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04 Apr 2022, 20:32
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Hi, I’m applying to HBS 2+2 and Stanford Deferred enrolment and would greatly appreciate a profile evaluation and any advice!
Background:
Final year mid Ivy STEM Major (21 M)
International student; first gen in terms of parents not going to a 4 year bachelors
Asian ethnically but from a predominantly white country
Graduating in 3 years with a 3.85
GRE: Verbal 168, Quant 159
Work Experience:
Incoming Kleiner Perkins Fellow and Associate Product Manager at a top program (~10 people each year from 4000+ applicants)
Summer Analyst at McKinsey NY
Product intern at a top startup funded by YC and tier 1 investors (sequoia, a16z).
Led and closed seed stage venture deals with 100-250k check sizes for a student led fund.
Extracurriculars:
Division 1 athlete for a few years but quit in final year.
Various leadership roles in generic clubs.
Founded a small club - limited traction but surviving.
Reasons for applying:
It would derisk pathways like quitting my job to do a crypto startup or similarly risky options.
My GRE quant is low, should I try to explain it? I didn’t know that you could only use a white board and not paper in the at home GRE, so I had to do all the math in my head - scored much higher on the free practices. I have a few quant heavy courses on my transcript that I did ok in though. I’m worried explaining it will make me look like I was clueless about the GRE and unprepared - which I honestly was and I hate standardised testing so I will not retake it.
Thanks, would greatly appreciate some odds. I don’t think I will apply to other deferred programs because I wouldn’t commit to them knowing that it would cut me off from reapplying to HBS or GSB later on.
Background:
Final year mid Ivy STEM Major (21 M)
International student; first gen in terms of parents not going to a 4 year bachelors
Asian ethnically but from a predominantly white country
Graduating in 3 years with a 3.85
GRE: Verbal 168, Quant 159
Work Experience:
Incoming Kleiner Perkins Fellow and Associate Product Manager at a top program (~10 people each year from 4000+ applicants)
Summer Analyst at McKinsey NY
Product intern at a top startup funded by YC and tier 1 investors (sequoia, a16z).
Led and closed seed stage venture deals with 100-250k check sizes for a student led fund.
Extracurriculars:
Division 1 athlete for a few years but quit in final year.
Various leadership roles in generic clubs.
Founded a small club - limited traction but surviving.
Reasons for applying:
It would derisk pathways like quitting my job to do a crypto startup or similarly risky options.
My GRE quant is low, should I try to explain it? I didn’t know that you could only use a white board and not paper in the at home GRE, so I had to do all the math in my head - scored much higher on the free practices. I have a few quant heavy courses on my transcript that I did ok in though. I’m worried explaining it will make me look like I was clueless about the GRE and unprepared - which I honestly was and I hate standardised testing so I will not retake it.
Thanks, would greatly appreciate some odds. I don’t think I will apply to other deferred programs because I wouldn’t commit to them knowing that it would cut me off from reapplying to HBS or GSB later on.
11 Apr 2022, 18:21
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Hi Octopus, just seeing this now. I think it's certainly worth a shot and assume you applied! These programs are holistic, but even more unpredictable in the early-admit stage. I think the question I always ask is: why should they admit you early? Often the answer is because they think they might not see you later in the process (STEM applicants, sometimes women), or because they think it will provide them with other diversity and possibly give you a boost in your career in the process, or because you are so compelling they just want you in the fold early. You seem like a success-oriented person, enrolled at an Ivy with a good GPA despite accelerated timing and Division I athletic commitment 3/4 years and high profile internships. You seem more like the third bucket than the other 2, but I can see your interest in risk-taking putting you in the first. You'd want a passionate vision for what you are trying to accomplish with this risk if that's your strategy.
It's impossible to predict your odds, as there's so much we don't see, not just from the elements not captured here (what's your essay like, what do your recommenders say about you, what kind of impact have you had at these high profile places), but also in the rest of the class and what they might be trying to add years ahead of your arrival as a new MBA student. But my advice is- go for it. These are not places for people afraid of taking a chance! It's low risk, and at the very least, you'll get experience with a process you are likely to re-attempt later if not successful this time, and perspective of how you want to make the most of your next few years. Good luck!
Warmly,
Julie-Anne Heafey
Senior Consultant
mbaMission
It's impossible to predict your odds, as there's so much we don't see, not just from the elements not captured here (what's your essay like, what do your recommenders say about you, what kind of impact have you had at these high profile places), but also in the rest of the class and what they might be trying to add years ahead of your arrival as a new MBA student. But my advice is- go for it. These are not places for people afraid of taking a chance! It's low risk, and at the very least, you'll get experience with a process you are likely to re-attempt later if not successful this time, and perspective of how you want to make the most of your next few years. Good luck!
Warmly,
Julie-Anne Heafey
Senior Consultant
mbaMission
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