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07 Dec 2022, 23:21
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Hi everyone,
I currently have admits from Schulich and McGill and would like inputs from the forum to see what people think! Here is my list of pros and cons so far, but happy to share more information if needed. -
Background –
1. Indian, Male, Mid 20s
2. WE – 4 years at a big 4 (not consulting)
3. GMAT – 720
4. Post MBA goal – Consulting. I Understand that MBB will not be possible, but very much open to Big 4 and boutiques.
Schulich
Pros –
1. Location – Based in Toronto – where most of the consulting firms are
2. Consulting jobs – Decent – a lot of graduates find jobs in consulting (No MBB of course)
Cons –
1. Class profile – Very Indian/less diversity - a lot of people tell me that it’s almost like studying in an Indian class room.
2. Brand name – I feel McGill wins here
3. Fee – no scholarships so a difference of approximately CAD 45,000
McGill
Pros –
1. Scholarships – Difference of approximately CAD 45,000 in tuition
2. Class profile – Class is much more diverse compared to Schulich. The McGill community is what I’d like to be a part of since they are more diverse. Not sure how big of a factor that is compared to employment outcomes, but it’s a factor for sure.
3. Alums – I see more McGill MBAs in consulting compared to Schulich MBA. Even the undergraduate network is much larger in consulting.
4. Hypothetically speaking, if McGill was based in Toronto I’d pick McGill without a second thought.
Cons –
1. Location – Montreal is a very French Speaking place and I do not speak French. As such most of my job prospects would be based in Toronto (the language barrier, but also because Toronto is where most of the consulting firms are).
Timeline –
I have around a week or two to pay down the deposits at both schools, but the amount is not much in the grand scheme of things so I’m open to putting down the deposits.
I currently have admits from Schulich and McGill and would like inputs from the forum to see what people think! Here is my list of pros and cons so far, but happy to share more information if needed. -
Background –
1. Indian, Male, Mid 20s
2. WE – 4 years at a big 4 (not consulting)
3. GMAT – 720
4. Post MBA goal – Consulting. I Understand that MBB will not be possible, but very much open to Big 4 and boutiques.
Schulich
Pros –
1. Location – Based in Toronto – where most of the consulting firms are
2. Consulting jobs – Decent – a lot of graduates find jobs in consulting (No MBB of course)
Cons –
1. Class profile – Very Indian/less diversity - a lot of people tell me that it’s almost like studying in an Indian class room.
2. Brand name – I feel McGill wins here
3. Fee – no scholarships so a difference of approximately CAD 45,000
McGill
Pros –
1. Scholarships – Difference of approximately CAD 45,000 in tuition
2. Class profile – Class is much more diverse compared to Schulich. The McGill community is what I’d like to be a part of since they are more diverse. Not sure how big of a factor that is compared to employment outcomes, but it’s a factor for sure.
3. Alums – I see more McGill MBAs in consulting compared to Schulich MBA. Even the undergraduate network is much larger in consulting.
4. Hypothetically speaking, if McGill was based in Toronto I’d pick McGill without a second thought.
Cons –
1. Location – Montreal is a very French Speaking place and I do not speak French. As such most of my job prospects would be based in Toronto (the language barrier, but also because Toronto is where most of the consulting firms are).
Timeline –
I have around a week or two to pay down the deposits at both schools, but the amount is not much in the grand scheme of things so I’m open to putting down the deposits.
08 Dec 2022, 12:29
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Congratulations on your admits!
Sorry about the wait with the reply - been a busy morning with all the decisions.
As long as consulting companies hire on campus or have a pathway to recruit, it is not really critical if you go to one program or another.
Sometimes there are quotas (e.g. 10 from here and 20 from there) type of thing based on the program size and historical data that consulting companies track. There are also a few things to consider and evaluate as you evaluate your Consulting chances (e.g. do you have prior consulting experience? What makes you think you will get shortlisted for an interview? Not everyone who applies will be interviewed and out of those who do get it for an internship offer, only 20-30% will actually get an internship offer).
What I am hearing from you is you are giving a decent and sizeable preference for the location in Toronto. You have Rotman there too hunting for the same jobs and with similar demographics so location does not guarantee success either but makes it easier to attend coffee chats and lilkely brings more alums/recruiters on campus. I would chat with current students to understand how they are overcoming the logistical and recruiting challenge. Have you checked the Ivey reviews by the way? They are a bit dated at this point but quite helpful still:
Ivey Reviews:
https://gmatclub.com/reviews/business_school/ivey-49
Schulich is a bit less positive with a few folks disappointed
https://gmatclub.com/reviews/business_s ... chulich-51
Sorry about the wait with the reply - been a busy morning with all the decisions.
As long as consulting companies hire on campus or have a pathway to recruit, it is not really critical if you go to one program or another.
Sometimes there are quotas (e.g. 10 from here and 20 from there) type of thing based on the program size and historical data that consulting companies track. There are also a few things to consider and evaluate as you evaluate your Consulting chances (e.g. do you have prior consulting experience? What makes you think you will get shortlisted for an interview? Not everyone who applies will be interviewed and out of those who do get it for an internship offer, only 20-30% will actually get an internship offer).
What I am hearing from you is you are giving a decent and sizeable preference for the location in Toronto. You have Rotman there too hunting for the same jobs and with similar demographics so location does not guarantee success either but makes it easier to attend coffee chats and lilkely brings more alums/recruiters on campus. I would chat with current students to understand how they are overcoming the logistical and recruiting challenge. Have you checked the Ivey reviews by the way? They are a bit dated at this point but quite helpful still:
Ivey Reviews:
https://gmatclub.com/reviews/business_school/ivey-49
Schulich is a bit less positive with a few folks disappointed
https://gmatclub.com/reviews/business_s ... chulich-51
08 Dec 2022, 23:15
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bb
Hey bb, I appreciate your response (forgive me if reply isn't as objective. At this point, I might be bending towards McGill and just seeking validation)
1. I do not have prior consulting experience other than a fellowship I did part time, but I work at a big 4 (not consulting) so it would be more of a functional pivot for me than a complete switch. I have seen and spoken to people with the same/similar profile as mine make the switch to big 4 consulting (from both Schulich and McGill) so there is hope! Of course, I understand that nothing is guaranteed and the odds will be stacked against me.
2. McGill Alumns tell me that it can be a slight hurdle to not be in Toronto but definitely not a make or break as most things start/happen virtually. Of course, sometimes you'd have to Travel but overall not that big a deal.
3. Ivey is great for consulting and I will be applying for their January'24 intake (hoping that I have an answer by Jan'23 since they have rolling admissions), but I'm a bit concerned about their program being 1 year, which would only get me a 1 year work permit (a daunting thing as an international compared to a 3 year work permit with McGill/Schulich- though most people work their way around it or at least that is what I hear). I'm currently not evaluating IVEY - perhaps future me can worry about it.
