The 7 phases of B-school application : The B-School Applications

lepium · 2007-02-21T14:55:11-08:00

This thread has retired. For new discussion on MBA application phases please move here phases-of-mba-application-review-147148.html Edit by rhyme: The below is humorous, but frankly, it's very very true and it gives you an idea of what to really expect after the GMAT. For those of you applying next year (at this point 2008), you should really read through this - get an idea of whats to come. I'm attempting to summarize what most of us have gone through or will be going through in our path to B-school. I was partially motivated by several other posts within the forum (which I thank for) and partially on self experience (though the characters in this story are fictional, etc., you know the drill). School names are used as examples and by no means I intend to mock any organization or person, this is just an attempt at summarizing, in a humorous way, this rocky personal journey. i.Introduction Let's say you are 2 or 3 years out of college and the thought of an MBA starts lingering in your mind. Either you've heard some stories of former colleagues going for it and are curious about it or you think the name sounds cool. You can talk to MBA alumni (if you have access to them) to start your research, or maybe to some friends. But this initial conversations can be biased (name 1 alumni who "officially" thinks his/her school sucked and you'll get a bonus!) for all you know. So you decide you need some "objective data" to continue your research and you go pick up the latest issue of US news/ B-week, or whichever one is available at newsstands. You browse through their pages and start wondering: 1st phase (the MBA honeymoon): - Wait, wasn't Kellogg a cereal brand? - What's with the GMAT scores? why 700? over 1000? that's weird. What's GMAT btw? - Ah, finally, I know Yale, I know Harvard, I know Stanford, MIT and UCLA. But where's Princeton? And Brown? - I like International Business, so as per these rankings I should better be attending Thunderbird. But why are the starting salaries from there so much lower than from other schools? - I loved Miami when I visited on spring break. Lemme see what their school's like. 2nd phase (Delussional optimism): - I'm a wise person, so GMAT shouldn't be a problem for me. Maybe I'll take one of these intensive 1-week courses and go for it! Why would anybody spend months studying? That doesn't make any sense. I mean it's high school level math and English for crying out loud. Heck, I can speak English, I've taken Calculus classes. - I'm a clear admit at HBS, plus I'll get a full scholarship. After all I'll get a top GMAT, I do speak four languages and have made steady progress at work so far. 3rd phase (Depression while taming the beast): - GMAT sucks. My friends no longer talk to me. My girlfriend broke up with me and spending 150k for an MBA doesn't make much sense to me anymore (nor does it make sense to my family, my former friends nor my girlfriend). Do I really, really want to do this? Otherwise I could go back to having a life right now. - Ok, so I'm headed for a 600 score, if I'm lucky. Let's see what that would do for me. Hmm, I'd better score at least 650. Wait, 650 ain't that bad! Oh boy, I'd kill for a 650. - "So Johnny (an acquaintance of yours), how did your GMAT go?" Johnny: "Oh man, I'm so depressed. I bombed my 7th attempt. I just can't get past 550. I'm about giving up" You: "Crap, Johnny, after all the effort you've put into this, I can't believe what you are telling me. I mean, I'm still a zillion hours away from your study record to date. By the way, I'll better be heading home and attack those SCs again!" - (at 4am in the morning on a working day): I suck, I suck, I suck! I can't believe the silly mistakes I'm making. Sigh, I wish I'd remember more about Statistics... 4th phase (post GMAT preliminary research) - Ok, so I got a pretty decent GMAT. Now let me write sth and send my app right away so we can finally bring this "I'll pretend I read your app." game to an end. Let's check the instructions. 1st question) What matters most to you an why? Hmm. Maybe I'll leave this one for tomorrow. Or let me brainstorm and write a shortlist: 1st shortlist (prior to any research): a) Money. b) Success. c) Beer. d) Getting my ticket stamped to land an IB job. 2nd shortlist (after some research): a) Being mother Theresa. b) Saving humanity. c) Saving the environment. d) "Changing the world". - I'll apply to 147 schools. That way, I'd maximize my chances of getting a scholarship. - What's with the letter of recommendation? Should I tell my boss about my plans? It looks like the point of no return to me. 5th phase (applying, AKA the emotional roller-coaster) : This sucks! I can't believe how boring I sound. I should re-start from scratch! - I should write about the snooker tournament I won when I was 16. That'd be original, plus I can spin it to show how I used my leadership, analytical and teamwork skills. - Beh, I can apply in Round 2 as well. - Crap! my recommenders haven't even accessed the website yet and it's only 2 days left! I'll send them "friendly reminder #27". No, wait, I sent #26 just 5 minutes ago. Maybe I'll wait another half hour. - Wait, was Kellogg's deadline on the 5th? Or was that MIT? Maybe I should drop Wharton. I can't make deadlines on the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 7th. OK, I'll just drop Wharton from my list and have it as "fresh" backup for next year just in case. - I wish I had applied to more schools in Round 1. Look at all these people getting interviews and admits! 6th phase (post application blues) - Shoot, I won't get in anywhere. I mean look at the profiles of applicants! I should retake GMAT. My 700 is not enough. I should aim for 790+. - Crap! Yale dinged me without interview! Ohmigod! If they did it, ANYONE can do it! THEY COULD ALL DO IT! - I have an idea! I'll check which schools have rolling admissions and apply to those. I still have time! - Suddenly University of Phoenix Online doesn't sound that bad. - Why? Why? Why didn't apply to more backups? Why did I have to shake my interviewer's hand so firmly? Why didn't I coach my recommenders more thoroughly? I wonder what they've written. Probably nothing good. I wish I had submitted my app. a day earlier, that way I would have looked as a well organized person. I read that Kellogg dings all applicants above 28 years old who haven't made directors positions. Wait, is that a typo on my MIT essays? That's one school less, buddy. I'm soo doomed. 7th phase (endless joy) - Hell yeah! I've made it! I've been admitted next year! I rule! I can't wait to get recruited by . When is admitted students weekend? - 2nd admit! I rule! - Should I go to with a 7k scholarship or to with a 25 k scholarship? - Work? What's work? Ah, right, that thing I'm supposed to be doing daily on weekdays from 9 to 5... - I wonder whether spending this 150k makes sense after all... - I'm so gonna get grilled at B-school! What if I mess up? I'd better start brushing up on some skills. Hope you enjoy, and feel free to propose edits or add-ons. After all, we're all together in this journey! Cheers. L.

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- I have an idea! I'll check which schools have rolling admissions and apply to those. I still have time!

i just saw this for the first time and laughed out loud! this particular line happened to me *yesterday*!!! my friend told me to just chill out and massaged my ego about how i'll get in. and if i don't then i can apply when i get a ding. :lol:

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I went through phase 1 -5, now I am back at 1 :-(

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Partner??? What happened to boyfriend? Does everything have to be in Cambridge speak?

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Partner??? What happened to boyfriend? Does everything have to be in Cambridge speak?

Boyfriends are the boys I made out with my mom's car in high school. At this point in my life, I feel a bit beyond that designation. However, I find "the guy that I have committed my life and finances to but to whom I am not married because we both have serious doubts about the institution itself and are too lazy to bother anyway" is just too wordy.

If anyone has any recommendations, I am happy to take them under consideration.

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Nicely put.

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Partner??? What happened to boyfriend? Does everything have to be in Cambridge speak?

Boyfriends are the boys I made out with my mom's car in high school. At this point in my life, I feel a bit beyond that designation. However, I find "the guy that I have committed my life and finances to but to whom I am not married because we both have serious doubts about the institution itself and are too lazy to bother anyway" is just too wordy.

If anyone has any recommendations, I am happy to take them under consideration.

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I went through phase 1 -5, now I am back at 1 :-(

Sorry to hear that, futuredukemba. But keep at it - you're definitely going to be ahead of the curve for next year. And if this group can help, don't be afraid to post. God knows we're bored as all get out right now anyway.

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Partner??? What happened to boyfriend? Does everything have to be in Cambridge speak?

Boyfriends are the boys I made out with my mom's car in high school. At this point in my life, I feel a bit beyond that designation. However, I find "the guy that I have committed my life and finances to but to whom I am not married because we both have serious doubts about the institution itself and are too lazy to bother anyway" is just too wordy.

If anyone has any recommendations, I am happy to take them under consideration.

Slave?

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Partner??? What happened to boyfriend? Does everything have to be in Cambridge speak?

Boyfriends are the boys I made out with my mom's car in high school. At this point in my life, I feel a bit beyond that designation. However, I find "the guy that I have committed my life and finances to but to whom I am not married because we both have serious doubts about the institution itself and are too lazy to bother anyway" is just too wordy.

If anyone has any recommendations, I am happy to take them under consideration.

Just fly to Vegas, hire Elvis and get it done. It will be easier that way.
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I feel like partner is reserved for the gay community. Granted I have a buddy whose girlfriend qualifies in Mass as a "domestic partner" and gets health benefits and money from his company because they can not very well give to one orientation and not the other... But still, I feel like the gay community is entitled to the "partner" termnology at this point. My brother is my brother... not my hombre. Add to that I feel sorry for the guy that he does not get to make out with you in your mom's car... After all you did say you were hot.

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Add to that why not marriage... lower marginal tax rates.

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I feel like partner is reserved for the gay community. Granted I have a buddy whose girlfriend qualifies in Mass as a "domestic partner" and gets health benefits and money from his company because they can not very well give to one orientation and not the other... But still, I feel like the gay community is entitled to the "partner" termnology at this point. My brother is my brother... not my hombre. Add to that I feel sorry for the guy that he does not get to make out with you in your mom's car... After all you did say you were hot.

C'mon! Why do we straight guys surrender nice things to gays :butt

that easily? I mean like rainbow,
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trendy clothes and now the word "partner"?
Ain't that too much? :lol:

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Add to that why not marriage... lower marginal tax rates.

It depends. The tax rate tables aren't completley in line. Every year I do our taxes both ways just for sh!its and giggles - each year, we're better of single. Many younger couples without children are better off being unmarried or even filing separately.

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I have an addition to phase 3. I'm taking the GMAT in 2 days and I've pretty much gotten to the point where I don't particularly give a f**k what my score is anymore because I'm so sick of studying and stressing out. I'm to the point where I just want it to be OVER!

Ok, maybe it's just me...

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Its like I typed Phase 3 myself :shock:

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I have an addition to phase 3. I'm taking the GMAT in 2 days and I've pretty much gotten to the point where I don't particularly give a f**k what my score is anymore because I'm so sick of studying and stressing out. I'm to the point where I just want it to be OVER!

Ok, maybe it's just me...

Heh, just wait till you get to the part where your applications are in and you have nothing to do but sit and stress out every time your blackberry buzzes or that god awful period (esp Kellogg) where your phone might ring.

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All you R1 applicants... we are officially in Phase 5 now... *only* 2 more phases to go!

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I think they should add in a PMS phase somewhere - I am getting cranky and develop the urge to eat chocolate and pudding at 3 am at night.

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