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29 Jul 2021, 10:13
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I am looking at applications for a lot of the top schools and they all include some type of question regarding academic discipline or suspension/dismissal. I was involved in a fight on campus and removed from on-campus housing when I attended a university a while back (did not get my degree here). I was never suspended or dismissed from the school itself, but definitely received discipline from the residence life office. My transcript does not reflect anything, but I am having a hard time getting exact records from the residence life office (it seems they are out of office for the summer).
I bring this up only because I am curious as to how this will affect my answers to these questions, and what will come up on the Re Vera background check. I am assuming I should check "Yes" for questions that phrase it as "any discipline from any school", but I am much more inclined to check no for questions only specifying "probation, suspension, or dismissal" as I do not believe I fell into any of these specific categories. I am trying to find the balance between being honest and transparent without voluntarily disclosing information that would hurt my chances, especially if I do not need to and it would not come up in a background. Has anyone ever had any direct contact with schools or Re Vera regarding this type of question? Does Re Vera really only verify degrees and transcripts, or is there a chance they reach out to undergrad residence life to get a full picture (it seems like a ton of legwork for every admitted applicant but you never know). If this is something that will come out regardless of whether the application question specifically asks about it or not, I would like to know so I can figure out best steps from here.
I bring this up only because I am curious as to how this will affect my answers to these questions, and what will come up on the Re Vera background check. I am assuming I should check "Yes" for questions that phrase it as "any discipline from any school", but I am much more inclined to check no for questions only specifying "probation, suspension, or dismissal" as I do not believe I fell into any of these specific categories. I am trying to find the balance between being honest and transparent without voluntarily disclosing information that would hurt my chances, especially if I do not need to and it would not come up in a background. Has anyone ever had any direct contact with schools or Re Vera regarding this type of question? Does Re Vera really only verify degrees and transcripts, or is there a chance they reach out to undergrad residence life to get a full picture (it seems like a ton of legwork for every admitted applicant but you never know). If this is something that will come out regardless of whether the application question specifically asks about it or not, I would like to know so I can figure out best steps from here.
29 Jul 2021, 11:25
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Hi there and sorry about the undergrad experience.
I feel being removed from on-campus housing is NOT a suspension. I also feel they will only verify your enrollment in the school (transcripts will come directly from your college so that is low risk to them but I can see them verifying it just in case). I can't see Revera reaching out to the undergrad residence hall since you may not have lived on campus - some colleges require it and some don't, so it is all over the place. I highly doubt this is checked in any way.
The way some questions are phrased, this may create an ethical dilemma that you will need to answer to yourself of how to handle it. It is possible to explain it in the optional essay or in the form. This is a good question for admissions consultants who may have run into things like that. I hope they can comment too!
My feel for the ReVera is that they do pretty minimal background checking since it costs $$$ and part of the application fee pool goes towards it. I can see the school spending $500/person for probably 2 hours of verification time since they bill for a certain suite of services. E.g. one of the former Moderators put GMAT Club as an employer and nobody has ever reached out to me/GMAT Club to confirm their employment history. Not sure if that is randomized or perhaps they check 2 out of 3 or something like that.
I feel being removed from on-campus housing is NOT a suspension. I also feel they will only verify your enrollment in the school (transcripts will come directly from your college so that is low risk to them but I can see them verifying it just in case). I can't see Revera reaching out to the undergrad residence hall since you may not have lived on campus - some colleges require it and some don't, so it is all over the place. I highly doubt this is checked in any way.
The way some questions are phrased, this may create an ethical dilemma that you will need to answer to yourself of how to handle it. It is possible to explain it in the optional essay or in the form. This is a good question for admissions consultants who may have run into things like that. I hope they can comment too!
My feel for the ReVera is that they do pretty minimal background checking since it costs $$$ and part of the application fee pool goes towards it. I can see the school spending $500/person for probably 2 hours of verification time since they bill for a certain suite of services. E.g. one of the former Moderators put GMAT Club as an employer and nobody has ever reached out to me/GMAT Club to confirm their employment history. Not sure if that is randomized or perhaps they check 2 out of 3 or something like that.
29 Jul 2021, 13:35
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I agree that I doubt there is that deep of a dive on records, though I will probably still have some anxious thoughts in the back of my head (unless I hear it directly from a Re Vera rep or someone who has communicated with them about this). In regards to the ethical dilemma, you're right that it is a tough balance - I am sure if there is only an incident report on my records that I could work out an interpretation of these questions and their semantics such that I do not need to answer yes, but I would feel a lot better knowing a) how my answer relates to the actual intent of the questions (which I will hopefully find out more when I get these records back) and b) this is not something that would come up in a background check regardless of the answers.
It'll make for some tough decisions and conversations I am sure, but this is my own doing so I gotta work through it. Thanks for the feedback!
