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Thank you both for the words of encouragement. I would be over the moon if I could get a 760! Quant is definitely my weaker area and I know that I must study hard to improve my score. The GMAT seems like such a beast; it's intimidating, to say the least. My hope is that if I give this the adequate training I will be able to boost my Quant score up to at least at 46. I really appreciate your feedback as this is new to me and I'm still getting my bearings :-)
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Hi wjry,

Many GMATers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so if you've been studying for just 4 weeks, then it stands to reason that you might naturally continue to improve over the next couple of months.

Before I can offer you any additional advice for your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

1) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
2) What is your overall goal score?
3) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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Hi Empowergmatrichc -

I took my baseline test 5/20 and got a 460 (27 on each). After that, I began an intense study regimen and took my second practice test on 6/14 and got a 650 (41 verbal and 38 quant). That progress was made in about 3.5 weeks. I’m mainly concerned with improving my quant score and I’d like to hit a 710 to be able to apply to HBS, Wharton, and CMU. I started on TTP just this past week and am on chapter four. Thanks for your feedback - I appreciate your insight!
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My hope is that if I give this the adequate training I will be able to boost my Quant score up to at least at 46.
For the schools your are talking about, I think Q47 is, while not the minimum, something along the lines of the minimum, and Q49+ is more in line with what a typical accepted applicant has scored.

Anyway, if you train in effective ways, you can hit Q50+. Doing so is not even that big of a deal.
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Hi wjry,

That type of Score improvement on your CATs in such a short period of time is impressive (it indicates that you're likely a naturally strong overall critical thinker - and your initial 460 was more a matter of inexperience with the Exam than anything else). That having been said, score improvements on practice CATs are rarely linear or constant, so you'll have to continue to hone some really specific skills to hit 710+. Once you've taken your next practice CAT, you should post back here and we can discuss the results.

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Today I took my third practice test and scored a 730 (51 Verbal and 40 Quant). In the past six weeks I have been focused on improving my Quant score only; I’ve spent at least 125 hours on improving Quant using TPP. Needless to say, I’m very frustrated with my progress. I’m happy with my Verbal score but I can’t seem to get past 550-600 level Quant questions on my practice tests. TPP has been a great resource and is very thorough. I’d love to get my Quant score to 46. Do you experts have any further suggestions? Thank you!
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Today I took my third practice test and scored a 730 (51 Verbal and 40 Quant). In the past six weeks I have been focused on improving my Quant score only; I’ve spent at least 125 hours on improving Quant using TPP. Needless to say, I’m very frustrated with my progress. I’m happy with my Verbal score but I can’t seem to get past 550-600 level Quant questions on my practice tests. TPP has been a great resource and is very thorough. I’d love to get my Quant score to 46. Do you experts have any further suggestions? Thank you!
I have some questions the answers to which may help me help you to figure out how to hit your quant score goal.

Are you doing your quant practice questions timed or untimed?

Did you read the blog post I included a link to in an earlier post in this thread?

How much of TTP have you completed?
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Hi wjry,

Since it's been about a month since we last discussed your studies, I have a few questions about your work so far and your timeline:

1) Have you scheduled your Official GMAT appointment yet (and if you have, then when is it?)? Are you planning to take the At-home GMAT or are you going to take your GMAT at a Test Facility?
2) Have all of the practice CATs that you have taken so far been Veritas CATs? Have you taken any of the 6 Official GMAC CATs yet?

As far as your Quant performance is concerned, it's worth noting that the Quant section of the GMAT is NOT a 'math test'; it's a 'critical thinking' test that requires a lot of little calculations as you work through it. If you're approaching most (or all) of your Quant questions with the mindset that you have to do lots of 'step-heavy' math to get the answer, then that might explain why you're not scoring at a much higher level yet in that section.

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Hi MartyTargetTestPrep

Yes, I did read that blog post. I am doing the Quant questions untimed, though I have had time left over after each of the three practice tests (about eight minutes each). This past week I finished TTP's course, though I still have many more chapter tests to complete (I've answered 12% of the questions). According to TTP's analytics, I spend an average of 1:10 per Quant question. DS questions are my weakest area, while problem solving is stronger. I'm a CPA by trade and thought the uniform, four-part CPA exam was challenging, but I'm finding the GMAT to pose a different kind of challenge. Thank you!
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Hi MartyTargetTestPrep

Yes, I did read that blog post. I am doing the Quant questions untimed, though I have had time left over after each of the three practice tests (about eight minutes each). This past week I finished TTP's course, though I still have many more chapter tests to complete (I've answered 12% of the questions). According to TTP's analytics, I spend an average of 1:10 per Quant question. DS questions are my weakest area, while problem solving is stronger. I'm a CPA by trade and thought the uniform, four-part CPA exam was challenging, but I'm finding the GMAT to pose a different kind of challenge. Thank you!
OK, so, since GMAT quant is more a game than a test of knowledge, your most important move is to go from having answered 12 percent of the TTP practice questions to having answered all or close to all of them.

You should answer most untimed and shoot for accuracy and for streaks of 15 or more correct in a row. 1:10 per question is probably not enough time to be spending, unless you are getting 100 percent correct in 1:10 each. If I personally were using TTP, I think I would shoot for accuracy of 90 percent or higher and streaks of 15 or more, and I would not worry much about the time. If all were taking me way longer than 2 minutes each, at some point in my training, I would seek ways to become more efficient until I was getting most of them done in two minutes each.

By carefully playing the game a lot, you should drive your score higher.

Meanwhile, your finishing quant 8 minutes early does not make sense. That 8 minutes could be spent making sure you have answered questions correctly. Even just using that 8 minutes could get you two to four more quant points.
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Hi EMPOWERgmatRichC

I have not yet chosen a date to sit for the GMAT, though I'd like to do so between late August and early September. Even though our test center is open (with a requirement of wearing a mask), I figured I'd try the Online GMAT option first; if I'm not happy with that score, I'd then schedule a test to be taken at the test center.
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Hi wjry,

Was your recent practice CAT a Veritas CAT or from a different source? I ask because a V51 is an exceptional performance - and if you earned that result on an Official GMAC CAT (without having seen any of the questions before), then your natural Verbal skills are top-notch (and you likely just needed to get a better 'feel' for the patterns behind how the Verbal section is designed. That same logic can be applied to the Quant section, but you will need to focus on more than just 'math skills' to earn an equally high Scaled Score in the Quant section.

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Hi EMPOWERgmatRichC

Yes, I have taken three Veritas practice tests and all of the questions have been new. I missed only two of the 36 questions on the Verbal section of the most recent test that I took.
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I began my GMAT journey in mid May of this year. To get a baseline score, I took my first practice test on May 20 and scored a 460 (Q27, V27). I knew I had my work cut out for myself, so I pressed ahead with a Veritas review course and felt that I was progressing nicely. On June 14, I took my second practice test and scored a 650 (Q38, V41). Soon after, I enrolled in TTP to work on improving my Q score. Verbal has come naturally to me and SC is my best area, so I didn’t feel that I needed to focus so much on this section. TTP has been a great resource and I steadily improved as I progressed through the material. In fact, I was increasing my scores on the practice quizzes. On July 26, I took my third practice test and scored a 730 (Q40, V51), which made me happy to see my improvement (I only missed two V questions). I kept studying TTP and continued to see improvements in the Q sections. Knowing that I wanted to apply to schools by round one deadline, in August I realized that I needed to take the GMAT online by September 1 in order to have enough time to submit my score and applications. On August 22, about ten days out from my scheduled test, I scored a 710 (Q49, V38) on my fourth practice test. I started to really feel that I could score 700+ to get a shot at being admitted to my top choice schools. Mentally I knew that I was capable of a 700+ score. Finally, on August 29, I took my fifth practice test and scored 750 (Q49, V44). Needless to say, I was pumped and excited about where I was three days before test day.

Well, test day was two days ago and I got a pretty good night’s sleep the night before and in the morning I ate a healthy breakfast as I always do. I spent about one hour reviewing some concepts on TTP before my 12:15PM exam start. The log in process was fairly straightforward and I was soon about to embark on my exam. The Q questions seemed challenging and I felt I was doing my best. About a third of the way into V my screen flashed white and I lost the exam for a few moments…long enough for sheer terror to set it…but it quickly rebounded and I was able to continue the test. The proctor asked me to take a 360* view of my room using the webcam, but that question I was on when the proctor interrupted me I think I missed because I lost my concentration. V seemed to go smoothly, and I had a few minutes left on the clock when I exited that section. I did not feel very confident about IR as I ran out of time and had to take guesses on the last three questions. The exam was exhausting but I honestly felt that I had done my best, whatever the outcome may be.

Fast forward to today at around 4:20PM, when I received an email from GMAC stating my results had posted to my mba.com account. I hurriedly logged into my account to find myself in utter disbelief: I had scored a 440 (Q33, V19)! “What happened?” I thought to myself. I logged off and once again logged back in as I simply could not believe what my eyes were telling me. As I type this I am still in pure shock. Had I gotten a 640 I would have believed it, but a 440?! This makes absolutely no sense to me! I keep replaying test day in my head and I can truthfully say that the questions felt challenging throughout the exam. Scoring a measly 19 in V is what is most shocking, as V has been my strong suit – I had scored between 38 and 51 on mock tests, so how could I have done so poorly?! Within an hour of viewing my results, I became angered at said results. Surely there is some explanation for what happened? Then, I started to question whether, in fact, the sky is blue. Could something have happened on GMAC’s end? Did my score get mixed up with some else’s? Did the algorithm crap out during my test? How valid are our scores given we cannot even get an ESR for the GMAT online? I have many questions and plan to contact GMAC to inquire about the veracity of my score. A 440 is honestly outside the spectrum of my capabilities and track record? Hell’s bells, I got a 460 on my baseline test! This situation seems so surreal to me and I am looking for the experts’ guidance as to how to approach GMAC. Have any of you ever heard of someone being in the 650-750 range and scoring a 440?! I have read many posts over the past three months of other people getting 700+ scores on practice tests, but scored 620-690 for the actual exam, but this swing in points is so extreme. Never in my wildest dreams would I have believed such a thing. I am so embarrassed as this score that I debated whether to even post my experience, but I am completely lost and would be very grateful for the experts’ input on what I should do as far as next steps. Thank you in advance.
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Fast forward to today at around 4:20PM, when I received an email from GMAC stating my results had posted to my mba.com account. I hurriedly logged into my account to find myself in utter disbelief: I had scored a 440 (Q33, V19)!

This situation seems so surreal to me and I am looking for the experts’ guidance as to how to approach GMAC. Have any of you ever heard of someone being in the 650-750 range and scoring a 440?! I have read many posts over the past three months of other people getting 700+ scores on practice tests, but scored 620-690 for the actual exam, but this swing in points is so extreme. Never in my wildest dreams would I have believed such a thing. I am so embarrassed as this score that I debated whether to even post my experience, but I am completely lost and would be very grateful for the experts’ input on what I should do as far as next steps. Thank you in advance.
I have heard of wild swings like that one, but that change does seem a bit extreme. You scored so much higher on practice tests from various sources, and you didn't mention anything extreme about your test experience. So, maybe the score is somehow wrong.

If the score is correct, then the mystery becomes how you could possibly have scored 440.

Something is missing here. Either your score was somehow miscalculated or misreported or something is going on with the way you took practice tests or with the way you took the actual GMAT that has yet to be uncovered.

Did you do anything that you don't normally do before or when you took the GMAT, such as take a focus drug, eat something unusual, or do mind exercises?

That drop is just freaky.

In any case, unless you have been doing something that you can't do when you take the actual GMAT, such as pausing, when you take practice tests, I would think that you'll easily score much higher next time.
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Hi MartyTargetTestPrep

Thank you so much for your insight. I took my practice tests under 'exam conditions'. On test day, I did not ingest anything unusual or take any kind of drugs.

This whole ordeal is so perplexing. I am going to file a complaint with GMAC to question the validity of my score. Something has to be badly wrong.

My opportunity of applying to R1 schools is now gone because of this mishap. Moreover, I have really lost confidence in myself to be able to score 700+ due to this low score, which I sincerely believe does not represent how I truly fared on the exam. The mental toll on me is not lost and I'm not sure how to snap out of this terribly disappointing circumstance.
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Hi MartyTargetTestPrep

Thank you so much for your insight. I took my practice tests under 'exam conditions'. On test day, I did not ingest anything unusual or take any kind of drugs.

This whole ordeal is so perplexing. I am going to file a complaint with GMAC to question the validity of my score. Something has to be badly wrong.
At least one person on GMAT Club has had his score changed after seeing that what his ESR showed didn't fit his score.

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My opportunity of applying to R1 schools is now gone because of this mishap. Moreover, I have really lost confidence in myself to be able to score 700+ due to this low score, which I sincerely believe does not represent how I truly fared on the exam. The mental toll on me is not lost and I'm not sure how to snap out of this terribly disappointing circumstance.
You can score 700+. Regardless of what happened when you took the test, whatever it was can be addressed.

We all have setbacks, bigger and smaller ones. The more adept you are at handling setbacks, the more successful you'll be in general.

Whatever about that test. Some freaky thing happened.OK. Just keep going and make your dreams happen.
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