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27 Feb 2007, 04:21
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Since most of us here are in waiting mode now, I thought I'd pose a question and solicit some advice.
I went into the new HR manager's office today and he asked me how happy I was with my current situation. I told him that things were fine except for my salary which I believe is extremely low and that I am frankly embarassed by how low it is.
Apparently, our company has finally realized that our pay scales are not in line with industry standards and management has decided to implement drastic pay revisions. However, due to my direct manager's rather big mouth, the news of my leaving for an MBA has spread among the higher-ups in the company.
The HR manager then told me that he would not be able to justify a pay increase for me since I will be leaving in a few months. I mentioned that there is nothing concrete yet as I am yet to get admitted. I also told him that it was quite unfair to use this against me since I could easily have not informed anyone of my intention to leave up until my 30-day notice period.
He then offered me a huge increase on my salary (close to 80% increase, it was reaaaaally low) and said "Would you stay if I gave you this?" to which I could only say "I'd consider it". But he asked for a definitive answer. Now there is no way I would put aside my MBA plans, but on the other hand, I really need all the money I can get.
What would you do if you were in my position?
I went into the new HR manager's office today and he asked me how happy I was with my current situation. I told him that things were fine except for my salary which I believe is extremely low and that I am frankly embarassed by how low it is.
Apparently, our company has finally realized that our pay scales are not in line with industry standards and management has decided to implement drastic pay revisions. However, due to my direct manager's rather big mouth, the news of my leaving for an MBA has spread among the higher-ups in the company.
The HR manager then told me that he would not be able to justify a pay increase for me since I will be leaving in a few months. I mentioned that there is nothing concrete yet as I am yet to get admitted. I also told him that it was quite unfair to use this against me since I could easily have not informed anyone of my intention to leave up until my 30-day notice period.
He then offered me a huge increase on my salary (close to 80% increase, it was reaaaaally low) and said "Would you stay if I gave you this?" to which I could only say "I'd consider it". But he asked for a definitive answer. Now there is no way I would put aside my MBA plans, but on the other hand, I really need all the money I can get.
What would you do if you were in my position?
27 Feb 2007, 05:47
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Screw your firm. Couple of reasons.
1) Trying to blackmail first (since you are leaving you get nothing)
2) Treating a single individual in a manner inconsistent with common practice or stated policy constitutes discrimination and its fun bags illegal. Please tell me there was some kind of formal communication about reviewing and increasing all people's salaries? I'd have a field day with your HR lady. At least in the US anyway.
3) And when that fails, trying to bribe you
You know what the appropriate response from them would have been?
"We know you are pursuing your MBA and may well leave us in the next few months. I hope you don't, but if you do we would love to bring you back after you complete your degree. In the interim, we are raising all our employees salaries to more appropriate market levels, including yours. You've done good work and we want to make sure you are happy here if you chose not to pursue your MBA at this stage."
So what would I do?
I'd take the money. It's not like its a huge lump sum right up front - its not a bonus you are paying back. Were talking about a few thousand dollars a month for a few months - that's not exactly a major expense for them.
If you do get into an MBA program, then you leave. Who cares at that point? They might, but you wont.
If you don't get into an MBA program, you didn't turn down a frickin 80% raise
1) Trying to blackmail first (since you are leaving you get nothing)
2) Treating a single individual in a manner inconsistent with common practice or stated policy constitutes discrimination and its fun bags illegal. Please tell me there was some kind of formal communication about reviewing and increasing all people's salaries? I'd have a field day with your HR lady. At least in the US anyway.
3) And when that fails, trying to bribe you
You know what the appropriate response from them would have been?
"We know you are pursuing your MBA and may well leave us in the next few months. I hope you don't, but if you do we would love to bring you back after you complete your degree. In the interim, we are raising all our employees salaries to more appropriate market levels, including yours. You've done good work and we want to make sure you are happy here if you chose not to pursue your MBA at this stage."
So what would I do?
I'd take the money. It's not like its a huge lump sum right up front - its not a bonus you are paying back. Were talking about a few thousand dollars a month for a few months - that's not exactly a major expense for them.
If you do get into an MBA program, then you leave. Who cares at that point? They might, but you wont.
If you don't get into an MBA program, you didn't turn down a frickin 80% raise
27 Feb 2007, 06:53
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I wouldn't burn any bridges before heading off to school. I don't get why it's a big deal for the company to just give you the raise regardless, if you stay, then everyone's happy, if you leave, then they're out a few grand, shouldn't be a big deal for them.
Sounds like the HR person is a real jackass. I would somehow try to bring the salary negotiation up again and say, "Look, there's a possibility I may go to business school, but let's completely set that aside for now and discuss my salary based on the merit of my work and my professional reputation."
Sounds like the HR person is a real jackass. I would somehow try to bring the salary negotiation up again and say, "Look, there's a possibility I may go to business school, but let's completely set that aside for now and discuss my salary based on the merit of my work and my professional reputation."
