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30 May 2022, 08:24
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Hello Everyone,
First of all, I would like to thank this wonderful community during my GMAT and b-school application journey.
I have been fortunate to have received some amazing offers. I am in some deep confusion and therefore, would like to gain some perspective from you all.
I have been enrolled at UNC Kenan-Flager Business School with a full ride. However last week I cleared the waitlist at Tepper CMU. Tepper has offered me quite a generous scholarship (60%) and I have already appealed to them for a bump -- offices are closed at present, so I am waiting to hear from them back.
Even if Tepper were to offer me a full ride (hypothetically), I am in a great dilemma to go forward with the offer because I have been fortunate enough to have received acceptance to Amazon's pre-MBA technical product management immersion program with priority consideration for the summer internship. This program requires me, an international, to be in the United States before 30th July, which is not possible through Tepper since their MBA classes start in late august (immigration restrictions). However, through UNC, I am able to be part of that Amazon program.
I want to recruit for PM/PMT roles. And, Tepper and UNC honestly seem quite close when it comes to tech recruiting -- but to be honest, Tepper is much better. I want some perspectives on whether it makes sense to decline the Amazon opportunity to go forward with Tepper, or just go with UNC + Amazon. I am quite in a predicament and would love to have some thoughts. Is Tepper better ENOUGH to decline the Amazon program..?
I would also mention that I have my visa appointment next week, which already makes joining Tepper so hard.. having to figure everything from scratch -- stuff I had been doing at UNC for over a month..... It took me two months to get the Visa appointment..... But I will figure those problems out, hassles, but I will do that..... I just want to make an informed choice and not be irrational about it. Many of my friends in the community tell me to heavily consider the Tepper (even with the 60%) no matter the Amazon program since that is not really an internship per se. However, it does statistically improve the chances to get the summer internship. So, for what it's worth, what would you guys suggest?
bb Nikhil
Thanks & Regards,
SS
First of all, I would like to thank this wonderful community during my GMAT and b-school application journey.
I have been fortunate to have received some amazing offers. I am in some deep confusion and therefore, would like to gain some perspective from you all.
I have been enrolled at UNC Kenan-Flager Business School with a full ride. However last week I cleared the waitlist at Tepper CMU. Tepper has offered me quite a generous scholarship (60%) and I have already appealed to them for a bump -- offices are closed at present, so I am waiting to hear from them back.
Even if Tepper were to offer me a full ride (hypothetically), I am in a great dilemma to go forward with the offer because I have been fortunate enough to have received acceptance to Amazon's pre-MBA technical product management immersion program with priority consideration for the summer internship. This program requires me, an international, to be in the United States before 30th July, which is not possible through Tepper since their MBA classes start in late august (immigration restrictions). However, through UNC, I am able to be part of that Amazon program.
I want to recruit for PM/PMT roles. And, Tepper and UNC honestly seem quite close when it comes to tech recruiting -- but to be honest, Tepper is much better. I want some perspectives on whether it makes sense to decline the Amazon opportunity to go forward with Tepper, or just go with UNC + Amazon. I am quite in a predicament and would love to have some thoughts. Is Tepper better ENOUGH to decline the Amazon program..?
I would also mention that I have my visa appointment next week, which already makes joining Tepper so hard.. having to figure everything from scratch -- stuff I had been doing at UNC for over a month..... It took me two months to get the Visa appointment..... But I will figure those problems out, hassles, but I will do that..... I just want to make an informed choice and not be irrational about it. Many of my friends in the community tell me to heavily consider the Tepper (even with the 60%) no matter the Amazon program since that is not really an internship per se. However, it does statistically improve the chances to get the summer internship. So, for what it's worth, what would you guys suggest?
bb Nikhil
Thanks & Regards,
SS
30 May 2022, 11:12
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Congrats on your admits!
Your hard work paid off!!!
Is the Amazon pre-mba internship tied to UNC somehow?
I saw it pop up a few months ago but was not sure how it really ties in with specific school acceptance. Will you lose it if you accept Tepper instead of UNC?
My guess is that it may not really matter. UNC and Tepper are within a similar band of opportunities and options. Tepper has a better known name outside of the US due to its host university Carnegie Melon but in terms of the MBA program, there is not enough of a difference to warrant a 40% premium. As an FYI for you - Tepper has a focus on consulting as their primary industry and tech as secondary. UNC is Finance as primary and then consulting/tech/healthcare are secondary. There is not as much of an advantage to do Tepper on a pure ROI standpoint but if the offers were equal, I would say Tepper.
P.S. About the Amazon pre-mba internship, I think it is a good opportunity. I am not sure what it is worth but if you have to pass it up, I would not do it since it is a great name to have on the resume, even if you don't end up recruiting at Amazon. It seems the program is pretty skinny with just a few days of engagement at the corporate office and very light (correct me if I am wrong) but I feel the name alone will help differentiate you from other applicants, esp if you are light on brand names on your resume. However, if you have worked for a big brand, then this may not big a strong enough driver. As usual, things are a bit more dependent on your current situation and personal resume
Your hard work paid off!!!
Is the Amazon pre-mba internship tied to UNC somehow?
I saw it pop up a few months ago but was not sure how it really ties in with specific school acceptance. Will you lose it if you accept Tepper instead of UNC?
My guess is that it may not really matter. UNC and Tepper are within a similar band of opportunities and options. Tepper has a better known name outside of the US due to its host university Carnegie Melon but in terms of the MBA program, there is not enough of a difference to warrant a 40% premium. As an FYI for you - Tepper has a focus on consulting as their primary industry and tech as secondary. UNC is Finance as primary and then consulting/tech/healthcare are secondary. There is not as much of an advantage to do Tepper on a pure ROI standpoint but if the offers were equal, I would say Tepper.
P.S. About the Amazon pre-mba internship, I think it is a good opportunity. I am not sure what it is worth but if you have to pass it up, I would not do it since it is a great name to have on the resume, even if you don't end up recruiting at Amazon. It seems the program is pretty skinny with just a few days of engagement at the corporate office and very light (correct me if I am wrong) but I feel the name alone will help differentiate you from other applicants, esp if you are light on brand names on your resume. However, if you have worked for a big brand, then this may not big a strong enough driver. As usual, things are a bit more dependent on your current situation and personal resume
30 May 2022, 12:09
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Congrats on your admits!
Your hard work paid off!!!
Is the Amazon pre-mba internship tied to UNC somehow?
I saw it pop up a few months ago but was not sure how it really ties in with specific school acceptance. Will you lose it if you accept Tepper instead of UNC?
My guess is that it may not really matter. UNC and Tepper are within a similar band of opportunities and options. Tepper has a better known name outside of the US due to its host university Carnegie Melon but in terms of the MBA program, there is not enough of a difference to warrant a 40% premium. As an FYI for you - Tepper has a focus on consulting as their primary industry and tech as secondary. UNC is Finance as primary and then consulting/tech/healthcare are secondary. There is not as much of an advantage to do Tepper on a pure ROI standpoint but if the offers were equal, I would say Tepper.
P.S. About the Amazon pre-mba internship, I think it is a good opportunity. I am not sure what it is worth but if you have to pass it up, I would not do it since it is a great name to have on the resume, even if you don't end up recruiting at Amazon. It seems the program is pretty skinny with just a few days of engagement at the corporate office and very light (correct me if I am wrong) but I feel the name alone will help differentiate you from other applicants, esp if you are light on brand names on your resume. However, if you have worked for a big brand, then this may not big a strong enough driver. As usual, things are a bit more dependent on your current situation and personal resume
Your hard work paid off!!!
Is the Amazon pre-mba internship tied to UNC somehow?
I saw it pop up a few months ago but was not sure how it really ties in with specific school acceptance. Will you lose it if you accept Tepper instead of UNC?
My guess is that it may not really matter. UNC and Tepper are within a similar band of opportunities and options. Tepper has a better known name outside of the US due to its host university Carnegie Melon but in terms of the MBA program, there is not enough of a difference to warrant a 40% premium. As an FYI for you - Tepper has a focus on consulting as their primary industry and tech as secondary. UNC is Finance as primary and then consulting/tech/healthcare are secondary. There is not as much of an advantage to do Tepper on a pure ROI standpoint but if the offers were equal, I would say Tepper.
P.S. About the Amazon pre-mba internship, I think it is a good opportunity. I am not sure what it is worth but if you have to pass it up, I would not do it since it is a great name to have on the resume, even if you don't end up recruiting at Amazon. It seems the program is pretty skinny with just a few days of engagement at the corporate office and very light (correct me if I am wrong) but I feel the name alone will help differentiate you from other applicants, esp if you are light on brand names on your resume. However, if you have worked for a big brand, then this may not big a strong enough driver. As usual, things are a bit more dependent on your current situation and personal resume
Hi bb
Thank you so much for your detailed response. I appreciate it a lot.
The Amazon program is not really tied to the University. However, considering my F1 student status, the earliest I can enter the USA is 1 month before my classes start -- which for UNC is 9th July and for Tepper is 30th July. Therefore, in order to participate in the program, I must be present in Seattle from the 20th to the 22nd of July for their in-person events. Therefore, more like logistic issues.
It is generally 2 hours of virtual events every day from 11th to 18th of July, culminating with 3 days of in-person events in their Seattle office. I am not gonna lie, this was so exciting for me -- to have interviewed with the global head of their London office.. the sheer network that can be built from this. Furthermore, Amazon folks told me that during those 2 hrs/day we'd be working on a business proposal, which will be evaluated by Senior PMs for a priority consideration of summer internship offer. From what I know from speaking to people, Amazon has low intern to FT offer conversion ratio. But even then, it is a priority consideration. So, I'd basically be cutting the line. Another point that comes to my mind is that if I were to say join Tepper, internal competition for tech might be fiercer than at UNC and I might never get such an opportunity ever again. So perhaps this cutting the line is the calling? Who knows!
I think my whole dilemma resides in the fact that I don't know the true potential of the Amazon program. 2 hours/day for 7 days -- how much can even be done, I wonder. Not sure would it validate declining, say hypothetically, a matched offer at Tepper. What if it's just some random meet & greet.. and I decline an equal offer from Tepper because of this program (I know UNC and Tepper are same tier, but as you rightly mentioned, CMU carries a lot of weight back in my home country)
As is (60% scholarship) I am not even thinking of the Tepper offer. However, as I understand, Tepper has been negotiating quite a lot with students. So, I was wondering if in an event they were to match UNC's offer would I want to miss the Amazon opportunity - I am skeptical. Yes, I don't have any big brand names on my resume. I come from an Engineering background in the ERP space, mainly working for European giants who nobody in the United States would know much about.
I am still waiting for Tepper to get back to me. I am certain they will bump it up; just not sure by how much. I have kept a target of 80% for me to start thinking about it. I think I gotta wait for Tepper to be back with their answers !
BR,
SS
