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# stuck at 680

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13 Aug 2018, 02:33
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Hi, I have appeared for 3 mock tests and my scores are stuck between 670-690 --Q-47,48,V-36,35. I am aiming for a 720+ but just cant get to that score. Any suggestions on what i should be focusing on to get that 40 pt. jump i need?? I am planning to appear for the test end on August.

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13 Aug 2018, 02:51
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Q: Are these Mocks GMAC prep Mocks? , if not can you please clarify the source?
Q: Where you are lagging in Quant ( Q47-48) , there could be some areas in which you can improve?
Q: Have you followed any course for Verbal or you are using random sources for concept building?
Q: How you rate your self in verbal sub sections?
Q: What is your weakest area in Verbal?

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13 Aug 2018, 03:49
GMATbuster92 wrote:
Q: Are these Mocks GMAC prep Mocks? , if not can you please clarify the source?
Q: Where you are lagging in Quant ( Q47-48) , there could be some areas in which you can improve?
Q: Have you followed any course for Verbal or you are using random sources for concept building?
Q: How you rate your self in verbal sub sections?
Q: What is your weakest area in Verbal?

Thanks for the response, RC has long been a problem area for me, I have practiced quite a bit and will continue to do the same till the exam day. I have given official GMAC mocks. On an average i have 70-75% accuracy in SC and CR and 40-50%in RC.
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13 Aug 2018, 10:07
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hggmat wrote:
Hi, I have appeared for 3 mock tests and my scores are stuck between 670-690 --Q-47,48,V-36,35. I am aiming for a 720+ but just cant get to that score. Any suggestions on what i should be focusing on to get that 40 pt. jump i need?? I am planning to appear for the test end on August.

Thanks Harshal

Hi hggmat,

You should focus a bit on both Quant and Verbal. If you are particularly looking to discover and improve on your weak areas in Quant; a subscription to GMATCLUB tests is the best way to do that. They are indeed phenomenal and will not only pinpoint your weak areas but also help you improve on them.

Further taking multiple mocks might help. Apart from the GMATPREP, Manhattan GMAT tests and Veritas Prep Tests in my experience have good verbal and Quant section and will certainly help you point out and improve your weak areas.

Further another advantage of taking many mocks is to build up your stamina. Apart from the GMATPREP tests, taking practise tests of any major GMATPREP company ought to do that.

I would also encourage you to purchase the GMATPREP QP 1 for some great additional practice.

Hope this helps. All the best!
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13 Aug 2018, 13:35
Hi hggmat,

Since your Scores on these 3 practice CATs are so similar to one another, I'd like to know a bit more about how you took these CATs:

1) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
2) Did you take them at home?
3) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you plan to take your Official GMAT?
4) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
5) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

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14 Aug 2018, 01:47
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Hi hggmat,

670-690 (80-85 percentile) is a good score to build upon. It indicates good grasp over concepts and process to solve GMAT questions. From here on, you must plan to improve iteratively. You may follow the below mentioned steps to do so:
Step 1: Take a mock test/ Ability Quiz on Scholaranium
Step 2: Identify the top 2/3 weak areas and work upon them
Step 3: Take another mock test/ Ability Quiz to track improvement (You should see improvement owing to fewer mistakes in the weak areas)
Step 4: Identify the top 2/3 weak areas from this test and work upon them

Repeat this process till you reach your target score. All the best!

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14 Aug 2018, 19:12
Hi hggmat,

I’m also happy to provide some advice, but I have a few additional questions:

1) I see that you took 3 official GMAT practice exams. Can you please provide the dates on which you took those practice GMATs, the total scores, and the quant, verbal, and IR scores, as well as how you were feeling while taking the tests.

2) Please describe how you have been studying. For many hours a day and for how many months? What resources have you been using?

3) To what programs will you be applying? What are the deadlines for these programs?

4) By when would you LIKE to take the GMAT? By when MUST you take the GMAT?

5) For how many hours a day, on average, can you study between now and your next GMAT?

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15 Aug 2018, 01:42
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Hi hggmat,

Since your Scores on these 3 practice CATs are so similar to one another, I'd like to know a bit more about how you took these CATs:

1) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
2) Did you take them at home?
3) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you plan to take your Official GMAT?
4) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
5) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

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Hi Rich, Thanks for the response--

1- I did take the Quant and verbal sections in one sitting didnt properly respond on the essay and IR sections
2- Yes
3- Yes
4- I might have extended my breaks a little
5- I did come across a few repeat questions on the last 2 tests I took.
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15 Aug 2018, 01:50
[quote="ScottTargetTestPrep"]Hi hggmat,

I’m also happy to provide some advice, but I have a few additional questions:

1) I see that you took 3 official GMAT practice exams. Can you please provide the dates on which you took those practice GMATs, the total scores, and the quant, verbal, and IR scores, as well as how you were feeling while taking the tests.

2) Please describe how you have been studying. For many hours a day and for how many months? What resources have you been using?

3) To what programs will you be applying? What are the deadlines for these programs?

4) By when would you LIKE to take the GMAT? By when MUST you take the GMAT?

5) For how many hours a day, on average, can you study between now and your next GMAT?

Hi Scott, Thanks for the response--
1- Test 1--Q48 V 36, Test--2 Q47 V36, Test--3 Q47 V 35 I did not respond to the IR section properly in any of the tests, I was relaxed gave them at home.
2- I started early June have been using the OG and e-gmat course
3- Majority programs I am interested in have a deadline of Sept. 1st week
4- I would like to take it by 25th August, probably 31st August
5- I have been giving it 4-6 hrs on average can improve slightly at this time as well.

Thanks,
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15 Aug 2018, 06:42
hey hggmat

Sounds like you've hit the 'plateau'!
The 'plateau' is what we call that phase when you've done your studying and know the material but seem to have stopped improving - you just keep making the same mistakes and keep missing the same types of questions. So how do you break through this glass ceiling?

Usually, the answer isn't more fine-tuning, it is an adaptation of strategy.
For example, you say you know the concepts but don't know which to apply. This suggests that you are focused in on what we call the 'Precise' solution approach - trying to fully solve a question by applying the correct mathematical rules / equations / concepts. Oftentimes, this is the wrong way to go! If you can reach the correct answer without actually solving the question (for example, by eliminating impossible answers) then there is no need for you to be able to pick out the 'right concept'.

As another example, maybe you make 'silly' mistakes. Do you use simple numbers to verify your calculations or your logic? Making an abstract problem concrete with examples can make it much easier to avoid falling into logical traps. This is an example of what we call the 'Alternative' approach.

So: in addition to fine-tuning your current approaches (for example by working more carefully, writing clearly, reviewing errors, etc.) I suggest you consider a shift in strategy - is there a completely different way to answer questions that you've so far missed? Feel free to PM me if you'd like more info, or check out our Intro to PAL video here, which explains different strategic approaches in depth.
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15 Aug 2018, 21:44
Hi Harshal,

I've sent you a PM with some additional notes on your CAT results and some suggestions.

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Hi, I have appeared for 3 mock tests and my scores are stuck between 670-690 --Q-47,48,V-36,35. I am aiming for a 720+ but just cant get to that score. Any suggestions on what i should be focusing on to get that 40 pt. jump i need?? I am planning to appear for the test end on August.

Thanks Harshal

If you feel you are stuck, it may help to open your eyes to see how someone else thinks through GMAT questions so you can subconsciously compare your thought process with others.

At GMAT Pill, that's what we provide - a different perspective that often opens up new doors for mental approaches to the same questions you are answering.

Here are 2 examples:

http://www.gmatpill.com/sentencecorrect ... ythons.mp4

http://www.gmatpill.com/criticalreasoni ... Estate.mp4

For Verbal, we recommend solidifying your SC skills first: http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-t ... -questions

As you study OG, follow along our SC videos. Here's a sample: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1f_ckd ... H1HmTgctJI

Also - make it a habit to review your mistake right before you go to bed and again when you wake up. This increases your ability to learn from your mistakes exponentially and can do wonders to your score.
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17 Aug 2018, 19:37
Hi hggmat,

Thank you for the response.

The good news is that despite studying for only a couple of months, you scored well on your practice exams. With a sound and thorough study plan, you should be able to achieve the 40-point increase that you need to reach your score goal. That being said, it's possible that hitting your goal may take more than just one month. I realize that you want to hit round 1 deadlines, but would you be able to push for round 2, if necessary?

In any case, let’s discuss what constitutes a sound and thorough study plan. It's possible to score 680 without fully understanding some topics or refining certain skills. In order for you to score 720+, your preparation is going to have to be more complete. So, to lock in that type of score, you have to go through GMAT quant and verbal carefully to find your exact weaknesses, fill gaps in your knowledge, and strengthen your skills. The overall process will be to learn all about how to answer question types with which you currently aren't very comfortable and do dozens of practice questions category by category, basically driving up your score point by point. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better.

You can work on verbal in a similar manner. Let’s say you are reviewing Critical Reasoning. Be sure that you practice a large number of Critical Reasoning questions: strengthen and weaken the argument, resolve the paradox, find the conclusion, must be true, etc. As you go through the questions, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get correct. If you missed a weaken question, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize what the question was asking? Did you skip over a key detail in an answer choice? Getting GMAT verbal questions right is a matter of what you know, what you see, and what you do. So, any time that you don't get one right, you can seek to identify what you would have had to know in order to get the right answer, what you had to see that you didn't see, and what you could have done differently to arrive at the correct answer.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new verbal and quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant and verbal courses.

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Feel free to reach out with further questions.
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