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24 May 2021, 08:03
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· Demographics (nationality, gender): Korean, female
· Education:
Undergrad: Top 2 University in Korea
GPA: 4.20/4.30
Major: Law
Grad school: Harvard Law School
GPA: n/a (couple of Honors grades on a Dean's Scholar/Honors/Pass/Low Pass scale)
Major: Law (LLM, not JD)
· GMAT or GRE (include section breakdown): GMAT 780 (Q51, V50, IR 8)
· Work experience (highlight amount of work experience, industries, roles, promotions, special accomplishments, international exposure):
work experience: Total 9 years
Industries: Law
Roles: Korean law firm associate, internships at district attorney's office / law clerk / foreign service.
Promotions: n/a
special accomplishments: Led 20-ish cross-border M&A projects as coordinating mid- and senior-level associate worth USD billions in transaction value.
international exposure: Worked mostly in Korea for multinational companies. Stationed abroad for the foreign service internship (<0.5 year).
· Extracurricular activities (highlight notable undergraduate and post-undergraduate ones):
Grad school: Case competition, Mini MBA
Undergrad: Model UN, student newspaper, Volunteer Teaching, Pro bono legal service
· Post-MBA goals: Consulting / General management / HR / Business analytics
· Target schools: Stanford, Berkeley, Harvard, MIT, INSEAD (for personal reasons), Wharton, Columbia, NYU, Yale
· Any specific questions you would like answered by our team:
- What would you recommend I focus on to improve my chances of admission / merit-based scholarships as an international student (especially full-ride scholarships)?
- How much would age (35) and prior non-business background count against my profile? Lack of extracurriculars?
- Post-MBA goals are rather generic; any advice / pitfalls on the industries/roles that I should be aware of?
Thank you in advance!
· Education:
Undergrad: Top 2 University in Korea
GPA: 4.20/4.30
Major: Law
Grad school: Harvard Law School
GPA: n/a (couple of Honors grades on a Dean's Scholar/Honors/Pass/Low Pass scale)
Major: Law (LLM, not JD)
· GMAT or GRE (include section breakdown): GMAT 780 (Q51, V50, IR 8)
· Work experience (highlight amount of work experience, industries, roles, promotions, special accomplishments, international exposure):
work experience: Total 9 years
Industries: Law
Roles: Korean law firm associate, internships at district attorney's office / law clerk / foreign service.
Promotions: n/a
special accomplishments: Led 20-ish cross-border M&A projects as coordinating mid- and senior-level associate worth USD billions in transaction value.
international exposure: Worked mostly in Korea for multinational companies. Stationed abroad for the foreign service internship (<0.5 year).
· Extracurricular activities (highlight notable undergraduate and post-undergraduate ones):
Grad school: Case competition, Mini MBA
Undergrad: Model UN, student newspaper, Volunteer Teaching, Pro bono legal service
· Post-MBA goals: Consulting / General management / HR / Business analytics
· Target schools: Stanford, Berkeley, Harvard, MIT, INSEAD (for personal reasons), Wharton, Columbia, NYU, Yale
· Any specific questions you would like answered by our team:
- What would you recommend I focus on to improve my chances of admission / merit-based scholarships as an international student (especially full-ride scholarships)?
- How much would age (35) and prior non-business background count against my profile? Lack of extracurriculars?
- Post-MBA goals are rather generic; any advice / pitfalls on the industries/roles that I should be aware of?
Thank you in advance!
24 May 2021, 13:51
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Welcome to GMAT Club! WOW. OMG. Amazing profile!
These are very impressive credentials! Congratulations!
I think your main consideration may be age, which is more about work experience rather than age really. Someone coming out of military or with an advanced degree may be a bit older like 3-4 years older than their classmates while having the same amount of full time work experience. Here is a bit more about the work experience vs. age: https://gmatclub.com/forum/old-for-an-mba-352223.html
So 9 years of FT work experience is not going to blacklist you, esp not at the top programs where the AdCom is much more open minded and definitely not not an issue at INSEAD/EU Schools where the average age/work experience are higher than in the US.
I would say your main focus in your application will be demonstrating your career progress (which can be tricky for a law person) and focusing on why MBA would help you or why you need it if you are already as accomplished as you are. The second part is not hard by the way, and most alums, current students, and consultants can help with articulating a very strong story based on the traditional paths and approaches. (by the way, being traditional and boring in applications is not a bad thing; sometimes you can take a bit of risk but in general adcom are not fans of risk or "new"). Think of them as boring investors who want to invest into safe candidates who are proven winners. That's what you want to show that you are a winning candidate who is doing an amazing job in their space and now is ready for the next level/step/etc.
You do want to pick one story for your Post-MBA career essays and stick to it and also research the heck out of it - reach out and connect with current students from your target programs who have done law school prior to MBA and see what worked for them for recruiting and how to leverage their experience. Speaking to current students will help with seeing what works in reality, what challenges people face and will make your applications much stronger. I would also suggest speaking to a few of the older students as well and connecting with them since recruiting is different for the more experienced group. When MBB's are recruiting 27 year old for associate positions, it may not be a great fit for some graduating at 37, esp when the recruiting manager is 33 and the partner is 40.
I feel you have great chances at any of the programs you identified. I think connecting with current students will help you tremendously to solidify/craft your story and while chances will be better for some schools than others, I think all are very real and would be a great value add for any of these programs.
P.S. Not sure if you thought or considered about the Sloan Fellows or Stanford MSx programs. They are the "perfect" fit for the experienced professionals wanting to take a year off to boost their career. On the flip side, these are 12-month programs without internships. Also, I don't know if they give STEM designation for their OPT which would be helpful in case H1B lottery is back and requires multiple rounds.
Let me know if any questions and fantastic job on your GMAT!
These are very impressive credentials! Congratulations!
I think your main consideration may be age, which is more about work experience rather than age really. Someone coming out of military or with an advanced degree may be a bit older like 3-4 years older than their classmates while having the same amount of full time work experience. Here is a bit more about the work experience vs. age: https://gmatclub.com/forum/old-for-an-mba-352223.html
So 9 years of FT work experience is not going to blacklist you, esp not at the top programs where the AdCom is much more open minded and definitely not not an issue at INSEAD/EU Schools where the average age/work experience are higher than in the US.
I would say your main focus in your application will be demonstrating your career progress (which can be tricky for a law person) and focusing on why MBA would help you or why you need it if you are already as accomplished as you are. The second part is not hard by the way, and most alums, current students, and consultants can help with articulating a very strong story based on the traditional paths and approaches. (by the way, being traditional and boring in applications is not a bad thing; sometimes you can take a bit of risk but in general adcom are not fans of risk or "new"). Think of them as boring investors who want to invest into safe candidates who are proven winners. That's what you want to show that you are a winning candidate who is doing an amazing job in their space and now is ready for the next level/step/etc.
You do want to pick one story for your Post-MBA career essays and stick to it and also research the heck out of it - reach out and connect with current students from your target programs who have done law school prior to MBA and see what worked for them for recruiting and how to leverage their experience. Speaking to current students will help with seeing what works in reality, what challenges people face and will make your applications much stronger. I would also suggest speaking to a few of the older students as well and connecting with them since recruiting is different for the more experienced group. When MBB's are recruiting 27 year old for associate positions, it may not be a great fit for some graduating at 37, esp when the recruiting manager is 33 and the partner is 40.
I feel you have great chances at any of the programs you identified. I think connecting with current students will help you tremendously to solidify/craft your story and while chances will be better for some schools than others, I think all are very real and would be a great value add for any of these programs.
P.S. Not sure if you thought or considered about the Sloan Fellows or Stanford MSx programs. They are the "perfect" fit for the experienced professionals wanting to take a year off to boost their career. On the flip side, these are 12-month programs without internships. Also, I don't know if they give STEM designation for their OPT which would be helpful in case H1B lottery is back and requires multiple rounds.
Let me know if any questions and fantastic job on your GMAT!
26 May 2021, 08:30
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Hi RoryGilmore06,
Thank you for sharing your profile. I can see a lot of good elements in your profile which will help you to create stories. Let’s go step by step:
-Stats: Your GMAT is excellent, and you completed your undergraduate studies at a top-tier university. So there's no doubt about your intellectual ability.
-Work experience: Your experience in law is great with some leadership experience. You can bring the narrative of your learnings from these high-profile experiences and how they have shaped your personality and skills in work. I would like to know more about your profile like career progression and impact because that is what will help you stand out.
-EC: Seems good. I would say bringing the most impactful activity you are passionate about can bring color to your apps.
For your post-MBA goals, I would suggest you be more specific and try to bring the right motivations for these goals to present a powerful story.
- What would you recommend I focus on to improve my chances of admission / merit-based scholarships as an international student (especially full-ride scholarships)?
You need to just focus on your apps and create a good narrative. However, we have converted one of our applicants to lbs with a low GMAT score and 100% scholarship. You can read the article on low GMAT success story to lbs. You will get some insights
If you need more direction/guidance over any aspect of your application and have any specific concerns, you can ask us on the forum Ask MBA & Beyond.
- How much would age (35) and prior non-business background count against my profile? Lack of extracurriculars?
Well, age is a concern. You will need to convince adcoms why you want to pursue an MBA now and how it will help you fill gaps in your profile and achieve your goals (personal or professional). Most business schools do not set an age limit for candidates for MBA programs; instead, they look for "intentionality." Your intention to get an MBA right now, and how important it is to your career. What makes you different is you are ahead in the career than others, usually pursuing an FT MBA.
ECs play an important role in your apps, revealing your diverse personality and enabling adcoms to learn about the different aspects of your personality. You can also include hobbies you pursue and talk about it to make the applications more interesting because that is what will set you apart.
- Post-MBA goals are rather generic; any advice/pitfalls on the industries/roles that I should be aware of?
There are no specific career paths that are favorable/unfavorable after having a career in law but I can only advise you the best careers you should go for after knowing you and your motivations better. However, you can look into IB as well as a lucrative career option. At this point- it seems you are not very clear about MBA and post-MBA goals. So, I would rather have a chat with you around it first and then suggest you a bit of concrete advice.
Overall you have a good profile and had a shot at your targeted schools. If you’d like, we are happy to hop on a call with you sometime this week to discuss your profile in length and further chances to b-school. Feel free to book a free session with us as per your convenience.
How to enhance your application and maximize your chances in Round 1 for fall intake
Cheers!
Shantanu Sharma
Founder and Admissions Consultant, MBA and Beyond
Testimonials
Email: shantanu@mbaandbeyond.com
What s app: +65-97158525
Thank you for sharing your profile. I can see a lot of good elements in your profile which will help you to create stories. Let’s go step by step:
-Stats: Your GMAT is excellent, and you completed your undergraduate studies at a top-tier university. So there's no doubt about your intellectual ability.
-Work experience: Your experience in law is great with some leadership experience. You can bring the narrative of your learnings from these high-profile experiences and how they have shaped your personality and skills in work. I would like to know more about your profile like career progression and impact because that is what will help you stand out.
-EC: Seems good. I would say bringing the most impactful activity you are passionate about can bring color to your apps.
For your post-MBA goals, I would suggest you be more specific and try to bring the right motivations for these goals to present a powerful story.
- What would you recommend I focus on to improve my chances of admission / merit-based scholarships as an international student (especially full-ride scholarships)?
You need to just focus on your apps and create a good narrative. However, we have converted one of our applicants to lbs with a low GMAT score and 100% scholarship. You can read the article on low GMAT success story to lbs. You will get some insights
If you need more direction/guidance over any aspect of your application and have any specific concerns, you can ask us on the forum Ask MBA & Beyond.
- How much would age (35) and prior non-business background count against my profile? Lack of extracurriculars?
Well, age is a concern. You will need to convince adcoms why you want to pursue an MBA now and how it will help you fill gaps in your profile and achieve your goals (personal or professional). Most business schools do not set an age limit for candidates for MBA programs; instead, they look for "intentionality." Your intention to get an MBA right now, and how important it is to your career. What makes you different is you are ahead in the career than others, usually pursuing an FT MBA.
ECs play an important role in your apps, revealing your diverse personality and enabling adcoms to learn about the different aspects of your personality. You can also include hobbies you pursue and talk about it to make the applications more interesting because that is what will set you apart.
- Post-MBA goals are rather generic; any advice/pitfalls on the industries/roles that I should be aware of?
There are no specific career paths that are favorable/unfavorable after having a career in law but I can only advise you the best careers you should go for after knowing you and your motivations better. However, you can look into IB as well as a lucrative career option. At this point- it seems you are not very clear about MBA and post-MBA goals. So, I would rather have a chat with you around it first and then suggest you a bit of concrete advice.
Overall you have a good profile and had a shot at your targeted schools. If you’d like, we are happy to hop on a call with you sometime this week to discuss your profile in length and further chances to b-school. Feel free to book a free session with us as per your convenience.
How to enhance your application and maximize your chances in Round 1 for fall intake
Cheers!
Shantanu Sharma
Founder and Admissions Consultant, MBA and Beyond
Testimonials
Email: shantanu@mbaandbeyond.com
What s app: +65-97158525
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