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Q42,V22. 530. A desperate plea for help and guidance. :!: :|

Hello everyone. I gave my GMAT yesterday and scored a Q42 and V22. Below I am going to write up the prep materials I used, Please critique my study schedule and flaw in my preparation and tell me what I need to correct. I am taking a month off from work and reappear again. Will it be enough time?(Given my current score) Please let me know.

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Nova Math bible.
CR Bible.
Manhattan SC.(I did not do the idioms.)

Test prep sites: Veritas prep
I gave the mocks for the last one week. I gave one mock each day and scored around 600+ (600-630)

The books below are the books I possess:(I have not studied from them at all.)
OG 12 th edition.
OG 13 th edition.
OG 2016 edition.
GMAT Quantitative Review.
GMAT Verbal Review.
RC99
Aristotle SC.
Princeton Review-Premium edition

Can you suggest what I need to improve? Based on my scores can you tell me where I stand? Are my basics weak? Should I start from the scratch? What do my scores imply? Looking at the books I’ve completed, do you think I practiced enough at all? I enrolled for manhattan mocks.. Looking back, I scored 580 in their mocks.

Please go ahead and let me know, be as brutal as you want. I have a month of time on my hands.
Thank you very much. Thank you for your time.

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I'm extremely lost. Guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Rohit,

EGgmat is good for the verbal . Try to go for it if you feel like you haven't got the basics covered.
Make a plan and try to execute it.
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Hi rohit123,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day did not go as well as hoped. You have not gone into much detail about your situation though, so before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

1) How long have you studied?
2) What is your goal score?
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

Based on what you have described, there are two immediate things to consider as you plan out the next phase of your studies:

1) Many Test Takers who use a 'book heavy' study approach end up getting 'stuck' at a particular score level. Your prior studies were 'book heavy' and your list of study materials is also 'book heavy.' Thus, to hit your score goal, you might need to invest in some new, non-book resources.

2) It's important to remember that taking lots of CATs will NOT make you a better Test Taker. A CAT is really a 'measuring device' - when used correctly, it will give you a realistic score and help define your strengths and weaknesses, but it will NOT help you to fix any of those weaknesses. In addition, it takes a lot of effort and energy to complete a realistic CAT - and it takes time to 'recover' from that effort. To raise your scores, you have to put in the necessary practice and repetitions. The CAT will show you whether your studies are helping you to improve or not. Considering all of this, you really shouldn't take more than 1 FULL CAT per week.

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Hi rohit123,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day did not go as well as hoped. You have not gone into much detail about your situation though, so before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

1) How long have you studied?
2) What is your goal score?
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

Based on what you have described, there are two immediate things to consider as you plan out the next phase of your studies:

1) Many Test Takers who use a 'book heavy' study approach end up getting 'stuck' at a particular score level. Your prior studies were 'book heavy' and your list of study materials is also 'book heavy.' Thus, to hit your score goal, you might need to invest in some new, non-book resources.

2) It's important to remember that taking lots of CATs will NOT make you a better Test Taker. A CAT is really a 'measuring device' - when used correctly, it will give you a realistic score and help define your strengths and weaknesses, but it will NOT help you to fix any of those weaknesses. In addition, it takes a lot of effort and energy to complete a realistic CAT - and it takes time to 'recover' from that effort. To raise your scores, you have to put in the necessary practice and repetitions. The CAT will show you whether your studies are helping you to improve or not. Considering all of this, you really shouldn't take more than 1 FULL CAT per week.

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Hello, Rich.


I studied for around twenty days. Around half an hour to one hour each day. Last week of the three weeks, I gave the mocks.

My goal is to get a 700. I am planning to apply this october for round one.

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During my preparation, I hardly touched the official guides. It was probably poor planning? Like you said, it was meant to be book heavy but I hardly finished any books as well. In the exam, I ran out of time in both the sections and plain up had to guess the last ten questions in both the sections.

My speed was not good enough. In the diagnostic test, I got around 550 too. I am applying for rottman school of management, university of toronto.

I have one month more. I am not working right now so, I have all the time for the next one month. Do you think it is realistic to assume that I can reach the goal of 100 plus point increase?

Do you think my math and english basics are weak? What do you think q42 score in quant and v22 implies? Should i start my preparation from scratch?
Can you suggest an effective study plan? Should I spend more time on verbal?
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Thank you so much for your time and your valuable insights. Greatly appreciate it.
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Hello, Thank you for replying.Should I stick to solving the books you mentioned and the OG then? It seems like I hardly did the right practice.I shall pick up aristotle/manhattan and go ahead. What do you suggest I do for quant? Which sources? I have enrolled for manhattan prep mocks for now.

Your post is really motivating. Thanks a ton.
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Hi rohit123,

Many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so the fact that you studied for just 20 days (and barely at that) helps to explain why you did not score higher. Raising a 530 to a 700+ is a 170 point increase and will require that you make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. All of that work will likely take you at least another 3 months of consistent, guided study - so it's not realistic to expect to be able to achieve that goal in just 1 month (even if you plan to study 'full time'). As such, some changes to your plan/timeline will likely be required - re: changing your score goal, changing your Test Date and/or changing when you plan to apply to Business School.

While I understand that this information will probably not make you 'happy', you have to remember your REAL goal: to get into your first-choice Business School. If you don't have the proper GMAT Score, then an approaching application deadline really doesn't matter... and you can always apply for a later Application Round. The GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level; the key element though is the 'training' - that work takes the proper commitment and time.

1) What is the next application deadline for Rottman after October?

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Hi rohit123,

Many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so the fact that you studied for just 20 days (and barely at that) helps to explain why you did not score higher. Raising a 530 to a 700+ is a 170 point increase and will require that you make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. All of that work will likely take you at least another 3 months of consistent, guided study - so it's not realistic to expect to be able to achieve that goal in just 1 month (even if you plan to study 'full time'). As such, some changes to your plan/timeline will likely be required - re: changing your score goal, changing your Test Date and/or changing when you plan to apply to Business School.

While I understand that this information will probably not make you 'happy', you have to remember your REAL goal: to get into your first-choice Business School. If you don't have the proper GMAT Score, then an approaching application deadline really doesn't matter... and you can always apply for a later Application Round. The GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level; the key element though is the 'training' - that work takes the proper commitment and time.

1) What is the next application deadline for Rottman after October?

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Hi rich,

Alright then. I'll give gmat in a month just to give myself a shot. Can you tell me what is a realistic goal for a month of test preparation time?

As I told you before, the main problem was I was running out of time and felt fatigued when I entered the verbal section.

Can you suggest some books I can use or the content I need to follow to improve myself? Are both my quant and verbal scores pathetic? Should I work on both equally? What should I start with? The OG?

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Rottman round two is in around december I think.

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Thank you for helping me.
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Hi rohit123,

To start, it's important to note that I think that you COULD potentially score a lot higher than this 530 - IF you put in the necessary time and effort to hone your Test-taking skills. I also think that it's important that you try to better define the type of GMAT Score that you would be satisfied with. In real basic terms, what Score would you need to see to decide that you were done studying for the GMAT? If you would be satisfied with something less than a 700, then we need to know what that number is.

To be clear, I do not think that you should take the GMAT in one month (and it's unclear what you mean when you say that you want to give yourself "a shot" ... a shot at what exactly? A 700? Because - based on this recent Score - that's almost certainly NOT going to happen in one month's time). Taking the GMAT at that time would likely 'cost' you in 3 different ways. First, it will cost you $250 (and you would almost certainly have to repay to retake the GMAT later on). Second, it will disrupt what your study routine should be - since you'll have to alter your activities during the last week before your Exam and you'll need to 'recover' afterwards. Third, if you again score in the low-500s, then that could significantly impact your confidence (and attitude towards this whole process) going forward.

Realistically, with the proper materials, the proper Tactics and a consistent study routine, I suspect that you might be able to improve 50-70 points in this next month. That's completely dependent on your ability to adapt how you "see" (and respond to) this Test though. If you treat the GMAT in the same ways as before, then you will likely score at the same general level.

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