to skip 3-5 questions, because I have to finish before time is up. I'm a veeeeery slow reader:
Avarage to answer: CR -3.00 min, RC 2.15 min, SC 2 min.
Any real suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks.
EMPOWERgmatRichC I know that you have done a lot of comments on the topics like this. What do you think? Thanks.
Whereas my Quant is pretty stable 48-50, my verbal jumps substantially 30-40. Yet this is the half of the issue, the most striking is that with similar scenarios I get different scores (40 vs 35). Attaching screenshots.
P.S. I have to admit that in the last part 28-36 I always have to skip 3-5 questions, because I have to finish before time is up. I'm a veeeeery slow reader:
Avarage to answer: CR -3.00 min, RC 2.15 min, SC 2 min.
Any real suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks.
EMPOWERgmatRichC I know that you have done a lot of comments on the topics like this. What do you think? Thanks.
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12 Aug 2018, 12:43
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Hi Hero8888,
While it's understandable that you might want to know more about why you receive the scores that you receive, the subjects that you're asking about are NOT relevant to what you actually need to hit a V40.
You do NOT need to be a 'fast' reader to score at a high level on the GMAT; you DO need to be 'efficient' though (and that includes how you handle your note-taking and organization). Based on the information that you have provided, it appears that "your ways" of handling the various question types in Verbal section are inefficient overall - which is why most questions take you longer to solve than they should. It's also likely that on too many questions you "narrow the answers down to 2 choices" and then "guess." From a probability-standpoint, you're going to get HALF of those questions wrong - which would almost certainly limit how high you could score on Test Day (especially if you take that type of approach too often); during your studies, you might also periodically be "luckier" on a CAT and receive a score result that you can't repeat.
Thankfully, the Verbal section of the GMAT is as consistent and predicable as the Quant section is, so you CAN train to score at a higher level. The key word there is 'train' though - you have to focus on learning and practicing the proper Tactics - along with doing all of the necessary note-taking on your pad - to earn that higher Score.
Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
Studies:
1) What study materials have you used so far?
2) What 'steps' do you go through when dealing with a typical, RC, SC or CR prompt?
Goals:
3) What is your goal score?
4) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
5) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
6) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
While it's understandable that you might want to know more about why you receive the scores that you receive, the subjects that you're asking about are NOT relevant to what you actually need to hit a V40.
You do NOT need to be a 'fast' reader to score at a high level on the GMAT; you DO need to be 'efficient' though (and that includes how you handle your note-taking and organization). Based on the information that you have provided, it appears that "your ways" of handling the various question types in Verbal section are inefficient overall - which is why most questions take you longer to solve than they should. It's also likely that on too many questions you "narrow the answers down to 2 choices" and then "guess." From a probability-standpoint, you're going to get HALF of those questions wrong - which would almost certainly limit how high you could score on Test Day (especially if you take that type of approach too often); during your studies, you might also periodically be "luckier" on a CAT and receive a score result that you can't repeat.
Thankfully, the Verbal section of the GMAT is as consistent and predicable as the Quant section is, so you CAN train to score at a higher level. The key word there is 'train' though - you have to focus on learning and practicing the proper Tactics - along with doing all of the necessary note-taking on your pad - to earn that higher Score.
Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
Studies:
1) What study materials have you used so far?
2) What 'steps' do you go through when dealing with a typical, RC, SC or CR prompt?
Goals:
3) What is your goal score?
4) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
5) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
6) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
12 Aug 2018, 13:41
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Hi Rich EMPOWERgmatRichC,
Thank you for the prompt response!
Correct, in some (I would say 33% of RC, RC, SC) cases I'm left with 2 answer choices, trying to pick one (takes 30-40 sec) and if I can't so, then I guess and move on. So I miss in total 6-8 min on this issue.
CR: MGMAT
RC: E-GMAT
RC:
Process: Reading a passage 4-5 min. Prethinking 15 sec. POE 1 min. I don't have issues with questions about role of a paragraph, structure or main idea - questions related to notetaking. My mistakes are related to: role of the highlighted text, inference, detail questions - here I'm left with 2 answer choices and I guess.
Timing: 2.15 min
Accuracy 85-90%.
CR: Process: 1.20 min for reading the question type (first step) and stem (second step). Then, I just write down "premise -->conclusuion" If I'm given % changes by years or subgroup of a group, I also make visual diagrams 20-30 sec. POE 1 min. If I'm left with 2 options + 30sec to choose and move on. One of the issues: in 70% of cases I just can not prethink and move to POE.
Timing: 3 min
Current accuracy 80%.
SC:
Process: 1 min to read and digest the original sentence to understand the context and find grammatical mistakes. 40 sec to POE. If left with 2 I need another 20-30 sec to decide between them.
Timing: 1.40 - 2.00 min.
Current accuracy 85-95%.
Goals:
V40 (current range 35-40), Q 50 (current range 48-50)
Thank you for the prompt response!
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Correct, in some (I would say 33% of RC, RC, SC) cases I'm left with 2 answer choices, trying to pick one (takes 30-40 sec) and if I can't so, then I guess and move on. So I miss in total 6-8 min on this issue.
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SC: E-GMAT and MGMAT for as basic grammar, GCLUB for practicing and reading explanations of Experts.
CR: MGMAT
RC: E-GMAT
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RC:
Process: Reading a passage 4-5 min. Prethinking 15 sec. POE 1 min. I don't have issues with questions about role of a paragraph, structure or main idea - questions related to notetaking. My mistakes are related to: role of the highlighted text, inference, detail questions - here I'm left with 2 answer choices and I guess.
Timing: 2.15 min
Accuracy 85-90%.
CR: Process: 1.20 min for reading the question type (first step) and stem (second step). Then, I just write down "premise -->conclusuion" If I'm given % changes by years or subgroup of a group, I also make visual diagrams 20-30 sec. POE 1 min. If I'm left with 2 options + 30sec to choose and move on. One of the issues: in 70% of cases I just can not prethink and move to POE.
Timing: 3 min
Current accuracy 80%.
SC:
Process: 1 min to read and digest the original sentence to understand the context and find grammatical mistakes. 40 sec to POE. If left with 2 I need another 20-30 sec to decide between them.
Timing: 1.40 - 2.00 min.
Current accuracy 85-95%.
Goals:
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V40 (current range 35-40), Q 50 (current range 48-50)
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Tll the end of August 2018. In extreme case till the end of September 2018
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Oct., 2018
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Choice: 1. Columbia, 2. Booth 3. MIT
13 Aug 2018, 15:47
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Hi Hero8888,
From what you describe, there are some inefficiencies with your 'default' ways of handling the Verbal section. Before we discuss those issues though, I have a few questions about your prior studies:
1) You have a prior Official Score (the 630). Is that the only Official Score you have or have you taken the GMAT more than once?
2) When you studied for the GMAT before, what 'brands' of CATs did you use? What 'brands' of CATs have you used since then?
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
From what you describe, there are some inefficiencies with your 'default' ways of handling the Verbal section. Before we discuss those issues though, I have a few questions about your prior studies:
1) You have a prior Official Score (the 630). Is that the only Official Score you have or have you taken the GMAT more than once?
2) When you studied for the GMAT before, what 'brands' of CATs did you use? What 'brands' of CATs have you used since then?
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
