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If you're just looking to hire someone who's book smart and can get his job done as an individual contributor, then yes, high GPA and GMAT are the way to go. If you're looking for a leader who have proven themselves in leading teams, projects, and organizations and have hands-on training, then the resume is more important than the GPA.
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The top consulting and banking firms are filled with book smart type people, especially at the junior levels.
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The top consulting and banking firms are filled with book smart type people, especially at the junior levels.
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for UG banking hiring, yes. For MBA banking hiring? I think they look for a little more than just book-smart, based on the extensive and involved interviewing process which pelihu has written about in great detail.

For consulting, for MBA hiring (which is quite different from UG hiring) based on our 2nd year classmates' experiences, you have to really demonstrate leadership ability/experience, and show that you can work well with all kinds of team members and clients to get the job at a top consulting firm. They (the firms) want the cake and eat it too (i.e. good grades, good brand, and good non-academic activities).
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The top consulting and banking firms are filled with book smart type people, especially at the junior levels.

for UG banking hiring, yes. For MBA banking hiring? I think they look for a little more than just book-smart, based on the extensive and involved interviewing process which pelihu has written about in great detail.

For consulting, for MBA hiring (which is quite different from UG hiring) based on our 2nd year classmates' experiences, you have to really demonstrate leadership ability/experience, and show that you can work well with all kinds of team members and clients to get the job at a top consulting firm. They (the firms) want the cake and eat it too (i.e. good grades, good brand, and good non-academic activities).
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Very good point. There is quite a distinction between the UG and MBA hires. The UG hires are not career track, the MBA hires are expected to be to some degree.
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So for the IB/MC firms who always looking into the GPA, is there a cutoff point? What GPA is decent for them
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To Kry's point on the GPA only helping on getting you a first round interview, here at Kellogg every single on-campus recruiter has to open spots to bidding for first round interviews (i.e. usually around 30-50% of first round interviews are awarded based on points bidding by students rather than closed lists of the interviewers).

Given that most consulting firms advance candidates almost exclusively on their performance within the case interview, it really diminishes the impact of grades.
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To Kry's point on the GPA only helping on getting you a first round interview, here at Kellogg every single on-campus recruiter has to open spots to bidding for first round interviews (i.e. usually around 30-50% of first round interviews are awarded based on points bidding by students rather than closed lists of the interviewers).

Given that most consulting firms advance candidates almost exclusively on their performance within the case interview, it really diminishes the impact of grades.
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good point Steel, I forgot about that. Haas also requires anyone who recruits on campus to open up 50% of their total slots to bidding.
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